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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 13 2011 23:22 GMT
#541
Lol @ admitting they lowered the skill ceiling for CSS

@ CS:GO using the CSS deagle.
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jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
October 13 2011 23:24 GMT
#542
man it looks just like CSS to me, maybe I'm blind or something
aka Sowelulol
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:38:31
October 13 2011 23:25 GMT
#543
On October 14 2011 08:22 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
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On October 14 2011 08:18 garlicface wrote:
I don't follow CS, but holy shit this Volcano guy is making some sick shots. Is he one of the better players in the scene?

I don't know, I think he's just an average american pro. It's hard to see because source is much more forgiving when it comes to precision.

He was a top American CS pro in 1.6 (world class), and then one in CSS (except only Americans played CSS seriously) as well. His time in CSS is probably what's helping him the most, over modern players like cArn and n0thing who are probably much better than he is at 1.6. They said it's the CSS deagle, which is mostly what he's using.

Some interesting points: saw Volcano hs someone through a tanker on train. They said wall shooting will be between 1.6 and CSS.

Even though the Valve dev said the ak/m4 were the same (supposedly from CSS), there were a couple of headshots that looked like a 1.6 spray pattern.
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PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:39:55
October 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#544
I've read some feedback from the 1.6 community after the stream and it seems as if the great majority dislikes cs:go.
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MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
October 13 2011 23:35 GMT
#545
My boy Sam was destroying everyone!
Anyways, this game looks like CS:S but the feel is unlike CS:S or 1.6. The 1.6 players clearly didn't understand how to control recoil, as all of them were just spraying and praying, however the CS:S players were doing fine.
All these fanboys need to realize that CS 1.6 is 13 years old, and CS:S is 7. It's time to grow up and accept a new fucking game.

MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 13 2011 23:35 GMT
#546
On October 14 2011 08:25 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:22 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:18 garlicface wrote:
I don't follow CS, but holy shit this Volcano guy is making some sick shots. Is he one of the better players in the scene?

I don't know, I think he's just an average american pro. It's hard to see because source is much more forgiving when it comes to precision.

He was a top American CS pro in 1.6 (world class), and then one in CSS (except only Americans played CSS seriously) as well. His time in CSS is probably what's helping him the most, over modern players like cArn and n0thing who are probably much better than he is at 1.6. They said it's the CSS deagle, which is mostly what he's using.


What team is he on now?
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 13 2011 23:36 GMT
#547
The more they show this game, the more it looks like CSS and the higher tiered competitive scene will ignore it.
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
October 13 2011 23:37 GMT
#548
On October 14 2011 08:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:25 Jibba wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:22 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:18 garlicface wrote:
I don't follow CS, but holy shit this Volcano guy is making some sick shots. Is he one of the better players in the scene?

I don't know, I think he's just an average american pro. It's hard to see because source is much more forgiving when it comes to precision.

He was a top American CS pro in 1.6 (world class), and then one in CSS (except only Americans played CSS seriously) as well. His time in CSS is probably what's helping him the most, over modern players like cArn and n0thing who are probably much better than he is at 1.6. They said it's the CSS deagle, which is mostly what he's using.


What team is he on now?


He's retired basically. He's a backup player on Team Dynamic, however he doesn't ever play. He's a map maker for ESEA, and he's also married/dating Sapphire, one of CS's most dedicated supporters.
He played for Team 3D back in the day of source though.
MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Pisko.
Profile Joined August 2011
United States214 Posts
October 13 2011 23:38 GMT
#549
Not feeling the game right now, but it's alpha so I still have a lot of hope.
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MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
October 13 2011 23:38 GMT
#550
On October 14 2011 08:36 Shelke14 wrote:
The more they show this game, the more it looks like CSS and the higher tiered competitive scene will ignore it.


The only thing that will be ignored is your opinion. In 2007, all pro 1.6 players switched to source because the CGS was paying players $50,000 a year. Of course when the CGS died, they switched back. Valve proved they are supporting eSports by hosting a $1,000,000 DOTA2 tournament. There will be more money in CS:GO as an eSport than both CS:S and CS 1.6 combined. Any pro player of either game will switch over.
MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:40:43
October 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#551
On October 14 2011 08:35 MattO1337 wrote:
My boy Sam was destroying everyone!
Anyways, this game looks like CS:S but the feel is unlike CS:S or 1.6. The 1.6 players clearly didn't understand how to control recoil, as all of them were just spraying and praying, however the CS:S players were doing fine.
All these fanboys need to realize that CS 1.6 is 13 years old, and CS:S is 7. It's time to grow up and accept a new fucking game.

It's not spraying and praying, it's a learned spray pattern, which CSS lacks.

All pro American players switched. The best players still played 1.6. And we have no idea what Valve will do regarding ESPORTS.
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cellblock
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden206 Posts
October 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#552
Looked very horrific, sadly.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
October 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#553
For an alpha, it looks great. Assuming they do stick to their commitment to listen to player feedback, this should turn out great.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:41:12
October 13 2011 23:40 GMT
#554
On October 14 2011 08:39 Jibba wrote:


It's not spraying and praying, it's a learned spray pattern, which every single FPS game in the past 12 years lacks.


Fixed that for you, it's time to grow up and accept change. Memorizing spray patterns may have been a part of FPS games in the 90's, but it certainly isn't now.
MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:44:30
October 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#555
On October 14 2011 08:40 MattO1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:39 Jibba wrote:


It's not spraying and praying, it's a learned spray pattern, which every single FPS game in the past 12 years lacks.


Fixed that for you, it's time to grow up and accept change. Memorizing spray patterns may have been a part of FPS games in the 90's, but it certainly isn't now.

You use such a well reasoned argument. You're a valuable member of this forum and I respect your contributions.

You say that, except forget that 1.6 still has a larger playerbase than CSS. Why should it "grow up" when what it's been doing has worked. There's enough CoD clones on the market. CS's recoil and lack of floating are what set it apart from games like Urban Terror or CSS.
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MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:45:55
October 13 2011 23:43 GMT
#556
On October 14 2011 08:39 Jibba wrote:

All pro American players switched. The best players still played 1.6. And we have no idea what Valve will do regarding ESPORTS.

Birmingham Salvo? London Mint? Seoul Jinhwa? Stockholm Magnetik? Berlin Alliance? Teams outside of the US that made the switch?
Might not have been many, but Valve wasn't supporting CS:S as an eSport like they claim they will with CS:GO.

Valve already announced this game will be focused as an eSport.

MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 13 2011 23:44 GMT
#557
On October 14 2011 08:38 MattO1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:36 Shelke14 wrote:
The more they show this game, the more it looks like CSS and the higher tiered competitive scene will ignore it.


The only thing that will be ignored is your opinion. In 2007, all pro 1.6 players switched to source because the CGS was paying players $50,000 a year. Of course when the CGS died, they switched back. Valve proved they are supporting eSports by hosting a $1,000,000 DOTA2 tournament. There will be more money in CS:GO as an eSport than both CS:S and CS 1.6 combined. Any pro player of either game will switch over.


You mean the pro american players switched because they were having a hard enough time with the Euro's. Col was able to win a big tournament and EG made a name for themselves but overall the only people who switched were americans.

You may not like my statement but please do not over generalize when saying "all pro 1.6 players switched" when if you were following the scene back then you would know otherwise.
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
October 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#558
On October 14 2011 08:42 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:40 MattO1337 wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:39 Jibba wrote:


It's not spraying and praying, it's a learned spray pattern, which every single FPS game in the past 12 years lacks.


Fixed that for you, it's time to grow up and accept change. Memorizing spray patterns may have been a part of FPS games in the 90's, but it certainly isn't now.

You use such a well reasoned argument. You're a valuable member of this forum and I respect your contributions.

You say that, except forget that 1.6 still has a larger playerbase than CSS. Why should it "grow up" when what it's been doing has worked.


I'm not talking about CS:S, I'm talking about every single FPS game in the past 12 years.
You really think 1.6 playerbase is going to make an impact against TF2, CoD, Halo, Battlefield, and all of the other FPS games?
MarinePrince.929 - Son of MKP - Fan of MKP, IdrA, HuK, Demuslim, PuMa, Axslav, and MMA.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:45:55
October 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#559
Those weren't professional teams until they joined CGS for a couple of months. No established pro went to CSS except the American players.

Lol? I was in the fucking scene.
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PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#560
On October 14 2011 08:40 MattO1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:39 Jibba wrote:


It's not spraying and praying, it's a learned spray pattern, which every single FPS game in the past 12 years lacks.


Fixed that for you, it's time to grow up and accept change. Memorizing spray patterns may have been a part of FPS games in the 90's, but it certainly isn't now.


It has nothing to do with not accepting change. They're lowering the skill ceiling in order to appeal to bad players. CS:GO is another dumbed down rehash of 1.6, just like source, it has nothing to do with change.
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