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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 12:13:06
December 22 2014 12:12 GMT
#17481
My funniest death in a Zana map was in a 60% speed map where I died in a room of leaping goats near a speed totem. I couldn't react at all.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 17:13:12
December 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#17482
Failed my 1st and 2nd Zana of the league ( 2nd one being Semi's daily ) because stupid DC & time based mission ...
Encountered a 3rd one today and it's Untainted Paradise lol.
Unfortunately it's filled with Devourer now which is hard as fuck and bluq is not replying my ingame pm right now. Bluq plox :<
The fact that there's only 2 people in our guild online & I don't know 50% of the people in my friendlist who's online atm is not helping urg :|
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 22 2014 17:39 GMT
#17483
I got an untainted paradise, invited 2 friends and we all just ripped 2 portals. The amount of devourers is crazy and somehow my cwdt didn't seem to mitigate their pop-up attacks.

Also I don't really have time to play much poe at Christmas time like this.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 22 2014 22:43 GMT
#17484
Just use arctic armour and rely on reflexes to dodge devourers while popping granite
Hue
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 23:23:19
December 22 2014 23:22 GMT
#17485
is this worth spending 4 Chaos to master mod 35-44 life on or should I just spend 4 alch to mod 25-34 life?

I'm playing Bloodlines

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E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 23:46:48
December 22 2014 23:45 GMT
#17486
You're better off spending those chaos to buy a better amulet.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 00:02:23
December 23 2014 00:01 GMT
#17487
its got that nice chaos res + spell dmg which is uncommon in an ammy. with added 44 life you will have 58 life total which is ok for an ammy. i would say go for it Its nice for a typical ammy, though usually people also look for mana regen/crit which depends on your build.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 23 2014 03:44 GMT
#17488
Depends on how much of an upgrade it is over your old one-- I'm leaning towards yes since that 10 hp * whatever multiplier could be the difference between RIP and "gee that was close".
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 05:45:45
December 23 2014 05:36 GMT
#17489
Shopping for jewelries can be very frustrated and confused sometimes.
Most of the time the seller has no idea what the hell he's talking about. When looking for ammy/rings and see the price tag of 1-2 ex, 80% of those are 10c at max. The "I have no idea what it's worth so just put a ridiculous price for funzy" syndrome.
A few rare times though, you encounter beauty like this for less than 3c ( re:subtle bragging )
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 23 2014 16:49 GMT
#17490
Does anybody know how Chin Sol works with traps?

I know point blank tracks how far the projectile travels so it's great with traps but chin sol says "100% more bow damage at close range" and I'm not sure how that is calculated or anything. The wiki doesn't seem to have any info on it.

I wanna try chin sol/point blank/burning arrow prolif trap build.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 17:01:58
December 23 2014 17:01 GMT
#17491
On December 24 2014 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Does anybody know how Chin Sol works with traps?

I know point blank tracks how far the projectile travels so it's great with traps but chin sol says "100% more bow damage at close range" and I'm not sure how that is calculated or anything. The wiki doesn't seem to have any info on it.

I wanna try chin sol/point blank/burning arrow prolif trap build.

Yep last league Chin Sol was the cray because it double dip with point blank. Basically chin sol + point blank = 4x dmg
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
December 23 2014 17:17 GMT
#17492
However, it should only work as long as you are wearing a bow and a skill that scales off of it. Your build should work as long as you are wearing a bow.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 23 2014 17:23 GMT
#17493
I'm curious how i could be using a chin sol but not wearing a bow lol

anyway as much fun as it is theory crafting, chances are i'll never do the build cuz 2lazy to level another char lol.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
December 23 2014 17:27 GMT
#17494
On December 24 2014 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm curious how i could be using a chin sol but not wearing a bow lol

anyway as much fun as it is theory crafting, chances are i'll never do the build cuz 2lazy to level another char lol.


Brainfart told me chin sol was an armor, lol.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 23 2014 17:34 GMT
#17495
i'm having limited success getting the PB passive, lots of chance to ignite on the tree as well as the quality of life trap nodes.

but the PB gem is so ass at least the negative attackspeed doesn't hinder traps lol. i need 212 dex from somewhere though too.

ps do traps use ur accuracy value?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 18:16:23
December 23 2014 18:09 GMT
#17496
On December 24 2014 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Does anybody know how Chin Sol works with traps?

I know point blank tracks how far the projectile travels so it's great with traps but chin sol says "100% more bow damage at close range" and I'm not sure how that is calculated or anything. The wiki doesn't seem to have any info on it.

I wanna try chin sol/point blank/burning arrow prolif trap build.


The cool thing to do last league was to get a 4L Chin Sol and put puncture trap pointblank and ICD. Then you swap for rares and have a super damage trap. Once you have a good enough harbinger it becomes pointless to swap, but it makes bosses fairly trivial when you're just getting into maps.

Using Chin Sol at end game maps is pointless because the 100% more damage multiplier from the bow isn't better than good crit harbinger.

On December 24 2014 02:01 vndestiny wrote:
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On December 24 2014 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Does anybody know how Chin Sol works with traps?

I know point blank tracks how far the projectile travels so it's great with traps but chin sol says "100% more bow damage at close range" and I'm not sure how that is calculated or anything. The wiki doesn't seem to have any info on it.

I wanna try chin sol/point blank/burning arrow prolif trap build.

Yep last league Chin Sol was the cray because it double dip with point blank. Basically chin sol + point blank = 4x dmg


Taking the actual node made your tornado shot suck. People just used the gem plus chin sol.

ps do traps use ur accuracy value?


The trap itself will always trigger when something walks over it. If a weapon attack is linked to the trap then it will roll your accuracy.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 19:15:28
December 23 2014 18:25 GMT
#17497
Hmmm okay
I'm trying to avoid crit cuz thats all I ever do these days

Fleshed out theorycrafting:
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYA5Rm0OPv1l5dFfIw2Fr_ljqSxBiMfQQMetUhtbNvntMVTMTIYswNwUXZv2FR-sKTCFHVW-nfXfyswfFFHjb8FtcLs1opX2DGzkA0b4Oc6j0anCLiT6-4o-lfJDXzqurQMkycc3C1HUEKYrcNtXGuESPfXm6EulJeFNPchsPFsrJhxeRccEmmdrhhlGmzLveaBB2MRL-tjmZrndOjW7DgpT-QijHaePLcxgpvtILaGaPJ8S746EHvbGrFC8xFxhcAahq4sv8HFf8YV11ZjfNn3MnKprKpZ8w==

107 points is kinda a lot but I get all 3 passives from bandits quest which helps.
plan:CI Chin sol/pb/burning arrow/ignite + prolif trapper.
Tons of ES + CI. Tons of ele/fire/bow/proj dmg (everything applies lol). All relevant trap nodes (trigger radius, fire pen, can't be damaged). Point Blank. Elemental Equilibrium. Resolute Technique. I can take zealots oath + 2% regen if I decide I need it.

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Main: BA/Chance to Ignite/Trap/Ele Prolif/Increased Burning damage (5l but really just 4l in deerstalkers till I get a 5L). 6L is probably WED. Could be fire pen or PPAD possibly.
Equilibrium Trigger: Lightning Trap/Curse on Hit/Flammability/(chain/multitrap whichever is better at mass-triggering Elemental Equilibrium). I could try Coldsnap/Trap/CoH/Flam in order to defensively freeze/chill but then shattering fucks me over.
Single Target: if I end up with a spare 5l (since bow + chest + deerstalkers lol) then sub out prolif for fire pen in a 2nd BA trap link.
Auras: Discipline/Herald of Ash/Reduced Mana. Thats it I think. Maybe a low clarity in there but the build shouldn't be mana intensive. I don't need PoF for max res because I'm reflect immune.
Misc: Probably the new blink arrow or w/e. maybe a culling/rarity link for lulz.

Gear is just Chin Sol, Blackgleam, and then ES/Resist rares in every other slot. Which probably leaves me room for rarity on all my jewelry eventually . If I play this in HC I guess i need chayula + dream fragments but if i'm not retarded I can just not get hit by that stuff. I might even be able to use alphas instead of dream fragments although that seems questionable since my aura setup is very very bare-bones (and all blue/red )

Chance to ignite is 20% from BA, ~42% from C2I (44 at 20 i guess), 30% from tree (maybe 25 till very late), ~13% from flammability. Technically quality increased burning damage could be up to another 10% but i'm already over 100 so
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 18:45:46
December 23 2014 18:42 GMT
#17498
Crit is pretty much the only way to get viable damage end game so there isn't a choice. Especially when you're talking about ignite which gains significantly from having a single big hit.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 18:55:49
December 23 2014 18:53 GMT
#17499
Technically i'm abusing like 4 + multiplicative mechanics outside of crit which feels like it should be enough to not suck ass
buuuut i'm not that hopeful lol. (trap gem = ~33%, PB = 50%, Chin Sol = 100%, EE + curse is definitely multiplicative even if not really a specific amount, WED/PPAD are multipliers 59/49 respectively). Plus fire/ele damage sort of double dipping, burns sort of being a more multiplier, and that new extra damage to burning/frozen/shocked target node being multiplicative in the way shocks are.

There's a chance the build doesn't suck. Keep in mind it gets to spend the vast majority of the time doing safe things and is completely reflect immune. Plus it actually should have a huge ES pool.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 23 2014 19:13 GMT
#17500
I like your idea and it sounds great. Go for it and tell us how it works!
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