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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
*On hardcore btw http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAAnEDlgSzEZYUTRUgFy8ZhRo4Gj4abBzcHaokPCSLJKoksCcvJ6kn7SkuKU8ppSpNLOkt0i9vMZ41kjbpOtg64TsoPC09Dz38PydGcUlRSn1KyE3jTipUSVXWVw1YY1pSWm1br1v0Xz9gQ2TnZ6BqHmwWbj1uqnC7cql8uHy7fNl_xoCkgwmD24bRh3aI8YzPkFWRzpMnm12fPqIAplenXKeEqBiomqyqtAy18rc-u-28n8T2xYrGrsbYznHSIdkT3Q3hiONq45_kIuw47w7wH_F28azyL_JF8pf2SPcy97760vxL_MX-Cv6P | ||
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
On March 05 2014 22:32 solidbebe wrote: Hows this for a scion with blood magic spectral throw. Enduring cry with 5 charges and conduit, and stacking auras. *On hardcore btw http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAAnEDlgSzEZYUTRUgFy8ZhRo4Gj4abBzcHaokPCSLJKoksCcvJ6kn7SkuKU8ppSpNLOkt0i9vMZ41kjbpOtg64TsoPC09Dz38PydGcUlRSn1KyE3jTipUSVXWVw1YY1pSWm1br1v0Xz9gQ2TnZ6BqHmwWbj1uqnC7cql8uHy7fNl_xoCkgwmD24bRh3aI8YzPkFWRzpMnm12fPqIAplenXKeEqBiomqyqtAy18rc-u-28n8T2xYrGrsbYznHSIdkT3Q3hiONq45_kIuw47w7wH_F28azyL_JF8pf2SPcy97760vxL_MX-Cv6P You made a level 100 tree? | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
Well I went a little happy on point spending. The general idea should be this  . This is problaby what Id wanna get: http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAAnEDlgSzEZYUTRUgFy8ZhRo4Gmwc3B2qJIskqiSwJ-0pTymlKk0s6S3SL28xnjWSNuk62DrhOyg8LT0PPydGcUp9SshN404qVdZXDVpSW69b9GBDZOdnoGwWbj1uqnC7cql8u3zZf8aApIMJg9uG0Yd2iPGQVZHOkyebXZ8-ogCmV6eEqJqsqrQMtfK3PrvtxPbFisauznHSIdkT3Q3hiONq5CLsOPAf8XbyRfKX9zL3vvrS_Ev8xf4K_o8= | ||
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On March 05 2014 22:46 solidbebe wrote: Well I went a little happy on point spending. The general idea should be this . This is problaby what Id wanna get: http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAAnEDlgSzEZYUTRUgFy8ZhRo4Gmwc3B2qJIskqiSwJ-0pTymlKk0s6S3SL28xnjWSNuk62DrhOyg8LT0PPydGcUp9SshN404qVdZXDVpSW69b9GBDZOdnoGwWbj1uqnC7cql8u3zZf8aApIMJg9uG0Yd2iPGQVZHOkyebXZ8-ogCmV6eEqJqsqrQMtfK3PrvtxPbFisauznHSIdkT3Q3hiONq5CLsOPAf8XbyRfKX9zL3vvrS_Ev8xf4K_o8= why not spend rest on blood magic and iron grip? | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On March 05 2014 22:56 MrTortoise wrote: why not spend rest on blood magic and iron grip? You cant reserve your mana anymore when you get blood magic right? | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3452 Posts
Anyone can help me critic these 2, one from Scion and one from Templar. Main idea is ele crit wander, using wrath +anger, crit proliferation triple shock stack for dps, EB and Cloak of Defiance for defense. I cant decide which is one better. Tree at lvl 87. Both is extremely stretch for life and dps though. Oh and ofc Ambush sc for me. For Scion + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGc7KJM6A5a9J249GDxgQ_nogwmCx0Zxb54o-uGIykrr7h2qwzq4k3qqm7VWLacIDH2a4FM1GYqsf52u2CSPRhB_bWz7CRpsNsXQ0MaetUj22uQiGYXz3dsCz2VtexqPKU8kqtMbVcZVS4V97DiCmzbpeM6MNiaVV-LjavrSP3NQQnflMokXL6IuBLNk54bRDkgUTfAfAnFV1iSwEZbjhJ2qogCApJ2jcLt_xsBRY0NirPyr2ROioyep8-rWnS9vwfNabXBSgh4kPNsLp1xJUQ== For Templar + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmyFfew4gpudrhmF890aOFfipwgkqqeEd-UyibiT2CSPRjbpkFUEswx9NsXQ0ONq-tIUTfAfAnEQfx8C2wLPZRcvogDGngQH0xtVxmTnhtFMs3jOVdYksC0fUDA_c4CkbRnbXsHz6-Sio4IeXyp_xtsLEZadow5IcLv8q-OEnaqiLtkTwFFjQ1BCL2_z6ow2cFJVSyaVbXu1SG1sUzWbtcM6GYrKSlYt-wlvnqx_9tqDCRqPRnHhiB2qYqzWnQ== Basically Templar has a lot more ele dmg, but lesser in attack speed. Scion will also has higher mana/mana regen available and higher life pool. On March 05 2014 23:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: So about SB. As far as I know it requires very Little gear and gives lots of options for your skill tree. Do you think it's possible to run a low life SB Build to make wondertrap work ( in sc )? Searing Bond can't leech and required some tanking, so I'm not sure it's doable w/o Shav | ||
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Boske
20 Posts
On March 05 2014 22:46 solidbebe wrote: Well I went a little happy on point spending. The general idea should be this . This is problaby what Id wanna get: http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgAAAnEDlgSzEZYUTRUgFy8ZhRo4Gmwc3B2qJIskqiSwJ-0pTymlKk0s6S3SL28xnjWSNuk62DrhOyg8LT0PPydGcUp9SshN404qVdZXDVpSW69b9GBDZOdnoGwWbj1uqnC7cql8u3zZf8aApIMJg9uG0Yd2iPGQVZHOkyebXZ8-ogCmV6eEqJqsqrQMtfK3PrvtxPbFisauznHSIdkT3Q3hiONq5CLsOPAf8XbyRfKX9zL3vvrS_Ev8xf4K_o8= Hmm, I'd consider this to be on the low side of HP for HC. The damage I would imagine would be way too low. I think you're going for too many things at once, with all the charges and aura nodes all over the tree eating up too many points. something like this : http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgEAAecFLQbuCZYQ8BLhFCAYkRjbGlUhYCP2JJsnICcvKaUxnjGwMgk0NTWSNug9_ECgQXRHfkp9TeNOKlBHVvpXDVhjWK9aSFuvXz9gS2EhYxdko2VNZ6BqHmxGbmlybHK7dO108XYreA1673z1gIqE2YTvh2qHdojxiiKMz5Bskc6XcJ65oW2j56SsplenMKgYqW6plK-itfK5zbyfvqfAD8CmwPPBBMEHxtjL9dIh0k3UUtd-3Q3jn-cP6wnuDu8O7_DyL_ZI9033vvyJ_MX-jw== I'd imagine would work much better , way more damage, a bit more health, but no aura nodes. (sword version, axes should be similar) RT should not be needed since you get some accuracy nodes and you should be able to hit fine once you get 1 piece of gear with decent accuracy. (You can spec RT early until that point since it's close anyway) Edit: whops linked the wrong build Edit 2: I just realized you might be going for an Ele build with all the auras, oh well, guess I'll leave this here anyway. | ||
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
Some things im considering are: ~CI phys cyclone. ~EA marauder/scion - but im worried i might get bored since i already played this to 90. ~Searing bond - might not be enough dps ~max strength FP marauder - also worried it might not be enough dps. ~RF - I dont like how picky you have to be about map mods, but I love that you can run a ton of curses for parties. ~Dual Wield crit max block Ungils Gauche CI dual strike - Crazy idea i was thinking about, probably isnt viable. ~Flameblast? Basically I want to play a reasonably tanky build with high dps that can deal with reflect, probably a caster or melee (bows just seem bad right now asides from EA.) but im worried melee might not be that good of an option now that Vaal Pact and Aegis were just nerfed. Not sure what the best way to build a caster for dps. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On March 05 2014 22:59 solidbebe wrote: You cant reserve your mana anymore when you get blood magic right? i have no idea .. that would explain it though  | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On March 05 2014 23:24 vndestiny wrote: Hm apparently one can paste a link into the build link section of the offline tree -> load build then viola. Anyone can help me critic these 2, one from Scion and one from Templar. Main idea is ele crit wander, using wrath +anger, crit proliferation triple shock stack for dps, EB and Cloak of Defiance for defense. I cant decide which is one better. Tree at lvl 87. Both is extremely stretch for life and dps though. Oh and ofc Ambush sc for me. For Scion + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAACGc7KJM6A5a9J249GDxgQ_nogwmCx0Zxb54o-uGIykrr7h2qwzq4k3qqm7VWLacIDH2a4FM1GYqsf52u2CSPRhB_bWz7CRpsNsXQ0MaetUj22uQiGYXz3dsCz2VtexqPKU8kqtMbVcZVS4V97DiCmzbpeM6MNiaVV-LjavrSP3NQQnflMokXL6IuBLNk54bRDkgUTfAfAnFV1iSwEZbjhJ2qogCApJ2jcLt_xsBRY0NirPyr2ROioyep8-rWnS9vwfNabXBSgh4kPNsLp1xJUQ== For Templar + Show Spoiler + http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113GtQTkIilPGmyFfew4gpudrhmF890aOFfipwgkqqeEd-UyibiT2CSPRjbpkFUEswx9NsXQ0ONq-tIUTfAfAnEQfx8C2wLPZRcvogDGngQH0xtVxmTnhtFMs3jOVdYksC0fUDA_c4CkbRnbXsHz6-Sio4IeXyp_xtsLEZadow5IcLv8q-OEnaqiLtkTwFFjQ1BCL2_z6ow2cFJVSyaVbXu1SG1sUzWbtcM6GYrKSlYt-wlvnqx_9tqDCRqPRnHhiB2qYqzWnQ== Basically Templar has a lot more ele dmg, but lesser in attack speed. Scion will also has higher mana/mana regen available and higher life pool. Searing Bond can't leech and required some tanking, so I'm not sure it's doable w/o Shav on the templar one why arnt you taking static blows? bit of a nub so probably an obvious answer yet again ;p also arnt you going to be a bit glass cannon? Is this for hc? I like the ideas though i was trying to do something similar with my last build but going lightening specifically - didnt really work out early game though i ended up using minions and ice nova lol. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
You can't wander till u got a wand usually which means level 60 unless u have a random low level one. Although Ele wander is easier cuz ur actual wand doesn't need much on it if ur relying on auras for ur ele dmg. But wanders have mana and accuracy issues, among other things as well. Wish PoEbuilder wasn't so awful so that I could actually use a web-based builder. | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
I'm unsure if I should really take Vaal Pact. I think I have enough dex but I don't remember the numbers I needed, I might need 33 more. I don't know if I can adapt this to use EB because I prefer to not have to use BM gems. I didn't want to use RT since it would reduce the chance for additional shock stacks if I use LA. Although RT could be safer. http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgUABLMFWwixDjwUTRUgGYUaOBpsJKoo-ilPKaUqOCpNLOkt0jIJMn4yiTWSNug26TpSOtg_Jz_8QYdFnUbXSn1KyE3YTipVxlb6V-JYr1pSW69dxl-qY6dnoGe9bBZsRm6qcmxyw3Phd-V4DXqqgpuCx4PbhymHdojxi4yMdo9GkFWa4Jtdm6Gdrp_LogCnCKeEqJqpbqsLtQS18rc-uJPMBs5xz2XQ0Nrd3Q3dRuFz42rkIuhm6-7sOO0g7m_yl_Pd94j56PxL_E78xf4K | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I don't think the scion start nodes are good, if you want proj damage consider going to duelist start via fury bolts (you get a TON of attack speed that way). Note that 8% wed nodes are strictly worse than 8% proj dmg nodes. All the wed nodes on the tree except catalyze are kinda garbage tbh. New templar start pure ele nodes are godly though. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On March 05 2014 23:36 Boske wrote: Hmm, I'd consider this to be on the low side of HP for HC. The damage I would imagine would be way too low. I think you're going for too many things at once, with all the charges and aura nodes all over the tree eating up too many points. something like this : http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgEAAecFLQbuCZYQ8BLhFCAYkRjbGlUhYCP2JJsnICcvKaUxnjGwMgk0NTWSNug9_ECgQXRHfkp9TeNOKlBHVvpXDVhjWK9aSFuvXz9gS2EhYxdko2VNZ6BqHmxGbmlybHK7dO108XYreA1673z1gIqE2YTvh2qHdojxiiKMz5Bskc6XcJ65oW2j56SsplenMKgYqW6plK-itfK5zbyfvqfAD8CmwPPBBMEHxtjL9dIh0k3UUtd-3Q3jn-cP6wnuDu8O7_DyL_ZI9033vvyJ_MX-jw== I'd imagine would work much better , way more damage, a bit more health, but no aura nodes. (sword version, axes should be similar) RT should not be needed since you get some accuracy nodes and you should be able to hit fine once you get 1 piece of gear with decent accuracy. (You can spec RT early until that point since it's close anyway) Edit: whops linked the wrong build Edit 2: I just realized you might be going for an Ele build with all the auras, oh well, guess I'll leave this here anyway. Hmm this is definitely an interesting build. I'm not sure what Im gonna do yet but Ill take this into consideration. Thanks for the help  ! | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
On March 06 2014 01:18 Sn0_Man wrote: I don't think you even want iron grip very much lol considering it only affects phys. At which point all of that journey to unwavering looks mildly sketchy. I don't think the scion start nodes are good, if you want proj damage consider going to duelist start via fury bolts (you get a TON of attack speed that way). Note that 8% wed nodes are strictly worse than 8% proj dmg nodes. All the wed nodes on the tree except catalyze are kinda garbage tbh. New templar start pure ele nodes are godly though. Oh yeah, I totally forgot that iron grip has always been strictly phys increase. I also forgot about how good the duelist tree is for Proj damage. Going through the duelist tree is a huge DPS increase for sure. Also helps with Dex a lot more. US is so good though.. 4 points to get to it seems worth it to me, but for now I'm keeping it off. http://poebuilder.com/#character/AAAAAgUABLMFWwixFE0VIBmFGbQaOBpsJKoo-ilPKaUqOCpNLOkt0jIJMok1kjbpOtg_Jz_8QYdFnUbXSn1KyE3YTipVxlfiWK9br13GZ6BnvWwWbEZuqnJscsN35XgNeqqCm4LHg9uHKYd2iPGLjIx2jX6PRpBVmuCboZ2uogCnCKeEqW6rC7UEtfK3Pre2uJO-p8rTzAbNmM5xz2XQ0Nrd3Q3exuFz42rkIuhm6mLr7uw47SDub_Pd-ej6sfxL_MX-Cg== | ||
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