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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
March 23 2015 23:06 GMT
#18101
Maybe they fix desync with 1.4 and act 4 is, in reality, a new server base.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
March 23 2015 23:15 GMT
#18102
Melee will make a comeback when GGG introduces a keystone with no drawback that makes you immune to your own phys reflect and makes you immortal against an entire class of damage dealer.

(isn't it funny that once upon a time no one took Ondar's Guile?)
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
March 23 2015 23:19 GMT
#18103
On March 24 2015 07:55 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 07:32 Kickstart wrote:
Ill be playing HC when they start. Unfortunately on the 25th I must spend the night at the hospital so will miss an entire night right at the start of the league, but I can spend pretty much all my time in the league if I wanted so shouldnt matter too much. I'll probably hop on the TS Alur when it starts.

Neat, because as it turns out my so called friends might have abandoned me. And I maybe I'll rip so we can start together anyways :D

Well luckily for me the start time of 10am pacific time is 1pm for me (eastern), so I may be able to play from start for 24 hours. Really depends on a lot of factors though. As for a build if you are going SRS, someone else said they were doing firetrap into RF, I guess I'll just stick with arc witch as I was debating between those 3 lol. Just my hospital stay is for a sleep study so I do want to make sure that I'll be able to sleep when I go .
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 23 2015 23:33 GMT
#18104
Going to come back to play for the 1 month, doing a melee build too, looking forward to it
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 23 2015 23:44 GMT
#18105
On March 24 2015 08:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Melee will make a comeback when GGG introduces a keystone with no drawback that makes you immune to your own phys reflect and makes you immortal against an entire class of damage dealer.

(isn't it funny that once upon a time no one took Ondar's Guile?)


Before Iron Reflexes got nerfed several times it wasn't such a bad thing honestly.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 23:57:06
March 23 2015 23:45 GMT
#18106
On March 24 2015 06:44 Uranium wrote:
I'm gonna try Probemicro's RF Fire Trap build for the 1month... might as well before fire becomes horrible and frost is new meta. Or (gasp) melee.


oh wow someone remembers ^^

btw you will notice that for RF builds theres quite a lot of strength nodes taken in the tree.

so you can stack strength in gear along with using alberon's 'warpath and use doon cuebiyari (you can get 600++ strength easily and thats already much better than a yellow sceptre as increased dmg mod doubledips burn). and with more and more strength it is on par or even better than doryani catalyst. you can use the iron will gem as a 6 link

theres also a nice variant build that ditch eb+CoD and chance to ignite gem completely, using 2X mokou embrace and cloak of flame for ignite chance. ditching chance to ignite gem frees up gem slot for iron will.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1066983
(its for flameblast but you can easily use fire trap instead)
i would rather use phoenix shield than saffell (since there will be a constant degen with saffell)
theres a 1.3 build at the back of that thread
Cheps
Profile Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
March 24 2015 13:53 GMT
#18107
Starting again as well for the 1 months.

Looking forward to it
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 24 2015 16:14 GMT
#18108
1-months start in 45 mins and I'm stuck at work for another 6 hrs fuuuuuuuuuu
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 16:17:01
March 24 2015 16:16 GMT
#18109
45 min! hype! ;-)
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
March 24 2015 20:29 GMT
#18110
@Probemicro: I noticed you don't have Holy Fire in your tree. I would think this is necessary since it scales both RF and Fire Trap? Or do we get enough FT damage from the RF more% mod, and it's better to just focus on getting tanky?

You used elemental proliferation, right? Will I be able to one-shot packs as if I were playing a crit burn build? I've never played a FT toon before, so it's hard for me to know how good the 4k tooltip you stated is.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 23:58:33
March 24 2015 23:55 GMT
#18111
On March 25 2015 05:29 Uranium wrote:
@Probemicro: I noticed you don't have Holy Fire in your tree. I would think this is necessary since it scales both RF and Fire Trap? Or do we get enough FT damage from the RF more% mod, and it's better to just focus on getting tanky?

You used elemental proliferation, right? Will I be able to one-shot packs as if I were playing a crit burn build? I've never played a FT toon before, so it's hard for me to know how good the 4k tooltip you stated is.


the same 5 points that you spend on taking holy fire (75% burning) could be spent on celestial judgement route (50% elemental + -2% resist). dont forget the latter double dips for ignite prolif which means holy fire is only better for RF itself.
the same links are used for incinerate so taking celestia judgement would make a general choice minimising respecs to spend when doing atziri.

i was doing 75+ maps when i was barely 80. with ee+coh curse on GMP LB/FP everything thats not a boss gets oneshotted.
nice thing about rf it helps to quickly take care of stragglers that the aoe of prolif misses out on.
with a better weapon like strength-specced doon or doryanicatalyst the dmg would be even better.

Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
March 25 2015 06:06 GMT
#18112
Servers are so bad. Imagine what's gonna happen at ACT4 launch day. Desyncs, rerolls, lag spikes, crashing instances.
A lot of people died for no reason including myself and streamers. So I decided to start in SC first and then I'll move to HC.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 25 2015 06:13 GMT
#18113
Desynced in merci docks, rip
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
March 25 2015 07:51 GMT
#18114
Doh, seems you didnt last much longer than I did ^^. I died pretty much exactly 7 hours into the league at lvl 47 ='[.
May play a bit more later today but can't devote too much time until Thursday, got appointments and such.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 20:43:11
March 25 2015 20:35 GMT
#18115
Shocker, I just died. Lvl 69 in the HC league I believe.

I died in a lvl 67 map where I met the exile that does Ground Slam which is a bit dangeous anyway because he can stun quite a bit. He then got possessed by some Tormented Spirit and had Puncture on hit... I got hit by a Ground Slam and lost like 30% hp per second despite having 230 hp/s life regen. My mistake to not log out quickly enough I guess.

I did not have a anti bleeding flask because I thought my pretty high armour (5k or so permanently, like 42% reduce) and regen would safe me from simple bleeding effects and Corrupting Blood was no issue because I played Dual Flametotem.

Not surprising that I didn't react properly, because it was the first moment ever that this char went below 50% hp I believe. Clear speed wasn't great, but safe.
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 20:51:21
March 25 2015 20:46 GMT
#18116
On March 25 2015 08:55 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 05:29 Uranium wrote:
@Probemicro: I noticed you don't have Holy Fire in your tree. I would think this is necessary since it scales both RF and Fire Trap? Or do we get enough FT damage from the RF more% mod, and it's better to just focus on getting tanky?

You used elemental proliferation, right? Will I be able to one-shot packs as if I were playing a crit burn build? I've never played a FT toon before, so it's hard for me to know how good the 4k tooltip you stated is.


the same 5 points that you spend on taking holy fire (75% burning) could be spent on celestial judgement route (50% elemental + -2% resist). dont forget the latter double dips for ignite prolif which means holy fire is only better for RF itself.
the same links are used for incinerate so taking celestia judgement would make a general choice minimising respecs to spend when doing atziri.

i was doing 75+ maps when i was barely 80. with ee+coh curse on GMP LB/FP everything thats not a boss gets oneshotted.
nice thing about rf it helps to quickly take care of stragglers that the aoe of prolif misses out on.
with a better weapon like strength-specced doon or doryanicatalyst the dmg would be even better.


Gotcha, I'm actually having an incredibly easy time. I'm playing softcore because I suck but I've only died once. Only got to level 40 yesterday, but still... I normally would have died quite a few times by now. Especially with all the tormentlines bullshit going on.

Your EE setup is GMP - ball lightning - freezing pulse - curse on hit - ele weak/flamm? Also, what kind of damage increases double dip on the burn? (Increase the initial hit, thereby increasing the base burn, then also increase the burn?)

I'm really torn between the CoD build and the CoF/Mokou's build... I won't need to decide until like 65, when I would start speccing up into the witch area. Probably gonna go for CoD because why not be tanky as all hell. Maybe one of these day's I'll man up and actually play a hardcore league.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 21:04:01
March 25 2015 20:56 GMT
#18117
On March 26 2015 05:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Shocker, I just died. Lvl 69 in the HC league I believe.

I died in a lvl 67 map where I met the exile that does Ground Slam which is a bit dangeous anyway because he can stun quite a bit. He then got possessed by some Tormented Spirit and had Puncture on hit... I got hit by a Ground Slam and lost like 30% hp per second despite having 230 hp/s life regen. My mistake to not log out quickly enough I guess.

I did not have a anti bleeding flask because I thought my pretty high armour (5k or so permanently, like 42% reduce) and regen would safe me from simple bleeding effects and Corrupting Blood was no issue because I played Dual Flametotem.

Not surprising that I didn't react properly, because it was the first moment ever that this char went below 50% hp I believe. Clear speed wasn't great, but safe.


Armor doesn't actually reduce bleed damage.

The hit that causes the bleed does get reduced by armor I suppose, but that is going to be a big hit from the exile which armor sucks against.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 23:39:23
March 25 2015 23:34 GMT
#18118
On March 26 2015 05:46 Uranium wrote:

Gotcha, I'm actually having an incredibly easy time. I'm playing softcore because I suck but I've only died once. Only got to level 40 yesterday, but still... I normally would have died quite a few times by now. Especially with all the tormentlines bullshit going on.

Your EE setup is GMP - ball lightning - freezing pulse - curse on hit - ele weak/flamm? Also, what kind of damage increases double dip on the burn? (Increase the initial hit, thereby increasing the base burn, then also increase the burn?)

I'm really torn between the CoD build and the CoF/Mokou's build... I won't need to decide until like 65, when I would start speccing up into the witch area. Probably gonna go for CoD because why not be tanky as all hell. Maybe one of these day's I'll man up and actually play a hardcore league.


BL-GMP-CoH-flammability. you want the extra ignite chance from flammability so use that. you can use FP in place of BL especially a low quality one.

elemental/fire dmg nodes/mods, increased dmg mods (from doon cuebiyari/le heup/dark seer etc), double dip burn. yeah it works like what you describe.

CoD is definitely much safer for HC, don't forget to run that arctic armour

On March 26 2015 05:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Shocker, I just died. Lvl 69 in the HC league I believe.

I died in a lvl 67 map...
I did not have a anti bleeding flask


woahhhhhh nooo
how can you not have one by lvl50...that and anticurse is a must have by then
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 25 2015 23:59 GMT
#18119
I dunno, the only time my Arcer (who I played in Torment and played a lot of 77-78 maps) needed a staunching flask was when he faced corrupted blood. As such, I didn't make an effort to roll one because with a totem char that problem does not exist. Though it may be that high level AA is good against bleed, which this char did not have.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 00:18:02
March 26 2015 00:14 GMT
#18120
On March 26 2015 08:59 HolydaKing wrote:
I dunno, the only time my Arcer (who I played in Torment and played a lot of 77-78 maps) needed a staunching flask was when he faced corrupted blood. As such, I didn't make an effort to roll one because with a totem char that problem does not exist. Though it may be that high level AA is good against bleed, which this char did not have.


Arctic Armor doesn't work on bleeds either because it isn't a hit. Physical degen is not reduced by armor or on hit damage reductions like AA or lightning coil. Things that work on all physical damage like Endurance Charges do reduce bleeds though.

On March 26 2015 08:34 Probemicro wrote:
woahhhhhh nooo
how can you not have one by lvl50...that and anticurse is a must have by then


I don't think rolling one that early is very cost efficient. Having one for dominus might be cool, but it is easier and cheaper to portal scum. You do have to pay attention and be ready to altF4 if you ever get a strong bleed though because you are going to die.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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