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Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
April 15 2015 17:59 GMT
#18441
There's three viewpoints to logoutmacro as I see it.

    -Probemicro's where you don't take into account various bugs, game client issues, computer issues and other stuff that can kill a character outside your control. You die, no matter what might cause it.
    -Common one where you use it when any of above situations occur. ripping to crashes etc just isn't fun nor feels fair for most people.
    -The other common one where you use it whenever issues occur as well as you feel you're about to die.


Probemicros viewpoint is just too narrow and causes a complete disconnect to what other feels is fair, me included, but lets not go into the shitfest discussion that was 2pages ago and let it be.
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 15 2015 18:01 GMT
#18442
pussies and excuses are all isee
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:04:50
April 15 2015 18:01 GMT
#18443
On April 16 2015 02:58 HolydaKing wrote:
The bleed effect was gone though, maybe it was burning dmg? Perhaps a fire dmg map? But can also be desync, because that slam knocks back (right?) and that's desyncing often. Still a shitty death.

EDIT: If you are new, maybe take some resistance nodes. You can always spec out of them if you don't take too many.


The bleed visual is gone, but the bleed still exist. It's a very rare bug but I've seen it happen before to myself included. Only recourse is to logout otherwise the bleed keeps going. I've seen it stick even when the duration should've run out long ago. It's sort of like the debuff is still existing but the server forgot it does or something so it doesn't remove it. Here's another example
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:03:55
April 15 2015 18:03 GMT
#18444
On April 16 2015 02:55 Procake wrote:
I started playing this a few days ago, I really like it. I'm in Act 1 Merciless though and my resistances are a bit shit, I didn't take any resist nodes because I found out they cap and you can get it from gear, so I thought it would be a waste.


Depends on ur tree but they aren't strictly awful (notables that provide all res especially are sometimes very desirable). U can always spec out of them later too. You can link your tree here (findable via logging in to the site, clicking the character face at the top left by ur name, then clicking the passive tree tab on what pops up) if you want some tips etc (also include what skills ur using and build goal). For act 1 ur gonna need some cold resistance to beat merveil. For act 2 its lightning resist primarily to beat sins (and vaal but taking dmg optional if u play right vs him). For act 3 it gets messy but lightning is good vs piety and fire is a requirement in docks (the preferred farming zone) for most builds.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:14:36
April 15 2015 18:11 GMT
#18445
On April 16 2015 02:59 Lysithea wrote:
There's three viewpoints to logoutmacro as I see it.

    -Probemicro's where you don't take into account various bugs, game client issues, computer issues and other stuff that can kill a character outside your control. You die, no matter what might cause it.
    -Common one where you use it when any of above situations occur. ripping to crashes etc just isn't fun nor feels fair for most people.
    -The other common one where you use it whenever issues occur as well as you feel you're about to die.




various bugs game client:

the only justification is for ggg to fix them promptly, it doesnt justify u to spam abuse logout whenver u pls

computers issues:

outside your control??? its YOUR comp fix ur shit.
dont fix it and u die, its your fault and stupidity

honestly pussies come out with the shittiest excuse to continue justify their blatant logout abuse to keep their excuse of a hc character, so much entitlement up in their hot elite head
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 15 2015 18:16 GMT
#18446
Everybody knows ur take on it Probemicro. Being intentionally inflammatory about it isn't OK.

If you want to get all worked up about other people logging out (seriously?) then do it not on these forums.
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Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
April 15 2015 18:22 GMT
#18447
On April 16 2015 03:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 02:55 Procake wrote:
I started playing this a few days ago, I really like it. I'm in Act 1 Merciless though and my resistances are a bit shit, I didn't take any resist nodes because I found out they cap and you can get it from gear, so I thought it would be a waste.


Depends on ur tree but they aren't strictly awful (notables that provide all res especially are sometimes very desirable). U can always spec out of them later too. You can link your tree here (findable via logging in to the site, clicking the character face at the top left by ur name, then clicking the passive tree tab on what pops up) if you want some tips etc (also include what skills ur using and build goal). For act 1 ur gonna need some cold resistance to beat merveil. For act 2 its lightning resist primarily to beat sins (and vaal but taking dmg optional if u play right vs him). For act 3 it gets messy but lightning is good vs piety and fire is a requirement in docks (the preferred farming zone) for most builds.


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAF4DHgW1BiMILgiJCpsVIBa_GY4ZtB9BIXYi4iP2JP0mlSoLLOkwfDKUNj1HfkfiTZJRR1VLVvpbr11oYeJirGVNbIxtbHBSd9d4638CfyuGzow2jX2Nv5UFmvGbjZ2qpuC1SL02vqfBM8qpytPTftQj1orZxt0N5wrnVOd06Nbtg-968-r8xf_e

This is my skill tree. I'm using Tornado Shot, I mostly followed a guide I followed on the forum as it's my first character. I think the idea is I eventually rack up lots of crit chance and multiplier, I'm also using hatred, herald of ice and herald of ash auras.

Is there a way I can show my gear too?
Lysithea
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden204 Posts
April 15 2015 18:28 GMT
#18448
On April 16 2015 03:22 Procake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 16 2015 02:55 Procake wrote:
I started playing this a few days ago, I really like it. I'm in Act 1 Merciless though and my resistances are a bit shit, I didn't take any resist nodes because I found out they cap and you can get it from gear, so I thought it would be a waste.


Depends on ur tree but they aren't strictly awful (notables that provide all res especially are sometimes very desirable). U can always spec out of them later too. You can link your tree here (findable via logging in to the site, clicking the character face at the top left by ur name, then clicking the passive tree tab on what pops up) if you want some tips etc (also include what skills ur using and build goal). For act 1 ur gonna need some cold resistance to beat merveil. For act 2 its lightning resist primarily to beat sins (and vaal but taking dmg optional if u play right vs him). For act 3 it gets messy but lightning is good vs piety and fire is a requirement in docks (the preferred farming zone) for most builds.


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAAF4DHgW1BiMILgiJCpsVIBa_GY4ZtB9BIXYi4iP2JP0mlSoLLOkwfDKUNj1HfkfiTZJRR1VLVvpbr11oYeJirGVNbIxtbHBSd9d4638CfyuGzow2jX2Nv5UFmvGbjZ2qpuC1SL02vqfBM8qpytPTftQj1orZxt0N5wrnVOd06Nbtg-968-r8xf_e

This is my skill tree. I'm using Tornado Shot, I mostly followed a guide I followed on the forum as it's my first character. I think the idea is I eventually rack up lots of crit chance and multiplier, I'm also using hatred, herald of ice and herald of ash auras.

Is there a way I can show my gear too?


You can either do a post on the poe forums or just hover the items ingame ctrl+c, then ctrl+v the stats here. Do it within a spoiler tho.
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:32:13
April 15 2015 18:28 GMT
#18449
u can link ur gear on the poe forums but not so much here
its pretty irrelevant anyway, ur gear should be changing rapidly even at this level.

the resist nodes that ur near suck ass unfortunately, although you could probably justify getting either weathered hunter or survivalist for 3 points = 14% all res with some upside and maybe skilling out of them later. Depends on how bad ur resists really are.

I assume ur playing sc so its not that big a deal if everything isn't perfect and u should be able to clear stuff no problem as a ranged character. What i really recommend is grabbing a decent bow (probably infractem or death's harp uniques) off of poe.trade for cheap lol since as an archer u cna pretty much just go faceroll dps most of the time.

ur tree is fine, with good nodes readily available for the next like 10 levels too.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 15 2015 18:31 GMT
#18450
Weathered Hunter is probably not too bad for a crit Tornado Shot build, so you might wanna pick it. Tornado Shot builds really are rather lacking resistances from the tree, I noticed that too.
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
April 15 2015 18:33 GMT
#18451
On April 16 2015 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
u can link ur gear on the poe forums but not so much here
its pretty irrelevant anyway, ur gear should be changing rapidly even at this level.

the resist nodes that ur near suck ass unfortunately, although you could probably justify getting either weathered hunter or survivalist for 3 points = 14% all res with some upside and maybe skilling out of them later. Depends on how bad ur resists really are.

I assume ur playing sc so its not that big a deal if everything isn't perfect and u should be able to clear stuff no problem as a ranged character. What i really recommend is grabbing a decent bow (probably infractem or death's harp) off of poe.trade for cheap lol since as an archer u cna pretty much just go faceroll dps most of the time.

ur tree is fine, with good nodes readily available for the next like 10 levels too.


Thanks, yeah actually I already pretty much one shot everything right now, it's mainly my lightning res is like 20% so that fucks me up a lot. I will get one of Weathered Hunter/Survivalist and see how it goes.
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
April 15 2015 18:36 GMT
#18452
On April 16 2015 03:31 HolydaKing wrote:
Weathered Hunter is probably not too bad for a crit Tornado Shot build, so you might wanna pick it. Tornado Shot builds really are rather lacking resistances from the tree, I noticed that too.


yeah actually Weathered Hunter probably the better one of the two to take.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
April 15 2015 18:43 GMT
#18453
On April 16 2015 02:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
level 15 knockback is only 39% which is pretty awful although with some chance from the tree u can get to a respectable amount afaik

Still i'm not sure discharge will cast THAT often u know linked to cwdt

Whatever, gmp inc aoe lightning ball then.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 15 2015 18:45 GMT
#18454
On April 16 2015 02:08 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
vacuum totems sounds sufficiently hilarious lol
the gloves are fairly bad outside that though, with about 850 armour after quality I think and nothing else (I can't think of many 4links that want vacuum added lol)

Alright, here's the next level new meta strat. RF build with a romiras equipped so your cyclone constantly gives you powercharges.

Put lvl 1 cwdt, 20% dicharge, 20/20 increased aoe in the gloves.

You are now permanently vaal cycloning while applying EE to anything on your screen. Use fourth socket for some sort of utility like enhance (increases aoe even more), culling strike or blind.


On April 16 2015 02:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
level 15 knockback is only 39% which is pretty awful although with some chance from the tree u can get to a respectable amount afaik

Still i'm not sure discharge will cast THAT often u know linked to cwdt


Can you just do a 4link of cwdt lvl 1, cwdt lvl 2, cwdtlvl 3, 20% discharge
then focus on AOE nodes (since you are going RF anyways)

that'd work right?
because the idea honestly sounds awesome to me
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:49:28
April 15 2015 18:47 GMT
#18455
no, u can only support a skill gem with 1 cwdt
keep in mind that the cwdt gem itself is a support, modifying the properties of the actual skill to have a trigger. thats how supports work in this game. The support gem itself isn't triggering anything.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 15 2015 18:50 GMT
#18456
I suppose it is, though it's a pretty unique support wouldn't you say? And unlike most supports it doesn't really *need* to work that way.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 15 2015 18:50 GMT
#18457
On April 16 2015 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Everybody knows ur take on it Probemicro. Being intentionally inflammatory about it isn't OK.

If you want to get all worked up about other people logging out (seriously?) then do it not on these forums.


oh being utterly entitled and delusional is fine then? kudos to their hc char they deserve it, more than any legit player

User was warned for this post
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:56:11
April 15 2015 18:55 GMT
#18458
On April 16 2015 03:50 travis wrote:
I suppose it is, though it's a pretty unique support wouldn't you say? And unlike most supports it doesn't really *need* to work that way.

i mean the other trigger supports are the same. Support gems are not coded to be able to cause something to happen, they can only modify the effects of skill gems. I assume there would be some fairly substantial re-coding involved to allow supports to cause something active to occur. And tbh, while in this case specifically it *kinda* makes sense, I think GGG are pretty OK with the current system.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 19:19:05
April 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#18459
Well if someone really want to be amusing couldn't they just build an AOE character, and then go like ice nova + faster cast + spell echo + increased AOE on our gloves. Then run righteous fire as their heavy single target damage.

Or maybe just run cyclone on the gloves with increased AOE and drag the screen around a little bit until it centers on you?
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
April 15 2015 19:36 GMT
#18460
On April 16 2015 02:59 Lysithea wrote:
There's three viewpoints to logoutmacro as I see it.

    -Probemicro's where you don't take into account various bugs, game client issues, computer issues and other stuff that can kill a character outside your control. You die, no matter what might cause it.
    -Common one where you use it when any of above situations occur. ripping to crashes etc just isn't fun nor feels fair for most people.
    -The other common one where you use it whenever issues occur as well as you feel you're about to die.


Probemicros viewpoint is just too narrow and causes a complete disconnect to what other feels is fair, me included, but lets not go into the shitfest discussion that was 2pages ago and let it be.


Well, I say good luck making him understand that. I've seen a lot of elitists in this game but this is just some next level shit.
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