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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#8721
On June 12 2013 03:22 S_SienZ wrote:
Hi guys,

Coming back to PoE in a few days when finals are over. Put together a build here, was wondering if people could drop some pointers and opinions.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMABAcFtQdjDH0OrRB7EH8RLREvFHUV1xZAGjIdFB6BHwIn7SjFKU8ppSo4KwosnCy_LR8wfDrYPC1DY0cGS41MNUyzTdhQMFFHUWBWY1crWPVZ8176XypfamNDZk9mnme9bRlwUnFNdEF313q4fIN_K4FJgW-CHoP3hX2GrohCiGuMdo2_jr6PRo_6ksGYrZmams-boZ3EnjynCKmVrKquk7I4tMW297cxtz64k746wBrAUcEAwcXB88Lsw23E9saexq7N-tDQ14bbGtte2-ffsOOE5oHrY-vk7BjsOO5v8h3y4fO-893z6vVL-tL8q_8c

Plan is to go for Void Battery + Aegis Aurora, with a single Spark totem for EE. Maybe FP for main offence.

Step 1: Drop elemental equilibrium unless traps are basically your main source of damage
Step 2: Don't plan to allocate 120 skill points: nobody in the history of the game has in-game achieved 120 skill points (the only person to hit level 100 was not a retard and opted for some bandit rewards that weren't skill points). 100 is plenty unless you plan on putting in a TON of hours.
Step 3: Travel more efficiently on the tree. As the other guy said you have a billion unnecessary int nodes. Also some sweet Energy Shield nodes are being skipped (right near the start of the witch tree).

PS: iron reflexes is only the greediest thing in history lol. I do get why you want it though. I think it may actually be more valuable to go for Unwavering stance though since if you play in the new leagues you can't get an eye of chayula (for stun immunity). Or both but I'm not sure where you get those points lol.

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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
June 11 2013 20:44 GMT
#8722
I'm working on the CI Claw Cyclone build Kripp posted about in Onslaught. I'm spending 19-22 points on HP nodes, depending on my Regret situation until I can get CI. I have a few questions:

1) When should I think about going CI? Currently, it seems it won't be an option until I get close to Maps, or at least until I finish the Merciless Bust quest.
2) What should my links to Cyclone be? I'm thinking of Melee Physical > Melee Damage on Full Life > Added Fire Damage > Faster Attacks > Increased AoE/Weapon Elemental, in that order. I really have no idea, as I've never played melee physical DPS before, much less CI.
3) What should my single target attack be? I really have no idea on this one. Speaking of attack, when shoul I transition to Cyclone? Currently, I'm just leveling as Cleave/Dual Strike.
4) What should my other gems be? I'm thinking of using Grace/Discipline/Purity and whatever else I can squeeze in. As for everything else, I will use Blood Rage and possibly 2 Bear Traps with Added Fire and Culling Strike. Hm, what else? Leap Slam and Enduring Cry for support? Immortal Call? Bleh.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 20:58:59
June 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#8723
I skipped the ES nodes near the witch tree since I already have about 230% ES with the build, and felt that Body and Soul / Nullification nodes gave me better value per skill point.

Iron Reflexes was necessary for an Aegis Aurora build to be good imo, build is basically crazy high armour.

I didn't want too many damage nodes to be able to deal with reflect, which is why I went all out for crit chance with no crit multiplier points, the crits were mostly for elemental ailments. Also the INT route was shorter.

Lots of INT out of necessity of travelling to nodes + bonuses to mana and ES, did some math and I'd be pretty mana starved with this build.

I think reaching lvl 90 shouldn't be a problem for me, assuming the build works and I don't die much. I'm graduating and can't work yet since I need a year long programme to get my lawyer's practice cert which is piss easy so it's basically a year off. Used to put in 15 hours a day easily when I played MMOs. Plan on playing Anarchy so Chayula is not an option.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#8724
Happy birthday GaryOak !

1) Yeah probably end of Cruel or Merciless when your gear can handle it. I'd keep regrets handy incase you can't make it work.
2) Weapon Elemental Damage, Added FIre Damage, then either Life on Hit or Life Leech and lastly Faster Attacks.
3) I'm using the same, DS. Just link it with all the above, and maybe have Frenzy to buff you then back to DS.
4) No clue...can you link to the CI Claw Cyclone build?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 21:10:03
June 11 2013 21:02 GMT
#8725
okay but the ES nodes were MORE EFFICIENT TRAVEL than the int nodes (lmao).

Level 90 is ~109 skill points assuming you are taking the power charge bonus from bandits (with void battery you'd be a fool not to).

PS: @Gary Oak the traditional time to go CI is act 2 merciless. Get to act 2, run straight to fellshrine and grind grind grind until you have the gear and levels required to spec into CI. Reason being there is chaos damage in (other parts of) act 2 that most on-their-way-to-CI builds can't handle.

2nd Edit: I think recommended is like 3.5K energy shield. So run the numbers to figure out when you will have that (based on what ES gear you have and what % ES you will be able to spec into) and keep grinding until you can either spec into more ES or can afford to buy better ES gear Anarchy is whatever but Onslaught is ALWAYS better safe than sorry.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 21:09:29
June 11 2013 21:07 GMT
#8726
On June 12 2013 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
okay but the ES nodes were MORE EFFICIENT TRAVEL than the int nodes (lmao).

Level 90 is ~109 skill points assuming you are taking the power charge bonus from bandits (with void battery you'd be a fool not to).

PS: @Gary Oak the traditional time to go CI is act 2 merciless. Get to act 2, run straight to fellshrine and grind grind grind until you have the gear and levels required to spec into CI. Reason being there is chaos damage in (other parts of) act 2 that most on-their-way-to-CI builds can't handle.

LOL snap just rechecked and the first 10% ES node I just saw the 10% and assumed it was ES recovery XD

It was originally more efficient coz I took the mana nodes slightly later.

Hmm I'll rethink this. I'll plan it around 109 skillpoints, and hopefully it will work.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 21:46:59
June 11 2013 21:44 GMT
#8727
On June 12 2013 06:00 Slardar wrote:
Happy birthday GaryOak !

1) Yeah probably end of Cruel or Merciless when your gear can handle it. I'd keep regrets handy incase you can't make it work.
2) Weapon Elemental Damage, Added FIre Damage, then either Life on Hit or Life Leech and lastly Faster Attacks.
3) I'm using the same, DS. Just link it with all the above, and maybe have Frenzy to buff you then back to DS.
4) No clue...can you link to the CI Claw Cyclone build?

Thank you! <3

Part of the point is to not need a Life Leech gem, I think.
Phase 1, pre-CI.
Phase 2.

Also, what are good gear levels I should reach before considering transitioning?
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#8728
just got my first onslaught exalt!
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 22:05:53
June 11 2013 21:58 GMT
#8729
On June 12 2013 06:44 Gary Oak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 06:00 Slardar wrote:
Happy birthday GaryOak !

1) Yeah probably end of Cruel or Merciless when your gear can handle it. I'd keep regrets handy incase you can't make it work.
2) Weapon Elemental Damage, Added FIre Damage, then either Life on Hit or Life Leech and lastly Faster Attacks.
3) I'm using the same, DS. Just link it with all the above, and maybe have Frenzy to buff you then back to DS.
4) No clue...can you link to the CI Claw Cyclone build?

Thank you! <3

Part of the point is to not need a Life Leech gem, I think.
Phase 1, pre-CI.
Phase 2.

Also, what are good gear levels I should reach before considering transitioning?


I would try to cut up the left side instead of going around the right towards the center. You lose out on the thick skin node, but your points become better used if you can get away with it. Costs one extra point to go to the left (or the same if you don't want the armor) and it gives you 40str/10 int/52armor instead of 60dex/10str. Not sure how to value accuracy for your build though. The DEX might actually be favorable since you don't get life from the str.

link

You may or may not need 151 STR to use your gems as well. Not sure you're actually intending to use a str gem since cyclone is DEX.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
June 11 2013 23:32 GMT
#8730
Bleh, I already went up the right side. I'm level 40, just past Cruel Brutus (overleveled because I'm doing the full-clear challenge).
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 00:23:03
June 12 2013 00:12 GMT
#8731
On June 12 2013 08:32 Gary Oak wrote:
Bleh, I already went up the right side. I'm level 40, just past Cruel Brutus (overleveled because I'm doing the full-clear challenge).


I don't think it makes enough of a difference to respec it (unless you need the STR, but only determination or vitality should require that much STR). If you're going to do it though, now is the best time because it may be possible to save up most of the points instead of having to spend twice as many regrets later on to build the bridge so you can cut out the other points.

You could also need it for armor I guess, but I suspect you'll be using ES pieces so that won't matter. Claws are DEX/INT so it won't matter for weapons.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
June 12 2013 00:51 GMT
#8732
Yeah, I'm going full on ES once I figure out how to execute this build correctly (in terms of gems, when to transition to Cyclone, etc).
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
June 12 2013 18:36 GMT
#8733
Where is a good place I can see exchange rates for currencies? Since no poeex is apparantly no go
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
June 12 2013 23:11 GMT
#8734
AFAIK http://exilestats.com/ex/ is what everyone uses now.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 13 2013 01:55 GMT
#8735
This is my current skill tree: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAnEDxgSzBS0GDg48Dq0SaRQgFE0UcRccGNsZLhmFGjgaVRpsHRQhYCSqJ-0ppTKJNug26TpSPAVAoEGqQ5xG11BHUFBUSVfiWGNZ81uvXz9gS2EhZKNmnnF5cql07XTxeu982YM4hO-LjIzPkFWYrZ2un9-iAKcwp4SsqrndwBrG2NSP37_hc-Nq51LsOO0g7w7vfPAf8i_2SPcy-Ov60v0L

Im current a level 63 Explosive Arrow Marauder. Clearing large groups of mobs faster than anyone I have played with in groups so far, but I feel like the only reason i'm not dying constantly is because i'm standing behind totems/minions/other players. I'm using Hatred, and have a static 34% phys reduction, and I believe around 65% during granite. All 3 resists are at 75, and I have about 2.5k hp with 100/hp sec. Im planning on mostly picking up more life, maybe a couple reduced mana cost nodes, and possibly some fire damage and Elemental Adaptation.
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
June 13 2013 02:45 GMT
#8736
On June 13 2013 08:11 Tennet wrote:
AFAIK http://exilestats.com/ex/ is what everyone uses now.


Don't trust anything that website says. The values are almost all completely wrong. I have a feeling either nobody votes on the values or there are bots that vote for wrong values. They really need to improve the site to make it easier for everyone to input conversion rates.

Poeex.com is at least pretty accurate. If you use the site but don't buy currency then you will actually make them waste money.
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
June 13 2013 02:49 GMT
#8737
On June 13 2013 10:55 Varanice wrote:
This is my current skill tree: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAnEDxgSzBS0GDg48Dq0SaRQgFE0UcRccGNsZLhmFGjgaVRpsHRQhYCSqJ-0ppTKJNug26TpSPAVAoEGqQ5xG11BHUFBUSVfiWGNZ81uvXz9gS2EhZKNmnnF5cql07XTxeu982YM4hO-LjIzPkFWYrZ2un9-iAKcwp4SsqrndwBrG2NSP37_hc-Nq51LsOO0g7w7vfPAf8i_2SPcy-Ov60v0L

Im current a level 63 Explosive Arrow Marauder. Clearing large groups of mobs faster than anyone I have played with in groups so far, but I feel like the only reason i'm not dying constantly is because i'm standing behind totems/minions/other players. I'm using Hatred, and have a static 34% phys reduction, and I believe around 65% during granite. All 3 resists are at 75, and I have about 2.5k hp with 100/hp sec. Im planning on mostly picking up more life, maybe a couple reduced mana cost nodes, and possibly some fire damage and Elemental Adaptation.


Why are you using hatred? Wouldn't that reduce your health since you are BM?

I know I normally play hardcore, but EA can have unstoppable damage even with high health. You should try to get 4.5k health by getting 80-100 health on every item. If you don't have high health and high resists you will die nonstop to reflect.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 05:16:35
June 13 2013 04:48 GMT
#8738
On June 13 2013 11:49 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:55 Varanice wrote:
This is my current skill tree: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAnEDxgSzBS0GDg48Dq0SaRQgFE0UcRccGNsZLhmFGjgaVRpsHRQhYCSqJ-0ppTKJNug26TpSPAVAoEGqQ5xG11BHUFBUSVfiWGNZ81uvXz9gS2EhZKNmnnF5cql07XTxeu982YM4hO-LjIzPkFWYrZ2un9-iAKcwp4SsqrndwBrG2NSP37_hc-Nq51LsOO0g7w7vfPAf8i_2SPcy-Ov60v0L

Im current a level 63 Explosive Arrow Marauder. Clearing large groups of mobs faster than anyone I have played with in groups so far, but I feel like the only reason i'm not dying constantly is because i'm standing behind totems/minions/other players. I'm using Hatred, and have a static 34% phys reduction, and I believe around 65% during granite. All 3 resists are at 75, and I have about 2.5k hp with 100/hp sec. Im planning on mostly picking up more life, maybe a couple reduced mana cost nodes, and possibly some fire damage and Elemental Adaptation.


Why are you using hatred? Wouldn't that reduce your health since you are BM?

I know I normally play hardcore, but EA can have unstoppable damage even with high health. You should try to get 4.5k health by getting 80-100 health on every item. If you don't have high health and high resists you will die nonstop to reflect.

Oh im sorry. I have no clue why I said Hatred, I ment to say Grace. LOL
Because it takes my physical reduction from 20% to 34%, and it only costs about 90 life.

Edit: Yeah, asides from Piety, the only time I've died since I transitioned to EA was to a rare mob that was granting the skeletons around it reflect and I instakilled myself from full hp on detonation, was really funny looking in retrospect though, Lol.

Edit2: Fixing some grammars.
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Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 13 2013 11:36 GMT
#8739
Can someone tell me which supportgems you usually use for frenzy and splitarrow (full physical ranger)?
incifan
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
June 13 2013 12:53 GMT
#8740
Im currently running Added Fire, Faster Attacks for both and also Pierce for Split Arrow.
Feel free to add in +X elemental/chaos dmg/weapon elemental/increased crit for your 5 or 6 link depending on the rest of your gear setup or available quality gems.
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