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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 27 2014 11:09 GMT
#17041
PoE 1.3 changes look pretty nice. I think that'll be the time I'll play again. Currently just playing DA:I and watching Dreamhack, so I won't be playing the coming one week leagues.

Might even try a wander given that AoE wand skill looks nice. But most likely some sort of melee since they are going to change Templar/Mara/Duelist trees quite a bit. Not sure if the new leagues will be more interesting. But I'll probably play the softcore one since in that league there'll be new monsters and more loot, while the new hardcore one just will be a lot harder if I see it correctly.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:01:58
November 27 2014 11:56 GMT
#17042
so bloodlines is basically like nemesis but for blue monsters. though i have a feeling it would be more irritating than nemesis, expecting a whole bunch of bs mods from it. but still better than dogshit beyond league.

magic pack mod for maps is gonna be lulz.

and as usual softcore league is freebies galore.

don't care about pvp
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 27 2014 14:29 GMT
#17043
so I am kinda a complete newbie made it to lvl 67 now with an arc witch in standard ( some BS beyond mob got me in normal mode T_T )

at the moment I do around 3600 paper DPS with arc, got 3500 life and got enough mana and manareg to run permanent Arctic Armour + Clarity, Discipline, Purity of Elements, Herald of Thunder.
I am fairly happy with my HP pool at the moment but my DPS feels kinda lackluster, I tried to do some 66 maps, I can do them but it takes me a while. I got Arc linked to Faster Casting, Spell Echo and Lightning Penetration, had no luck with 5links so far.
I was hoping you guys could give me some general advice what I could do to improve my character.

I kinda want to do a templar in the new leagues and try my luck on hardcore again, see how far I get this time ^_^
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 15:02:22
November 27 2014 15:02 GMT
#17044
On November 27 2014 23:29 Skilledblob wrote:
so I am kinda a complete newbie made it to lvl 67 now with an arc witch in standard ( some BS beyond mob got me in normal mode T_T )

at the moment I do around 3600 paper DPS with arc, got 3500 life and got enough mana and manareg to run permanent Arctic Armour + Clarity, Discipline, Purity of Elements, Herald of Thunder.
I am fairly happy with my HP pool at the moment but my DPS feels kinda lackluster, I tried to do some 66 maps, I can do them but it takes me a while. I got Arc linked to Faster Casting, Spell Echo and Lightning Penetration, had no luck with 5links so far.
I was hoping you guys could give me some general advice what I could do to improve my character.

I kinda want to do a templar in the new leagues and try my luck on hardcore again, see how far I get this time ^_^



Those links for your Arc are perfect, sounds like it might be your passive tree that is making you suffer. My experience with Arc taught me that the clear speed should be really high. Can you link your build for us please and ill do my best to look it offer and offer some advice.
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 27 2014 15:13 GMT
#17045
Well Arc is pretty good, but gem level as well as getting the +1 helmet whose name I don't remember right now are huge dps boosters.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 27 2014 15:16 GMT
#17046
Anyone has a dual totem build suggestion ?
Got to level 78 with a Chin Sol build and no right hand, I'm pretty happy for my first time doing maps^^
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 27 2014 15:18 GMT
#17047
If u ask me, you only should go dual totem if you go Flame Totem or Shockwave Totem. If you know which one, you can just google and get good ones pretty quickly.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 27 2014 15:20 GMT
#17048
Yeah, that should be enough for a start, thanks
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 15:23:30
November 27 2014 15:21 GMT
#17049
They're both very very good, especially if u wanna go IIR/IIQ char. They're very safe if you go CI and you can just use a high ES chest and shield and then you can use IIR/IIQ on almost every other item (though having some resistances won't hurt I suppose, but mostly your totems should tank).

I just don't recommend Spell Totem + skill builds as the Spell Totem gem itself got nerfed too hard back in the days when they decided to nerf Spark totems.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 16:00:26
November 27 2014 15:55 GMT
#17050
On November 28 2014 00:21 HolydaKing wrote:
They're both very very good, especially if u wanna go IIR/IIQ char. They're very safe if you go CI and you can just use a high ES chest and shield and then you can use IIR/IIQ on almost every other item (though having some resistances won't hurt I suppose, but mostly your totems should tank).

I just don't recommend Spell Totem + skill builds as the Spell Totem gem itself got nerfed too hard back in the days when they decided to nerf Spark totems.

You're disregarding the enormous mana investment of CI dual totem here T_T.
Life BM should be the cheapest totem build atm is I think. CI requires pretty heavy resource management & low life is well, why would you do totems with low life.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 16:15:41
November 27 2014 16:06 GMT
#17051
Meh you are overrating it imo. Mana cost on skills on skills got reduced, especially for GMP. I played an infernal mantle dual Flame Totem CI char about 3 months ago and it wasn't very mana heavy (plus getting a lot of mana regen is easy these days). But sure, Bloodmagic is the cheapest way but not really cheap if you plan to get MF gear.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 17:14:46
November 27 2014 17:11 GMT
#17052
On November 28 2014 00:02 MaRCsoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 23:29 Skilledblob wrote:
so I am kinda a complete newbie made it to lvl 67 now with an arc witch in standard ( some BS beyond mob got me in normal mode T_T )

at the moment I do around 3600 paper DPS with arc, got 3500 life and got enough mana and manareg to run permanent Arctic Armour + Clarity, Discipline, Purity of Elements, Herald of Thunder.
I am fairly happy with my HP pool at the moment but my DPS feels kinda lackluster, I tried to do some 66 maps, I can do them but it takes me a while. I got Arc linked to Faster Casting, Spell Echo and Lightning Penetration, had no luck with 5links so far.
I was hoping you guys could give me some general advice what I could do to improve my character.

I kinda want to do a templar in the new leagues and try my luck on hardcore again, see how far I get this time ^_^



Those links for your Arc are perfect, sounds like it might be your passive tree that is making you suffer. My experience with Arc taught me that the clear speed should be really high. Can you link your build for us please and ill do my best to look it offer and offer some advice.


my tree looks like this atm

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMASbIC4welghDfsCyc5Ox2ERBYHwIyNFXGg9sEB18q6-TpAt-K2VsbJUuubRnAVAj0vOpqQ4IewfOVIGsX2wsRln_GoqNJUfDVlS4HHme9T6_06TaJna6nCNgkNsXa3RZvGmzjajbpJKoXL_rSVdZk54CktQTkIkZxtAyTJxzcHarhiF3yDkikkX4zjDYTniaVYeJVSxa_B2PLvVfJDXzquvnogsco-lNSRZ2a4Ovu


I think there might be some stuff that could be done, most likely with how I got to shaper.

also I found two Sacrifices at Midnight. What do I do with those?
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 18:54:56
November 27 2014 18:33 GMT
#17053
On November 28 2014 02:11 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 00:02 MaRCsoN wrote:
On November 27 2014 23:29 Skilledblob wrote:
so I am kinda a complete newbie made it to lvl 67 now with an arc witch in standard ( some BS beyond mob got me in normal mode T_T )

at the moment I do around 3600 paper DPS with arc, got 3500 life and got enough mana and manareg to run permanent Arctic Armour + Clarity, Discipline, Purity of Elements, Herald of Thunder.
I am fairly happy with my HP pool at the moment but my DPS feels kinda lackluster, I tried to do some 66 maps, I can do them but it takes me a while. I got Arc linked to Faster Casting, Spell Echo and Lightning Penetration, had no luck with 5links so far.
I was hoping you guys could give me some general advice what I could do to improve my character.

I kinda want to do a templar in the new leagues and try my luck on hardcore again, see how far I get this time ^_^



Those links for your Arc are perfect, sounds like it might be your passive tree that is making you suffer. My experience with Arc taught me that the clear speed should be really high. Can you link your build for us please and ill do my best to look it offer and offer some advice.


my tree looks like this atm

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMASbIC4welghDfsCyc5Ox2ERBYHwIyNFXGg9sEB18q6-TpAt-K2VsbJUuubRnAVAj0vOpqQ4IewfOVIGsX2wsRln_GoqNJUfDVlS4HHme9T6_06TaJna6nCNgkNsXa3RZvGmzjajbpJKoXL_rSVdZk54CktQTkIkZxtAyTJxzcHarhiF3yDkikkX4zjDYTniaVYeJVSxa_B2PLvVfJDXzquvnogsco-lNSRZ2a4Ovu


I think there might be some stuff that could be done, most likely with how I got to shaper.

also I found two Sacrifices at Midnight. What do I do with those?

Your passive tree is very inefficient. This is pretty common to do when you're not too familiar with the game yet. Good rule of thumb for non prolif caster builds is to get as much cast speed as possible on noncrit builds, and as much crit as possible on critbuilds. Now, looking at your skilltree it looks like you are going for noncrit, which is very good while leveling since you kind of need levels and gear to make crit work. But you can always transition if you want later on (lvl 75+ imo) You can use my lvl 100 build as a decent baseline to see how to spec for efficent. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/998726/page/1


For critbuilds there's several around the poe forums, the most famous one is Foxtactics one, which was even on build of the week + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/998356


Unless you're rich, respeccing is usually pretty terrible past the 20ish points that you get from respec quests, but it should really be worth it in the big picture. Biggest differences is that you went for aura + es nodes, and not heart of thunder cluster. Shock duration nodes are also completely overkill, trust me. They only matter on bosses, and endgame you can actually keep them almost permashocked without, even as noncrit.

Not really sure how your gear is at this point. But if it's really bad, and you're poor, I'd try to scratch together 2x moonsorrow unique wands, and try to implement Dark arts (dual wield cast speed nodes above witch area on tree) into your spec. I have no idea about cost of stuff on standard league, but at least from when I played active on beyond moonsorrows sold for 1-2 chaos, and a rare lightning wand with stats similar to it could cost up to 1ex.

As for the midnights, if it was me I'd just keep them tucked away, but it's really up to you whether or not you need currency badly.

EDIT: Dreamhack CS stream keeps crashing so I felt like typing a bit more :D
I have never actually started of from scratch in a perm league with arc before, and looking at your build you have 87 points spent. If you could somehow respec into something like + Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37DfioIQB6UC40myLJwRLRBYfIN2Ec365Oy4kzI06-4fAprgKPrVgQQHRZ2Cx4Vt6-SD21NS-egk2F8qVcY6WKyYEQ9-r0wtjRkUsET74BKCHjvj2V_bC8HziijdjJUgoqNkCWsXf8a86hGWL53AVA5IBx4W82pDCPRd8pUuJjxtGX4z8NWkkUlRE56MNnOz5RlVS_BrtDhh4hXn-_UmlZeXFr9FfA==
and get 2x moonsorrow wands, I feel like you will be on a very good start. The tldr on the spec compared to yours is slightly less hp, less mana due to es, 60%ish more cast speed, 120%ish more lightning spell damage.

Arc used to have the unique geofri helmet as core since it scales so well with levels, but with spell echo in the game I feel like additional links are so good. As such I'd much rather save the currency, and make a goal for a 5link Cloak of Defiance. (I hate gambling and would buy it already 5linked, but it's up to you if you want to yolo) Then changing auras into clarity, purity of lightning and herald of thunder. If you get rings/amulets with %mana regen you won't need discipline to sustain arctic armour. Cloak of defiance also gives huge amount of mana regen.
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 18:57:07
November 27 2014 18:52 GMT
#17054
well lets jsut say my gear could be better

I am still running around with a blue wand that I rolled +50% spell damage and +22% fire dmg on and 17% base spell damage bonus. guess that is the game telling me I should have picked flame blast instead

thanks for the skill tree I'll try to salvage what I can from mine ^_^
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 21:54:47
November 27 2014 21:53 GMT
#17055
Afaik a 5L chest is less dmg with Arc than a 4L Geofri's Crest helmet, and by quite a bit even. So I'd rather get that first, unless you really don't wanna use it. I used to have a 6L chest with my Arcer, and the dmg was not much better than Geofri's, except for much higher mana cost. But I also didn't have Empower. +1 level on all 4 gems beats having another gem. Though if you play crit, that might chance quite a bit.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
November 27 2014 22:05 GMT
#17056
Fuck im so psyched for the 12th! I played about 1 month of Beyond league, and frankly didn't enjoy it at all. Was just annoying as fuck, so i stopped playing. But im ready to jump back in and i cant wait!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 27 2014 23:47 GMT
#17057
On November 28 2014 03:52 Skilledblob wrote:
well lets jsut say my gear could be better

I am still running around with a blue wand that I rolled +50% spell damage and +22% fire dmg on and 17% base spell damage bonus. guess that is the game telling me I should have picked flame blast instead

thanks for the skill tree I'll try to salvage what I can from mine ^_^


get a moonsorrow until u can get an imba wand.
pledge of hands or that new 7L lightning staff with penetration would be better if you can ditch a shield
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 28 2014 10:50 GMT
#17058
anyone doing one week race? what builds this time
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
November 28 2014 12:01 GMT
#17059
Block ball lightning for me I guess. Sth simple and easy to gear.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 28 2014 12:44 GMT
#17060
On November 28 2014 21:01 vndestiny wrote:
Block ball lightning for me I guess. Sth simple and easy to gear.


Hc I guess? Kinda hate those beyonders though, they can be quite tedious early game without twink gear. Rampage bonus won't do much to help that.
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