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xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
December 17 2014 19:11 GMT
#16581
So how do you guys discern info and stuff from pro games? I think I've got a rubric for it in my head, but I'm also Silver Elite and don't know what I'm actually talking about.

Stuff I have would be:
general knowledge ala smokes, pop flashes, boost spots, angles for throwing mollys like on Inferno, tactics and strategies (which, I'm not quite sure how those differ in CSGO)
T-side stuff such as 5-man tactics for taking sites and whatnot (some of these have been pretty amazing with double faints
CTside stuff such as discerning which side they're committing to, proper rotation
individual stuff like how to lurk, KDA, clutch, entry fragging, reaction time ala Hiko

And while we're here, who would you guys say are top players and for what reasons? I mean, some of them are really obvious like Hiko, Swag, Maikelele, and the entirety of fnatic, but how do you look at Get_Right and say he's amazing?
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
December 17 2014 19:20 GMT
#16582
If you're silver and want to improve, focus on your settings, your movement and on clicking on heads Don't think about tactics too much, just about your general placement and rotations.
Now if you just enjoy more the tactical side, you can take notes on everything you talked about, but you probably won't be able to use it effectively in matchmaking, at low level, and with questionable aim.
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
December 17 2014 19:31 GMT
#16583
On December 18 2014 04:11 xxsaznpride wrote:
So how do you guys discern info and stuff from pro games? I think I've got a rubric for it in my head, but I'm also Silver Elite and don't know what I'm actually talking about.

Stuff I have would be:
general knowledge ala smokes, pop flashes, boost spots, angles for throwing mollys like on Inferno, tactics and strategies (which, I'm not quite sure how those differ in CSGO)
T-side stuff such as 5-man tactics for taking sites and whatnot (some of these have been pretty amazing with double faints
CTside stuff such as discerning which side they're committing to, proper rotation
individual stuff like how to lurk, KDA, clutch, entry fragging, reaction time ala Hiko

And while we're here, who would you guys say are top players and for what reasons? I mean, some of them are really obvious like Hiko, Swag, Maikelele, and the entirety of fnatic, but how do you look at Get_Right and say he's amazing?


I like to watch 1.6 pov demos on youtube of players like get_right. Watching 1.6 demos helps a lot even for csgo as far as general cs knowledge is concerned because a lot of the visual clutter is missing. You can see the 'science' behind his movement/crosshair positioning much more easily.

kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
December 17 2014 19:35 GMT
#16584
On December 18 2014 04:11 xxsaznpride wrote:
And while we're here, who would you guys say are top players and for what reasons? I mean, some of them are really obvious like Hiko, Swag, Maikelele, and the entirety of fnatic, but how do you look at Get_Right and say he's amazing?

Get_Right is amazing because he does the same "sneaky" shit almost every round, but he keeps pulling it off with amazing timing. As CT on overpass he does the same every single time when the Ts hit A, but it almost always works!

I don´t quite understand how Hiko fits in with the top of the crop, but I guess thats all opinion.
"NO" -Has
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
December 17 2014 19:44 GMT
#16585
You cannot truly appreciate how amazing a player is until you play enough to realize how difficult or ingenious what they do actually is. So just keep playing, and you'll eventually notice the tidbits that makes certain players stand out.

As for Hiko, he's been off the past few LANs, but he has shown before that he can perform against the best. Whether or not that Hiko shows up again on international LANs remains to be seen, but iBP probably gives him a better shot than the current C9.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
December 17 2014 20:38 GMT
#16586
On December 18 2014 02:22 Censured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 21:48 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Made another de_train smoke video. This one shows two smokes that split A from T spawn to make a bombsite rush much easier.





I wish there was a better way (that doesn't rely on your view model) for throwing that second smoke but it's surprisingly tricky to get right and I haven't found an easier alignment so far.

Easier second smoke? (from same position... maybe a little different, but works for me)
[image loading]

One more thing... When you throw the first smoke, its better to start aiming from left side of the right chimney (instead center of that chimney). That way, it fully smokes everyone holding this position
[image loading]
But thanks for those smokes, if you throw them both, A site is super easy to take


Your second point I agree with. Actually noticed this after I had made the video as well haha. Definitely take the left side of the right chimney for perfect smoke placement! Good catch!

Your first point I'm not so keen on. I tried that when researching for the video and my issue is that it's EXTREMELY hard to get right. You have to be super pixel perfect with your two-dimensional alignment and 9 out of 10 smokes that I tried to line up this way were a tiny pixel off. They still land in an 'okay' position but from T perspective, there is a little gap to the left. CTs playing Ivy Alley can use this gap to pick you off pretty well:


[image loading]
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
December 17 2014 20:42 GMT
#16587
On December 18 2014 04:11 xxsaznpride wrote:
So how do you guys discern info and stuff from pro games? I think I've got a rubric for it in my head, but I'm also Silver Elite and don't know what I'm actually talking about.

Stuff I have would be:
general knowledge ala smokes, pop flashes, boost spots, angles for throwing mollys like on Inferno, tactics and strategies (which, I'm not quite sure how those differ in CSGO)
T-side stuff such as 5-man tactics for taking sites and whatnot (some of these have been pretty amazing with double faints
CTside stuff such as discerning which side they're committing to, proper rotation
individual stuff like how to lurk, KDA, clutch, entry fragging, reaction time ala Hiko

And while we're here, who would you guys say are top players and for what reasons? I mean, some of them are really obvious like Hiko, Swag, Maikelele, and the entirety of fnatic, but how do you look at Get_Right and say he's amazing?


get_right is amazing because of the numbers he puts up in high level matches and the fact that everyone knows he's a lurker and where and how he lurks and yet still have trouble vs him. Also as someone said, hiko definitely does not belong in a category with swag, fnatic and get right...

RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 20:46:19
December 17 2014 20:45 GMT
#16588
I don't know how outdated this statistic is, but I remember there being one where if two pros were in a 2v1 against get_right, he had a higher probability of winning than the two did
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 17 2014 21:50 GMT
#16589
It was something like, he had the highest clutch rate compared to other players. So he was very successful in 1vX situations.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 18 2014 01:49 GMT
#16590
My smoke for train:

Stand here in line with line on the tiles.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Aim here at top of A sign and between A sign and the line on wall.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Then you jump smoke it and the result is really good.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


Ivy smoked off completely and just a very tiny gap on right if you crouch and look under corner of smoke.
Best part is I can do it 99% very consistent.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
December 18 2014 15:47 GMT
#16591
ok. halp halp halp.
i have this huge problem in/with cs go. I can rarely hit hs. By that i mean i constantly have to aim ABOVE people's heads in order to hs them. I don't know if any of you have that problem but it's really frustrating to constantly have to raise your aim in the heat of the battle just so that i could hit them properly.

this happens everytime, even if enemy and me are standing still (tried it out in one of the practice maps), so i'm baffled why is it happening.

Anyone have a clue/suggestion/solution?

btw, this is my crosshair http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357937495
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 16:06:00
December 18 2014 16:02 GMT
#16592
Damn Faceit is weird. I had never tried it, but after 2 4V5 canceled games, I got a match, 0 mates used mic, they all seem around DMG+, one seemed to aim lock (weirdest flick while flashed), and the opponents were hitting AWP shots while being invisible but still sucking balls enough to get 16-2'd.. The hell just happened >.<
Kotreb, your link is broken, and your issue sounds really really weird.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 16:46:49
December 18 2014 16:46 GMT
#16593
Are any of you guys big into trading/the marketplace?

I got a Karambit Slaughter MW, and I'm trying to work out how much it's worth, but have no idea how to judge the patterns :p
+ Show Spoiler +

PS
http://i.imgur.com/JUojxEN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7K3vCXg.jpg

BS
http://i.imgur.com/260wvGQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ztkfkJo.jpg


Also is trading the item for keys, then selling the keys with paypal the standard way of monetising items? Or is there some faster way~
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
December 18 2014 18:09 GMT
#16594
On December 19 2014 00:47 Kotreb wrote:
ok. halp halp halp.
i have this huge problem in/with cs go. I can rarely hit hs. By that i mean i constantly have to aim ABOVE people's heads in order to hs them. I don't know if any of you have that problem but it's really frustrating to constantly have to raise your aim in the heat of the battle just so that i could hit them properly.

this happens everytime, even if enemy and me are standing still (tried it out in one of the practice maps), so i'm baffled why is it happening.

Anyone have a clue/suggestion/solution?

btw, this is my crosshair http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357937495


That sounds weird as fuck, could it be something like your crosshair not being centered? Do you use a funky resolution or anything that could mess with it?

I dunno, it seems weird. :D
Useless wet fish.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
December 18 2014 19:05 GMT
#16595
On December 19 2014 03:09 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 00:47 Kotreb wrote:
ok. halp halp halp.
i have this huge problem in/with cs go. I can rarely hit hs. By that i mean i constantly have to aim ABOVE people's heads in order to hs them. I don't know if any of you have that problem but it's really frustrating to constantly have to raise your aim in the heat of the battle just so that i could hit them properly.

this happens everytime, even if enemy and me are standing still (tried it out in one of the practice maps), so i'm baffled why is it happening.

Anyone have a clue/suggestion/solution?

btw, this is my crosshair http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357937495


That sounds weird as fuck, could it be something like your crosshair not being centered? Do you use a funky resolution or anything that could mess with it?

I dunno, it seems weird. :D

Idk how could it not be centred :S

I use max resolution and it's the only thing that came to my mind, but i guess the resolution shouldn't be the problem XD
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 19:09:45
December 18 2014 19:09 GMT
#16596
Can you take a screenshot maybe? I'd really like to see what it looks like :p

Turn on sv_showimpacts as well please!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 19:12:54
December 18 2014 19:12 GMT
#16597
Well, what else could be doing it O.O Why would CSGO make your bullets fire above your crosshair if its in the right place?! XD

You break your game all the time lmfao, do you still get that file issue? :D
Useless wet fish.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 18 2014 21:23 GMT
#16598
can someone tell mlg to fuck off with their anti-adblock thingy? turned it off like 4 times, still just randomly cutting off the stream
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
December 18 2014 21:30 GMT
#16599
On December 19 2014 06:23 Aocowns wrote:
can someone tell mlg to fuck off with their anti-adblock thingy? turned it off like 4 times, still just randomly cutting off the stream


Nah man if people are willing to get special software that blocks the only thing that generates revenue from viewers for content creators they have every right to block users from using that software in return. Sucks for you though. Tit for tat.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 21:35:37
December 18 2014 21:35 GMT
#16600
On December 19 2014 04:05 Kotreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 03:09 Capped wrote:
On December 19 2014 00:47 Kotreb wrote:
ok. halp halp halp.
i have this huge problem in/with cs go. I can rarely hit hs. By that i mean i constantly have to aim ABOVE people's heads in order to hs them. I don't know if any of you have that problem but it's really frustrating to constantly have to raise your aim in the heat of the battle just so that i could hit them properly.

this happens everytime, even if enemy and me are standing still (tried it out in one of the practice maps), so i'm baffled why is it happening.

Anyone have a clue/suggestion/solution?

btw, this is my crosshair http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357937495


That sounds weird as fuck, could it be something like your crosshair not being centered? Do you use a funky resolution or anything that could mess with it?

I dunno, it seems weird. :D

Idk how could it not be centred :S

I use max resolution and it's the only thing that came to my mind, but i guess the resolution shouldn't be the problem XD

Is the HUD otherwise looking like it should? Everything strictly on the egdes?

There's a bug where the game draws me something like 640x480 HUD on top left while I'm playing on big 16 : 9. Maybe if it draws you a 16 : 9 HUD on a 16:10 screen or something weird like that.
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