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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2662 Posts
August 16 2012 13:56 GMT
#2321
Yeah the p2000 doesn't feel as powerful as the USP did back then. But its not bad, headshots with this gun still own and it is more adjusted to the Glock18 I guess. Now the Glock doesn't feel so shitty in comparison ^^
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 16 2012 14:00 GMT
#2322
On August 16 2012 22:46 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:32 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:29 gTank wrote:
The sensivity also depends on the resolution and since i played cs 1.6 on 800x600 and cs:go now n 1920x1080 I have the sensivity on 3 to 3.2 instead of the 2 to 2.2 (still experimenting with them)


I use to be a big sniper, so the lower the sensitivity, the better for me. I use to rock 1.5-1.8 sensitivity in CS:1.6

I'm trying to find the sweet spot in CS:GO. Also the crosshairs are not too great

Dont forget about zoom sensitivity ratio :p Its 1.0 by default in CS:GO opposed to 1.2 default in 1.6


I didn't touch the zoom settings in CS:1.6, what does that do??
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 14:10:13
August 16 2012 14:06 GMT
#2323
I'm enjoying the game but I have one complain :

When covered by shadows (which is about 40% of the maps), it is very hard to differenciate terrorists from CTs.
The terrorists tend to have some really dark outfits that just look like a CT when seen from a distance.
I don't' play with friendly fire for this reason and that's a shame :/

I do love the radar/map on the top left, very easy to set "ambushes" when one guy can spot the opponents
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 16 2012 14:10 GMT
#2324
On August 16 2012 23:00 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:46 bgx wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:32 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:29 gTank wrote:
The sensivity also depends on the resolution and since i played cs 1.6 on 800x600 and cs:go now n 1920x1080 I have the sensivity on 3 to 3.2 instead of the 2 to 2.2 (still experimenting with them)


I use to be a big sniper, so the lower the sensitivity, the better for me. I use to rock 1.5-1.8 sensitivity in CS:1.6

I'm trying to find the sweet spot in CS:GO. Also the crosshairs are not too great

Dont forget about zoom sensitivity ratio :p Its 1.0 by default in CS:GO opposed to 1.2 default in 1.6


I didn't touch the zoom settings in CS:1.6, what does that do??

I'm pretty sure it changes your sensitivity while zoomed. With a 1.0, you'll have the same mouse sensitivity when using a rifle as when using a zoomed-in awp, and by changing this value you change the relative sensitivity. Just change it to some huge number and you'll probably notice the difference.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 16 2012 14:29 GMT
#2325
On August 16 2012 22:29 gTank wrote:
The sensivity also depends on the resolution and since i played cs 1.6 on 800x600 and cs:go now n 1920x1080 I have the sensivity on 3 to 3.2 instead of the 2 to 2.2 (still experimenting with them)

I just want to make a correction, but your screen resolution has no bearing on sensitivity in a modern FPS. Pixels != radians and therefore the axial sensitivity or cm/360° rotation will be the same regardless of what resolution your monitor is (whether it's 800x600 or 1920x1200).

For this and other considerations regarding sensitivity (like zoom_sens), see the CPI, Player Sensitivity and Game Environments section in my Mouse Technology thread.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 14:44:28
August 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#2326
On August 16 2012 23:10 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:00 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:46 bgx wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:32 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:29 gTank wrote:
The sensivity also depends on the resolution and since i played cs 1.6 on 800x600 and cs:go now n 1920x1080 I have the sensivity on 3 to 3.2 instead of the 2 to 2.2 (still experimenting with them)


I use to be a big sniper, so the lower the sensitivity, the better for me. I use to rock 1.5-1.8 sensitivity in CS:1.6

I'm trying to find the sweet spot in CS:GO. Also the crosshairs are not too great

Dont forget about zoom sensitivity ratio :p Its 1.0 by default in CS:GO opposed to 1.2 default in 1.6


I didn't touch the zoom settings in CS:1.6, what does that do??

I'm pretty sure it changes your sensitivity while zoomed. With a 1.0, you'll have the same mouse sensitivity when using a rifle as when using a zoomed-in awp, and by changing this value you change the relative sensitivity. Just change it to some huge number and you'll probably notice the difference.


So the 1.0 CS:GO defaults to basically makes it that you have the same mouse sensitivity while zoomed in?

EDIT: Also, How is ELO determined? K:D ratio?
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#2327
Also, why is no one talking about how amazing the new in-game matchfinding is?

I mean, I miss the 'ol "5v5 || Our GameDaemons || CAL-M || East || gogogo||" script, but in game ELO with matchmaking?

I realize this feature is standard on, oh, every game now but come on! This is amazing for CS! Getting instaqueue scrims against equal opponents all day (one ELO's stabilize)? This is awesome!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2662 Posts
August 16 2012 14:45 GMT
#2328
Yeah I think I might have been wrong with the res/mouse sens. stuff :/
And matchmaking is awesome ^^ It works fast enough even with friends

One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
August 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#2329
How come all the commands i write in the console doesn't be saved?
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 15:20:04
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2330
On August 16 2012 22:52 Crownlol wrote:
A few thoughts on guns after some casual competitive with and against some CAL IM level ex teammates and friends:


- M4: Honestly, I can't figure out the mid to long range burst. Without silencer, I just don't see the point- I'll rarely use this weapon because of my next two points

- AUG: Buffed to be absolutely worth the price increase over the M4. The spray pattern is tight and predictable, it bursts up to around 4 shots reliably and med/long range. I probably won't use the scope very much, but this is *the* new battle rifle for me.

- SCAR-H: Wow. Absolutely viable in ranked play. I was able to get multiple 3 and 4 kills and one ace with this gun. This could be largely in part due to people not being able to 1AK me from long range yet, but it felt borderline OP. With good nades/spam, I could see this being added to a standard buy round alongside your teams AWP on maps like train, inferno, or nuke.

-P2000: Garbage, miss my USP. Didn't try the P250.

-P90: Hugely buffed, felt fairly usable... probably not in a match except on a small map or doing something like pushing apts on inferno

T:

Tec9: Very solid saveround/pistolround weapon. Perhaps even better than deagle for a pistolround buy. Incredible in those long pistol battles, where everyone is reloading except you. Solid accuracy and damage, loved it.

AK: Feels much stronger than the M4. Not used to the second burst yet- I shoot in bursts of two, and have come to "expect" my opponent to be dead on the second burst. Not so, quite yet. Perhaps I need to wait just a tick longer between bursts.


Additionally, the shotties range buff makes them feel actually usable situationally. The person playing lower inside on train got a few shottie kills, and I would assume something like pushing apartments on inferno or inside on train would work.



That is garbage.

M4 is fine, l2p.

P2000 is fine, l2p.

AUG is rubbish, obv.

No pistol is better than the deag.

P90 is still a retard gun.

ScarH, I haven't tried since I don't use garbage guns.

CS is a game that was designed for only a few guns to be viable, no matter the buffs of other weapons the same fact stands. None of this, make everyone happy even the dribbling retards bullshit which every game now has to cater for since fucking casual trash players ruin every game. Sadly they seem to have opened this game up more for shitters, however skilled players will always dominate scrubs no matter the weapons.

AWP, deag, ak, m4. They are always going to be your core guns, other weapons are only for 2nd round buys when you double in triple in round 1.
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
August 16 2012 15:21 GMT
#2331
On August 16 2012 23:37 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:10 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:00 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:46 bgx wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:32 trinxified wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:29 gTank wrote:
The sensivity also depends on the resolution and since i played cs 1.6 on 800x600 and cs:go now n 1920x1080 I have the sensivity on 3 to 3.2 instead of the 2 to 2.2 (still experimenting with them)


I use to be a big sniper, so the lower the sensitivity, the better for me. I use to rock 1.5-1.8 sensitivity in CS:1.6

I'm trying to find the sweet spot in CS:GO. Also the crosshairs are not too great

Dont forget about zoom sensitivity ratio :p Its 1.0 by default in CS:GO opposed to 1.2 default in 1.6


I didn't touch the zoom settings in CS:1.6, what does that do??

I'm pretty sure it changes your sensitivity while zoomed. With a 1.0, you'll have the same mouse sensitivity when using a rifle as when using a zoomed-in awp, and by changing this value you change the relative sensitivity. Just change it to some huge number and you'll probably notice the difference.


So the 1.0 CS:GO defaults to basically makes it that you have the same mouse sensitivity while zoomed in?

EDIT: Also, How is ELO determined? K:D ratio?


Lots of stuff, KDR/DPR/KPR/ACC/bunch of other stuff.
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#2332
On August 17 2012 00:19 Swwww wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:52 Crownlol wrote:
A few thoughts on guns after some casual competitive with and against some CAL IM level ex teammates and friends:


- M4: Honestly, I can't figure out the mid to long range burst. Without silencer, I just don't see the point- I'll rarely use this weapon because of my next two points

- AUG: Buffed to be absolutely worth the price increase over the M4. The spray pattern is tight and predictable, it bursts up to around 4 shots reliably and med/long range. I probably won't use the scope very much, but this is *the* new battle rifle for me.

- SCAR-H: Wow. Absolutely viable in ranked play. I was able to get multiple 3 and 4 kills and one ace with this gun. This could be largely in part due to people not being able to 1AK me from long range yet, but it felt borderline OP. With good nades/spam, I could see this being added to a standard buy round alongside your teams AWP on maps like train, inferno, or nuke.

-P2000: Garbage, miss my USP. Didn't try the P250.

-P90: Hugely buffed, felt fairly usable... probably not in a match except on a small map or doing something like pushing apts on inferno

T:

Tec9: Very solid saveround/pistolround weapon. Perhaps even better than deagle for a pistolround buy. Incredible in those long pistol battles, where everyone is reloading except you. Solid accuracy and damage, loved it.

AK: Feels much stronger than the M4. Not used to the second burst yet- I shoot in bursts of two, and have come to "expect" my opponent to be dead on the second burst. Not so, quite yet. Perhaps I need to wait just a tick longer between bursts.


Additionally, the shotties range buff makes them feel actually usable situationally. The person playing lower inside on train got a few shottie kills, and I would assume something like pushing apartments on inferno or inside on train would work.



That is garbage.

M4 is fine, l2p.

P2000 is fine, l2p.

AUG is rubbish, obv.

No pistol is better than the deag.

P90 is still a retard gun.

ScarH, I haven't tried since I don't use garbage guns.

CS is a game that was designed for only a few guns to be viable, no matter the buffs of other weapons the same fact stands. None of this, make everyone happy even the dribbling retards bullshit which every game now has to cater for since fucking casual trash players ruin every game. Sadly they seem to have opened this game up more for shitters, however skilled players will always dominate scrubs no matter the weapons.

AWP, deag, ak, m4. They are always going to be your core guns, other weapons are only for 2nd round buys when you double in triple in round 1.



What an insightful and well-stated response, not at all derpy.

AUG is significantly better than M4 now, sorry that your obsession with 1.6 is getting in the way of having a moderately open mind.

There's no chance that new map design, weapon changes, and gameplay changes have affected purchase orders and metagame at all right?

...These kids...
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 16 2012 15:39 GMT
#2333
On August 16 2012 23:45 gTank wrote:
Yeah I think I might have been wrong with the res/mouse sens. stuff :/
And matchmaking is awesome ^^ It works fast enough even with friends


no worries, even I made this mistake a year ago when I didn't understand how world transform matrices worked.

Regarding zoom_sens, I decided to use the AWP to test to see what exactly a zoom_sens of 1 meant. These are the results (leftmost point (0) is the origin point for all shots):

[image loading]
0 = fully zoomed out (normal sens), 1 = scope zoom 1, 2 = scope zoom 2

I'm not exactly sure what this means, but it looks like that a zoom_sens of 1 essentially halves (or is close to) your overall sensitivity? The main take away point is that a value of 1 does not retain your unscoped sensitivity. You can however change your zoom sensitivity in the console (zoom_sensitivity_ratio_mouse) to higher values, 2.5 is pretty close to the normal sens from what I tested.

P.S. Valve, I would like to know what the multiplier is plz...I don't like non-specific numbers.
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Sclow
Profile Joined January 2012
17 Posts
August 16 2012 15:43 GMT
#2334
Does anyone know what will change from beta to the live version?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 16 2012 15:44 GMT
#2335
So what does that mean? If my normal sensitivity without zoom is 3.00, what should my zoom sens be?
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
August 16 2012 15:50 GMT
#2336
On August 17 2012 00:27 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:19 Swwww wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 Crownlol wrote:
A few thoughts on guns after some casual competitive with and against some CAL IM level ex teammates and friends:


- M4: Honestly, I can't figure out the mid to long range burst. Without silencer, I just don't see the point- I'll rarely use this weapon because of my next two points

- AUG: Buffed to be absolutely worth the price increase over the M4. The spray pattern is tight and predictable, it bursts up to around 4 shots reliably and med/long range. I probably won't use the scope very much, but this is *the* new battle rifle for me.

- SCAR-H: Wow. Absolutely viable in ranked play. I was able to get multiple 3 and 4 kills and one ace with this gun. This could be largely in part due to people not being able to 1AK me from long range yet, but it felt borderline OP. With good nades/spam, I could see this being added to a standard buy round alongside your teams AWP on maps like train, inferno, or nuke.

-P2000: Garbage, miss my USP. Didn't try the P250.

-P90: Hugely buffed, felt fairly usable... probably not in a match except on a small map or doing something like pushing apts on inferno

T:

Tec9: Very solid saveround/pistolround weapon. Perhaps even better than deagle for a pistolround buy. Incredible in those long pistol battles, where everyone is reloading except you. Solid accuracy and damage, loved it.

AK: Feels much stronger than the M4. Not used to the second burst yet- I shoot in bursts of two, and have come to "expect" my opponent to be dead on the second burst. Not so, quite yet. Perhaps I need to wait just a tick longer between bursts.


Additionally, the shotties range buff makes them feel actually usable situationally. The person playing lower inside on train got a few shottie kills, and I would assume something like pushing apartments on inferno or inside on train would work.



That is garbage.

M4 is fine, l2p.

P2000 is fine, l2p.

AUG is rubbish, obv.

No pistol is better than the deag.

P90 is still a retard gun.

ScarH, I haven't tried since I don't use garbage guns.

CS is a game that was designed for only a few guns to be viable, no matter the buffs of other weapons the same fact stands. None of this, make everyone happy even the dribbling retards bullshit which every game now has to cater for since fucking casual trash players ruin every game. Sadly they seem to have opened this game up more for shitters, however skilled players will always dominate scrubs no matter the weapons.

AWP, deag, ak, m4. They are always going to be your core guns, other weapons are only for 2nd round buys when you double in triple in round 1.



What an insightful and well-stated response, not at all derpy.

AUG is significantly better than M4 now, sorry that your obsession with 1.6 is getting in the way of having a moderately open mind.

There's no chance that new map design, weapon changes, and gameplay changes have affected purchase orders and metagame at all right?

...These kids...



Enjoy bronze elo forever, casual.


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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 16 2012 15:55 GMT
#2337
On August 17 2012 00:43 Sclow wrote:
Does anyone know what will change from beta to the live version?


The m4 will have the silencer ^^ .
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
August 16 2012 15:59 GMT
#2338
On August 17 2012 00:50 Swwww wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:27 Crownlol wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:19 Swwww wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 Crownlol wrote:
A few thoughts on guns after some casual competitive with and against some CAL IM level ex teammates and friends:


- M4: Honestly, I can't figure out the mid to long range burst. Without silencer, I just don't see the point- I'll rarely use this weapon because of my next two points

- AUG: Buffed to be absolutely worth the price increase over the M4. The spray pattern is tight and predictable, it bursts up to around 4 shots reliably and med/long range. I probably won't use the scope very much, but this is *the* new battle rifle for me.

- SCAR-H: Wow. Absolutely viable in ranked play. I was able to get multiple 3 and 4 kills and one ace with this gun. This could be largely in part due to people not being able to 1AK me from long range yet, but it felt borderline OP. With good nades/spam, I could see this being added to a standard buy round alongside your teams AWP on maps like train, inferno, or nuke.

-P2000: Garbage, miss my USP. Didn't try the P250.

-P90: Hugely buffed, felt fairly usable... probably not in a match except on a small map or doing something like pushing apts on inferno

T:

Tec9: Very solid saveround/pistolround weapon. Perhaps even better than deagle for a pistolround buy. Incredible in those long pistol battles, where everyone is reloading except you. Solid accuracy and damage, loved it.

AK: Feels much stronger than the M4. Not used to the second burst yet- I shoot in bursts of two, and have come to "expect" my opponent to be dead on the second burst. Not so, quite yet. Perhaps I need to wait just a tick longer between bursts.


Additionally, the shotties range buff makes them feel actually usable situationally. The person playing lower inside on train got a few shottie kills, and I would assume something like pushing apartments on inferno or inside on train would work.



That is garbage.

M4 is fine, l2p.

P2000 is fine, l2p.

AUG is rubbish, obv.

No pistol is better than the deag.

P90 is still a retard gun.

ScarH, I haven't tried since I don't use garbage guns.

CS is a game that was designed for only a few guns to be viable, no matter the buffs of other weapons the same fact stands. None of this, make everyone happy even the dribbling retards bullshit which every game now has to cater for since fucking casual trash players ruin every game. Sadly they seem to have opened this game up more for shitters, however skilled players will always dominate scrubs no matter the weapons.

AWP, deag, ak, m4. They are always going to be your core guns, other weapons are only for 2nd round buys when you double in triple in round 1.



What an insightful and well-stated response, not at all derpy.

AUG is significantly better than M4 now, sorry that your obsession with 1.6 is getting in the way of having a moderately open mind.

There's no chance that new map design, weapon changes, and gameplay changes have affected purchase orders and metagame at all right?

...These kids...



Enjoy bronze elo forever, casual.

You haven't followed the CS:GO dev since the very beginning right?
They wanted people to try every gun available in the game, not only AK, M4, AWP, deagle and MP5 in 1.6, so they changed things around.
If you can't tell the difference, you either have never tried all the guns in the game or are really terrible at shooting games.
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2662 Posts
August 16 2012 16:15 GMT
#2339
On August 17 2012 00:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:43 Sclow wrote:
Does anyone know what will change from beta to the live version?


The m4 will have the silencer ^^ .


Thats so awesome :D
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 16 2012 16:21 GMT
#2340
On August 17 2012 00:44 trinxified wrote:
So what does that mean? If my normal sensitivity without zoom is 3.00, what should my zoom sens be?

whatever feels comfortable. Sensitivity is personal preference, for example, my current setup is 800CPI at 0.6 sens and a zoom_sens of 0.5 and that feels pretty good right now, but I'll likely tweak a bunch till it feels perfect.
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