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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
October 05 2014 09:18 GMT
#12501
Nathanias playing with Destiny, pretty gud haha
Also gotta love that feel when you get shittalked by a 5 man premade, lose the game but have as many frags as they do, got a knife kill, and aced their ass 3V5, and have them not talk back to you at the end :')
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:01:06
October 05 2014 10:00 GMT
#12502
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.
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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
October 05 2014 10:38 GMT
#12503
Oh goodness, the chance knife kill and "pre firing that shot every game" had me rolling.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
October 05 2014 10:52 GMT
#12504
Souma... link your winnings plx
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
PF1057
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany12 Posts
October 05 2014 11:53 GMT
#12505
My first impression of this game was "a CS for consoles"... But few months ago I actually tried was really impressed.

I love how this game takes aspects of the original and integrates it into a new engine. Playing this gave me the same feeling as with 1.6 in former times, but with a better weapon design (not as much useless pistols, etc.)

Seeing such a development on a mayor title like this got me really excited! I really hope to see similar developments in other genres (RTS! :D ). The "restrictions" of old engines sometimes turn out to be a very positive thing (years later). Some indie-titles like Legend Of Grimrock proof that I am not the only one feeling this, and now there is a Counter Strike at least partially following this idea. Gives me hope.
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 12:24:48
October 05 2014 12:07 GMT
#12506
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.




Then there's all these scenes that look like complete magic to noobs...
- his teammates called the enemy's position.
- enemies made a lot of noise while running through smoke (and thus get shot...)
- ...

That kind of stuff is normal and will drive noobs crazy. I understand that, but it's not cheating.





On top of that, Fodder is a regular streamer who points a camera at his monitor.
ON TOP OF THAT, he's obviously a good player on Global Elite level, with or without cheats. That's quite easy to tell by the way he controls his mouse, moves around the map, the way he aims, etc etc. .... If you can't see that, you're in no position of judging this person.





I'm not saying he definitely doesn't cheat, but this video seems rather poor and wouldn't be sufficient proof for me to ban him. I find all you guy's reactions much more concerning.





PS: I only got to know Fodder today. So don't call me a fanboy. And try to restrain from calling me a troll either, thanks.
PPS: I got banned from ESL for cheating in 2009 or so, but I didnt cheat. So I know how this feels
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
October 05 2014 12:51 GMT
#12507
The climb continues into DMG! :D I'm so happy, feels just like being promoted to masters in SC2 did
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 13:41:54
October 05 2014 13:40 GMT
#12508
On October 05 2014 20:53 PF1057 wrote:
My first impression of this game was "a CS for consoles"... But few months ago I actually tried was really impressed.

I love how this game takes aspects of the original and integrates it into a new engine. Playing this gave me the same feeling as with 1.6 in former times, but with a better weapon design (not as much useless pistols, etc.)

Seeing such a development on a mayor title like this got me really excited! I really hope to see similar developments in other genres (RTS! :D ). The "restrictions" of old engines sometimes turn out to be a very positive thing (years later). Some indie-titles like Legend Of Grimrock proof that I am not the only one feeling this, and now there is a Counter Strike at least partially following this idea. Gives me hope.


Pointing at you BW. But Dustin doesn't seem to get this.

@Beg: How do you know he is a regular streamer that puts his camera on his screen when you only got to know him today?

Anyways: The plays he makes are mostly not concerning when you see them alone. Everyone lucks out a kill through a smoke at one point. But there are all this godlike moments that you don't even see that often in pro plays in just one game. In addition to that, some things are just ridiculous. "His team mate called the position." Yeah and a split second later he perfectly head shots him thorugh the smoke. Not just one time. "I know I legged him so I went for the knife". That's completly stupid. He couldn't have known and even if, going for that move is borderline retarded if you can't see a thing.

//I'm all against calling everyone a hacker. Most of the time people absolutely over-react over their own inability or some luck shots. But I'm also against leting obvious asshole cheaters slip through.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 05 2014 13:45 GMT
#12509
What are these restrictions you speak of? (in counterstrike obviously)
I have no idea about shooters, would be nice if someone would educate me a bit :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 13:58:58
October 05 2014 13:58 GMT
#12510
Restrictions regarding graphic engines and physics. Those restrictions were often times peeked and stretched as far as possible (by players and devs) which lead to unexpected behaviors and movements (e.g. duckjump, bunny hop) and eventually evolved to an augmented product feature over the time.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
October 05 2014 14:22 GMT
#12511
Dude defending fodder lol, just lol.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 05 2014 14:32 GMT
#12512
On October 05 2014 21:07 beg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.




Then there's all these scenes that look like complete magic to noobs...
- his teammates called the enemy's position.
- enemies made a lot of noise while running through smoke (and thus get shot...)
- ...

That kind of stuff is normal and will drive noobs crazy. I understand that, but it's not cheating.





On top of that, Fodder is a regular streamer who points a camera at his monitor.
ON TOP OF THAT, he's obviously a good player on Global Elite level, with or without cheats. That's quite easy to tell by the way he controls his mouse, moves around the map, the way he aims, etc etc. .... If you can't see that, you're in no position of judging this person.





I'm not saying he definitely doesn't cheat, but this video seems rather poor and wouldn't be sufficient proof for me to ban him. I find all you guy's reactions much more concerning.





PS: I only got to know Fodder today. So don't call me a fanboy. And try to restrain from calling me a troll either, thanks.
PPS: I got banned from ESL for cheating in 2009 or so, but I didnt cheat. So I know how this feels


I assume you'll rationalize that this is also legit

E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
October 05 2014 14:38 GMT
#12513
On October 05 2014 21:07 beg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.

...

Hey, Fodder. Didn't know you were on TL.
PF1057
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany12 Posts
October 05 2014 14:42 GMT
#12514
On October 05 2014 22:58 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Restrictions regarding graphic engines and physics. Those restrictions were often times peeked and stretched as far as possible (by players and devs) which lead to unexpected behaviors and movements (e.g. duckjump, bunny hop) and eventually evolved to an augmented product feature over the time.


Good way to describe the point. "lead to unexpected behaviors and movements"
It's hard to emulate an abstract concept like the "feeling" of an old engine with a new one. CS:GO was the first game I played in which I instantly had the feeling that this new engine is similar to the old one.
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
October 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#12515
considering fodder has been banned multiple times in the past and has had his cheating reputation for like 8 years now from already back in 1.6 times i wouldn't give him the benefit of a doubt
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 05 2014 17:57 GMT
#12516
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 05 2014 21:07 beg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.




Then there's all these scenes that look like complete magic to noobs...
- his teammates called the enemy's position.
- enemies made a lot of noise while running through smoke (and thus get shot...)
- ...

That kind of stuff is normal and will drive noobs crazy. I understand that, but it's not cheating.





On top of that, Fodder is a regular streamer who points a camera at his monitor.
ON TOP OF THAT, he's obviously a good player on Global Elite level, with or without cheats. That's quite easy to tell by the way he controls his mouse, moves around the map, the way he aims, etc etc. .... If you can't see that, you're in no position of judging this person.





I'm not saying he definitely doesn't cheat, but this video seems rather poor and wouldn't be sufficient proof for me to ban him. I find all you guy's reactions much more concerning.





PS: I only got to know Fodder today. So don't call me a fanboy. And try to restrain from calling me a troll either, thanks.
PPS: I got banned from ESL for cheating in 2009 or so, but I didnt cheat. So I know how this feels



yo fodder, please stay out of my csgo, thank you
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 18:42:09
October 05 2014 18:41 GMT
#12517
On October 05 2014 21:07 beg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.




Then there's all these scenes that look like complete magic to noobs...
- his teammates called the enemy's position.
- enemies made a lot of noise while running through smoke (and thus get shot...)
- ...

That kind of stuff is normal and will drive noobs crazy. I understand that, but it's not cheating.





On top of that, Fodder is a regular streamer who points a camera at his monitor.
ON TOP OF THAT, he's obviously a good player on Global Elite level, with or without cheats. That's quite easy to tell by the way he controls his mouse, moves around the map, the way he aims, etc etc. .... If you can't see that, you're in no position of judging this person.





I'm not saying he definitely doesn't cheat, but this video seems rather poor and wouldn't be sufficient proof for me to ban him. I find all you guy's reactions much more concerning.





PS: I only got to know Fodder today. So don't call me a fanboy. And try to restrain from calling me a troll either, thanks.
PPS: I got banned from ESL for cheating in 2009 or so, but I didnt cheat. So I know how this feels

k
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 05 2014 18:45 GMT
#12518
Lolololol how can he actually watch that and pretend he didnt hack.

Even moreso how can some guy on TL claim he isn't hacking

What the shit, some people!
Useless wet fish.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
October 05 2014 18:55 GMT
#12519
On October 05 2014 22:40 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 20:53 PF1057 wrote:
My first impression of this game was "a CS for consoles"... But few months ago I actually tried was really impressed.

I love how this game takes aspects of the original and integrates it into a new engine. Playing this gave me the same feeling as with 1.6 in former times, but with a better weapon design (not as much useless pistols, etc.)

Seeing such a development on a mayor title like this got me really excited! I really hope to see similar developments in other genres (RTS! :D ). The "restrictions" of old engines sometimes turn out to be a very positive thing (years later). Some indie-titles like Legend Of Grimrock proof that I am not the only one feeling this, and now there is a Counter Strike at least partially following this idea. Gives me hope.


"I know I legged him so I went for the knife".

I'm going to totally try this the next time I play d2. :D
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
October 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#12520
On October 05 2014 23:32 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 21:07 beg wrote:
On October 05 2014 19:00 TheEmulator wrote:
Man, that was the most blatant cheating I have ever seen.

Like those awp shots on Cat. "I heard them running".

To be fair, some of those shots are possible, but only if it happens 1-2 times a round. He made like 20 godlike lucky shots.

The video of Fodder is not convincing proof whatsoever. There's not a single scene that clearly catches him cheating. Even the part where the video says "Aim without Aiming", Fodder did see the CT before he started to aim.

His reactions look godlike only due to the fact that the demo is from Overwatch's POV (I believe), which is a technical issue. (GoTV makes reactions look really sick too)

MOST OF THE SCENES ARE NOTHING BUT NORMAL AWP SHOTS.




Then there's all these scenes that look like complete magic to noobs...
- his teammates called the enemy's position.
- enemies made a lot of noise while running through smoke (and thus get shot...)
- ...

That kind of stuff is normal and will drive noobs crazy. I understand that, but it's not cheating.





On top of that, Fodder is a regular streamer who points a camera at his monitor.
ON TOP OF THAT, he's obviously a good player on Global Elite level, with or without cheats. That's quite easy to tell by the way he controls his mouse, moves around the map, the way he aims, etc etc. .... If you can't see that, you're in no position of judging this person.





I'm not saying he definitely doesn't cheat, but this video seems rather poor and wouldn't be sufficient proof for me to ban him. I find all you guy's reactions much more concerning.





PS: I only got to know Fodder today. So don't call me a fanboy. And try to restrain from calling me a troll either, thanks.
PPS: I got banned from ESL for cheating in 2009 or so, but I didnt cheat. So I know how this feels


I assume you'll rationalize that this is also legit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUHpHIHpv4


This one didn't strike me, I can do one or two of those at DMG level, so 4 doesn't seem impossible to do at all taken alone. The smoke one though "LOL" in a single match that's just bullshit-impossible.
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