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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
December 19 2016 23:13 GMT
#21701
Honestly I hate it when people don't use their mic. Infos are so fucking important in this game. I can't count the times where I died from an angle that I thought was safe (like from behind or from the side) because some guy changed position and didn't even say what he would or wouldn't cover now.

Lots of people do it wrong or don't give enough info but please for the sake of god just try at least. If they are annoying I can always mute them. I made the experience that, more often than not, people are at least trying if you yourself set a good example.
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
December 20 2016 10:04 GMT
#21702
I used to think that it would be the same everywhere but I recently got ESEA and I have to say, while there are still ragers and toxic players, the big majority of players on ESEA are so much nicer to play with than on MM. Seriously.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 10:41:57
December 20 2016 10:41 GMT
#21703
I still don't get how I don't encounter nearly as much rage and stupidity than you guys. Granted, I get the occasional rager or a few dudes that don't communicate nearly enough or just play plain stupid at this level, but most of my games are relatively uneventful. Hell, some are even pleasant surprises with people cheerful even when things go wrong, cracking jokes, mocking a stupid play like good friends would do, etc.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 13:37:56
December 20 2016 12:27 GMT
#21704
I think it is infectious attitude. The more relaxed you are, the more likely you will have pleasant games, whereas if you tend to be a rager, you will tend to recieve it back in your games and they turn into a shitfest. I encountered this effect when I started to play with a teammate who got easily triggered and more of my games turned unpleasant with less teamwork which is the exact effect of what you would expect to encounter from playing with a teammate. He would get angry at some guy who didn't speak English or didn't use a mic and the game would go downhill from there, wheras I tend to pay attention to radar and recognise that the game goes better if you don't rage.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 20 2016 17:36 GMT
#21705
On December 20 2016 19:41 Ragnarork wrote:
I still don't get how I don't encounter nearly as much rage and stupidity than you guys. Granted, I get the occasional rager or a few dudes that don't communicate nearly enough or just play plain stupid at this level, but most of my games are relatively uneventful. Hell, some are even pleasant surprises with people cheerful even when things go wrong, cracking jokes, mocking a stupid play like good friends would do, etc.


yeah same, I get maybe 1 cancer game out of 10-15. Granted I play like 1 game a week. maybe its an issue at lower levels.

Even when im rusty and having a bad game numbers wise, people have enough sense to realize im contributing in other ways.. baiting myself for trades etc etc..
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
December 20 2016 18:11 GMT
#21706
On December 20 2016 19:41 Ragnarork wrote:
I still don't get how I don't encounter nearly as much rage and stupidity than you guys. Granted, I get the occasional rager or a few dudes that don't communicate nearly enough or just play plain stupid at this level, but most of my games are relatively uneventful. Hell, some are even pleasant surprises with people cheerful even when things go wrong, cracking jokes, mocking a stupid play like good friends would do, etc.


Maybe from France you get less games on EU east servers?
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
December 21 2016 17:14 GMT
#21707
This game is so hard. Feels like you can get incredible good and when you have achieved that you still have a whole ladder to climb.

With luck on youtube i found the recoil master, and boy, it really helped.
So i just upped my small burst up a few notch in a very short time cuz of it.
Ehh, but doing those long bursts is still really hard in a game, its like your body memory needs more practice in real games.

I moved up a rank, i am rank legendary eagle or something right now.
Anyway my small burst is still bad and i feel that thats still my biggest strength, or maybe i know how to play smart is mine, anyway, i am really low at hitting moving targets for example.

Ye i have so much to learn still.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 21 2016 17:27 GMT
#21708
On December 21 2016 03:11 Kaiwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:41 Ragnarork wrote:
I still don't get how I don't encounter nearly as much rage and stupidity than you guys. Granted, I get the occasional rager or a few dudes that don't communicate nearly enough or just play plain stupid at this level, but most of my games are relatively uneventful. Hell, some are even pleasant surprises with people cheerful even when things go wrong, cracking jokes, mocking a stupid play like good friends would do, etc.


Maybe from France you get less games on EU east servers?


I really dunno, I sometimes get matched with russian speaking people, but not that often. Otherwise, I might not know I'm playing with eastern euros.

Sidenote: I really don't like playing with french people (unless they're personal friends of mine and even that may vary ).

@Foxxan:
I really got that feeling after carrying a few games in MM that landed me into LEM, thinking I was working my way up. Then with a few friends we started playing a bit more structured and looking for scrims on PCW, or just play in open Leagues like CEVO amateur or ESL Open.
I discovered a new world, as brutally as taking a train at full speed in the face. We've encountered a lot of teams that could either break us just with their aim/individual skill, and a very small number that had the most amazing coordination when (re)taking sites I've ever faced. I remember a particular game on Cache, was holding A, and god damn they were good at taking A. I remember feeling powerless, and at the same time completely awestruck.

That's the discovery that made me actually realise that you could get all the way up in global, and that would still be only the beginning if you want to be good.

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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-21 17:49:38
December 21 2016 17:48 GMT
#21709
My MM experience has generally been good even though there's sometimes someone there to ruin a game in some way but I feel that's quite rare. Even if it happens I've just learnt to accept it to move on and process it well. I play with a lot of Russians and eastern Europeans but I don't feel they're over represented in the group of rotten apples.

It's all about mentality and attitude to be honest.

Though I agree on not liking French players :D
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-21 19:25:31
December 21 2016 19:25 GMT
#21710
On December 22 2016 02:48 Nixer wrote:
Though I agree on not liking French players :D


I can tell, I think we played once together, and never after.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
December 21 2016 23:59 GMT
#21711
At what rank is playing ESEA a decent idea? I'm MG1 currently and a good teamplayer, but I don't want to be a liability nor do I want it to be a waste of time/money. I've heard conflicting stuff so I thought i'd ask.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 22 2016 00:31 GMT
#21712
It's a real shame TL are part of this PEA debacle. You knew it was coming, but you still hoped for more from Liquid.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
December 22 2016 00:32 GMT
#21713
What PEA debacle?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 22 2016 00:42 GMT
#21714
https://medium.com/@sirscootscs/an-open-letter-to-the-professional-esports-association-its-member-teams-and-the-counter-strike-db2fb8b55f75#.rr7jm5iz6

basically teams owning a tournament went as predicted, they are forbidding their players from playing at competing tournaments even very large ones
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 22 2016 02:58 GMT
#21715
On December 22 2016 09:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
It's a real shame TL are part of this PEA debacle. You knew it was coming, but you still hoped for more from Liquid.


Yeah I kinda forgot about it tbh, but if I were a betting man I would certainly bet that it would take this direction.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 22 2016 03:01 GMT
#21716
Skimming through that post, it is sad that something like this happens

However after the last major, I do have to say that I find the management of TLPro a bit questionable
EZ4ENCE
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-22 03:08:54
December 22 2016 03:08 GMT
#21717
It really saddens me to see Team Liquid involved in something like this. They used to be that team that cared about the scene, it's players, the community. The team that would always try be as professional as possible. The team that I bought lots of merchandise from, not only because I liked their players, but because the whole organisation seemed to have esports best interest at heart.

Reading stuff like this, and realizing that the Liquid organisation is behind it... They have abandoned their roots to become just another org, with nothing special about it. Go back a couple of years and compare and people would joke about the Liquid Passion vs EG Money or something like that and look at where we are today... EG is now a player owned organisation, and Liquid is trying its damn hardest to fuck their players over.

That's not the Liquid I supported when I bought their merchandise. This Liquid doesn't exists anymore, it's dead.
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-22 04:48:09
December 22 2016 04:45 GMT
#21718
On December 22 2016 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
At what rank is playing ESEA a decent idea? I'm MG1 currently and a good teamplayer, but I don't want to be a liability nor do I want it to be a waste of time/money. I've heard conflicting stuff so I thought i'd ask.

I'm not sure when the best time is to join but I got esea when I was LE~. I didn't do too well for a while but the experience was better. I know a lot of people have joined since and generally lowered the level of play on there too. There is a ranking system in place now that will hopefully put you in the right games. You might drop pretty hard at first but idk tbh. I would try it out for a month just to see if you like it.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 22 2016 05:41 GMT
#21719
On December 22 2016 04:25 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 02:48 Nixer wrote:
Though I agree on not liking French players :D


I can tell, I think we played once together, and never after.


Nah I've never played with you actually.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-22 09:32:07
December 22 2016 09:29 GMT
#21720
On December 22 2016 12:01 WindWolf wrote:
Skimming through that post, it is sad that something like this happens

However after the last major, I do have to say that I find the management of TLPro a bit questionable


Why so?

On the PEA stuff, that's indeed quite disheartening to see. I really hope the players manage to weigh in sufficiently to make the orgs and the association back out of that absolutely disgusting and terrible path.

I really hope for positive actions from TLpro's part. Would be pretty disappointed otherwise, if not feeling a stronger negative sentiment....
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