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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
October 28 2014 11:03 GMT
#17021
Haven't played the game for a while, if any EU player is about to start fresh in Beyond, I would like to tag along. Party is almost always more fun for me. If anyone wonders highest I reached was lvl 82 which died to desync while mapping solo about a year ago HC obviously
There is no fate, but what we make.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 13:19:22
October 28 2014 13:06 GMT
#17022
On October 28 2014 19:41 Onekobold wrote:
Hey guys, I'm working on the level 65 challenge so I can get that sweet microtransaction and I thought I would try something new when I level my templar. The plan is to convert 100% of my damage to fire without using avatar of fire.

The plan is to use Molten Strike (60% conversion of physical damage to fire), Chernobog's Pillar (25%), Hrimsorrow (25% conversion to cold) and Pyre (100% cold converted to fire). This means I can convert all my physical and cold damage (herald of ice, hatred) to pure fire damage.

My main question is in regards to picking nodes on the skill tree and scaling my damage. Molten Strike, Hatred and Herald of Ash all scale off physical damage, so it seems to me like picking up good physical damage nodes would be the best idea. And I suppose I could spec into block as well. What do you think?

Here is my current ideas for gear:

Hat: Alpha's Howl. I'm planning to run Hatred, Herald of Ash, Herald of Ice, and maybe another aura if I can manage it. If it turns out I don't need it, a rare hat will be fine
Chest: The plan is for a regular chest, I would love to use Kaom's Heart, but with a 1 handed weapon and a shield, I would lose my six link.
Weapon: Doryani's Catalyst. I don't think there is anything better than this. If the wiki page on vaal orbs is correct, there is a 10-20% "Physical Damage converted to fire" mod that can spawn on corrupted sceptres, so if I could get that mod on doryani's, that could eliminate the need for hrimsorrow (not quite, but 95% conversion to fire damage is good enough for me). But searches on poe.trade don't show any of those existing in any league, temp or permanent.
Shield: Chernobog's Pillar. Necessary for fire conversion.
Gloves: Hrimsorrow.
Belt: I can only really see the doryani's fire belt being good here, but I guess a rare would be ok as well.
Boots: Just rares, Gang's Momentum might be neat, but I think I'll need this slot for resists.
Rings: Pyre x1, Rare ring x1
Amulet: I don't think there is any unique that would help with this spot, so rare amulet.

I'm open to all suggestions, I'm not leveling this build right away, I plan for it to be my last character after I level the scion. Please tell me what you think, I really like this idea and I think it can go places.

Oh, I almost forgot, Here is the version 0.1 build I came up with: http://tinyurl.com/l5s44sx

I did a 100% phy to fire melee b4 so I can give some thoughts.
What's your plan of 5L btw ? I assume Molten strike + multistrike + WED + added fire/faster attk + ??? ( you will definitely need a life leech/lgoh here as well, especially as melee, 1% from Catalyst or another 1% from belt will do very little ). Melee phy won't be good since it won't affect the molten proj at all.

Now for the important part, mana sustainability ( unless you plan to use Soul Taker). 100% fire can't leech, so how to sustain. You prob have to drop 1 aura and have a decent lvl of Clarity, even then it's prob only 20 mana per sec or so with no mana investment. Obviously not enough. Hence you probably have to invest in addition 5-6 mana nodes. Or just drop a gem for BM, sacrifice dmg meanwhile.

Life may be sketchy with at least 3 slot with unique/no life. Chernobog's Pillar base block chance is spectacularly low so I don't think it's worth it to go for block also.

After looking at your tree, there are decent life but no mana investment at all, hence I don't think you can sustain even a 4L with that, unless ST or BM again ofc. Counting strength there are around 80% increase melee phy which won't go to the proj, a bit of a waste but can't do anything about it I guess.

As a melee which no block & very little armor, I'm afraid incoming physical dmg is gonna be quite iffy ( read as: may get rekted very hard ).

Skill tree can be improved. Since you're converting 100% to fire, ele nodes & phy nodes are equal. Hence the trip to Celestrial Walker cluster is pretty inefficient. I suggest investing into the convenient Bone Breaker cluster instead, with great value too. Otherwise dmg is good I think.

TLDR: Sustainability, incoming physical dmg, stretch on res/life, skill tree can be improved.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
October 28 2014 13:09 GMT
#17023
On October 28 2014 20:03 Invoker wrote:
Haven't played the game for a while, if any EU player is about to start fresh in Beyond, I would like to tag along. Party is almost always more fun for me. If anyone wonders highest I reached was lvl 82 which died to desync while mapping solo about a year ago HC obviously

There maybe a few still roll Beyond in our guild but I can't guarantee decent size party, as it's pretty late in the league/irl caught up, and some have defected into Rampage.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 20:52:48
October 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#17024
I'm really unsure what the value of not skilling avatar of fire is if ur literally touching it. Hrimsorrow are some hella ass gloves.

Regardless

Path through the mana regen from templar start to get the ele nodes to save yourself 2 nodes (even if u choose to link blood magic its 2 nodes saved)

Personally I wouldn't play a melee build without one of the OP damage mitigation mechanics (max block, preferably with aegis aurora , or else MoM)

Also if ur only intending on going to 65... 103 seems like a lot of points haha.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
October 28 2014 20:51 GMT
#17025
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
October 28 2014 20:59 GMT
#17026
Don't forget about warlord's mark, which now grant life/mana leech from any type of damage. Should help a bit !
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
November 01 2014 12:04 GMT
#17027
EL trolls me. This time I was really fast early around. Then I never got an upgrade for my 32% ipd tribal maul until lvl 21. Still second marauder, but jesus...
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 06 2014 20:09 GMT
#17028
Lol, found a 329,6 PDPS 1h mace on Beyond... Oo

I think that's one of the best weapon drops I've ever had. 197% IPD and 17-35 phys together is pretty nice. Too bad it's a mace and too bad Beyond is almost over. Although not really, I do want new leagues already. Not playing much anymore, most days not at all, though I try to catch Endless Ledge races but I recently always forget them or they're between 0:00 and 6:00 in the morning.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 01:10:03
November 11 2014 18:48 GMT
#17029
Man. I pray that GGG is smarter than the community and sees through all this "2-handers suck" crap to the fact that it's a problem with every weapon type except bows, daggers, and wands.

I mean, claws suck compared to daggers. Swords suck compared to daggers since elemental auras got nerfed. Axes suck compared to daggers since forever. Maces suck except 2-handers for ground slam.

When everything sucks compared to daggers and people are getting to level 100 in a month, it's time to consider that you just need to nerf daggers and maaaaaybe wands.

Oh, and remove Elreon level 8 mod from the next set of leagues. That was what really drew the problem into the temp leagues.

As a side note, Glacial Cascade+Added Lightning+Added Chaos with Herald of Ice/Herald of Lightning is really, really good as a leveling skill. Don't need anything but spell damage and a bit of cast speed and mana-wise it's dirt cheap.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
November 17 2014 03:25 GMT
#17030
Hm the crash rollback exploit has been discovered and fixed. However it seems like the bug has been there for a very very long time.

Though GGG said they have been monitored ppl & it's easy to check, they couldn't possibly know all the way back to Domination/Ambush right ? That means there might be a huge amount of godlike items achieve through a handfew of ex & et. Interesting.
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
November 21 2014 02:45 GMT
#17031
I can't reclaim my Haku crafting bench from him for some reason, and I can't dismiss/reinvite him because he's only 90k rep from level 8. D'oh!
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 21 2014 05:34 GMT
#17032
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
November 21 2014 10:52 GMT
#17033
On November 21 2014 11:45 Hoosegow wrote:
I can't reclaim my Haku crafting bench from him for some reason, and I can't dismiss/reinvite him because he's only 90k rep from level 8. D'oh!

This could help I hope
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1108536
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 11:55:10
November 21 2014 11:40 GMT
#17034
Wow so much has happened in the last 6 months or so, since I stopped playing. It's almost terrifying. Time to get grinding. I don't suppose there's some easy/fast/cheap FOTM build, like spectral throw was last time I played?
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 13:25:26
November 21 2014 13:12 GMT
#17035
i hate this term cheap. easy to lvl up...?...how about this? and spectral works still fine. in fact thx to crafting all physical builds work fine
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 21 2014 13:55 GMT
#17036
cheap as in doesn't require expensive items, easy to start with
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 21 2014 15:27 GMT
#17037
Well, now isn't the BEST time to re-start since we are approaching the lowest player population point (right before new leagues open) but w/e.

Most builds are actually pretty ez and inexpensive to gear. If ur reliant on weapons you can craft urself completely end-game viable weapons for fairly cheap these days and if ur not, spells are pretty powerful since spell echo became a thing so you should be able to hit 80+ on a 4link no problem.

The only variation these days is that you need more defensive mechanics than just "life".
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 21 2014 15:36 GMT
#17038
yeah, found that out reading around. i'll be waiting for the new leagues with anticipation.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-21 23:31:54
November 21 2014 23:31 GMT
#17039
On November 21 2014 14:34 Onekobold wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/Ga9oR7l.jpg
I don't know if there will ever be a way to make these hats look good

Ya, I was going for my fifth challenge and only had witch and scion to go about halfway through the league. Then I decided that it was ugly enough that I wouldn't want to ever use it and just enjoyed playing with the characters I already made and liked instead.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
November 22 2014 00:53 GMT
#17040
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