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On April 24 2013 22:01 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 20:08 RoieTRS wrote:
D3 has a polished. It feels good to control. Compared to d3, poe is lacking. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue otherwise. Indeed, that's what made D3 instill that glimmer of hope in you that this would live up to D2 expectations. The first play through was great. Beautiful cinematics, gameplay felt right then it all came crashing down. Hopefully one day PoE will get the control to D3 Level.
Is this about animation cancelling or some kind of bugs? I find it odd that you say that control enhancements were the one thing D3 has over PoE which makes it possible to live up to D2, considering that PoE's control is more like D2's.
Also, I'm pretty sure the post you're responding to is a troll post. So many people have argued so reasonably about why Diablo 3 died before it got off the ground that it's almost laughably ridiculous to say that nobody can argue against D3.
See, look - I did it just a few months after it came out here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=355456
I've been playing PoE for about the same length of time now, and I look forward to playing it when I get home.
People can make reasonable counterarguments in favor of D3, sure. But to say that no one can "reasonably argue" that PoE is not lacking compared to D3 is like going into message boards about movies and posting something like this:
"I'm so glad Star Wars Episode 1-3 finally redeemed the Star Wars series from the wanting graphics of the original Star Wars trilogy. Compared to the new movies, the old ones are lacking. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue otherwise."
Either the person posting that has his head firmly planted in the ground, or he's just trying to enrage someone into mouthing off at him. My guess is the latter.
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Just started playing this yesterday, having a great time so far! Managed to get my witch to level 28 before dying and getting thrown down to Default League... Since I'm a huge roguelike-fan it wasn't an overly harsh experience, but it still stung a bit. Anyway please add me to the list 
Account: SongByongGo -- lvl 29 Witch
Build: Ethereal Knives Strenght Tank + Show Spoiler +http://www.exilepro.com/builds/witch/501-witch-ethereal-knives-strength-tank
Softcore/Hardcore: Softcore 
Other: I'm in the GMT+1 timezone, playing in the evenings on weekdays, and sporadically on weekends. I'll probably make mostly hardcore characters. Also I have Skype.
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On April 25 2013 01:39 Treehead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 22:01 Slardar wrote:On April 24 2013 20:08 RoieTRS wrote:
D3 has a polished. It feels good to control. Compared to d3, poe is lacking. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue otherwise. Indeed, that's what made D3 instill that glimmer of hope in you that this would live up to D2 expectations. The first play through was great. Beautiful cinematics, gameplay felt right then it all came crashing down. Hopefully one day PoE will get the control to D3 Level. Is this about animation cancelling or some kind of bugs? I find it odd that you say that control enhancements were the one thing D3 has over PoE which makes it possible to live up to D2, considering that PoE's control is more like D2's. Also, I'm pretty sure the post you're responding to is a troll post. So many people have argued so reasonably about why Diablo 3 died before it got off the ground that it's almost laughably ridiculous to say that nobody can argue against D3. See, look - I did it just a few months after it came out here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=355456I've been playing PoE for about the same length of time now, and I look forward to playing it when I get home. People can make reasonable counterarguments in favor of D3, sure. But to say that no one can "reasonably argue" that PoE is not lacking compared to D3 is like going into message boards about movies and posting something like this: "I'm so glad Star Wars Episode 1-3 finally redeemed the Star Wars series from the wanting graphics of the original Star Wars trilogy. Compared to the new movies, the old ones are lacking. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue otherwise." Either the person posting that has his head firmly planted in the ground, or he's just trying to enrage someone into mouthing off at him. My guess is the latter.
I feel like you are taking one line of his post completely out of context and then ranting about how much you hate D3 for a couple paragraphs. When he said "Compared to d3, poe is lacking." it is inferred he is talking with regard to control and how it "feels better".
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Yes....precisely what Warmonger said, that is how I took it as well. It feels more fluid and "right" but that's about all that D3 has going for it.
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Nobody has answered the first line of the post yet, though - which is this: what about the control feels "bad"? Is it the lack of animation cancelling?
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The rampant amount of desync and empty swings is what does it for me.
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In addition, the amount of invisible or tiny terrain doodads and doorways that block all projectiles are very off-putting for me. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the game and their ideas (especially the crafting system and endgame maps imo) but as far as controls and polish go there is no way PoE compares to D3.
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The /oos command can help a lot with desync, provided you don't spam it. This link can help you set up a script for convenience. I have mine bound to F5.
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Could I get a ballpark price check? I'm on SC.
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Lowish rolls, but all the right stats.
I don't know precisely how much, but it's in the multiple exalted range.
Like 1-2 exalted, maybe more, I think.
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On April 25 2013 06:23 yamato77 wrote:
Lowish rolls, but all the right stats.
I don't know precisely how much, but it's in the multiple exalted range.
Really?
I'd say its sub-exalted and that's if it was HC. Sure chaos is nice (if low) but the fire resist is in the "not worth mentioning" range, the life is barely wearable, and its not even 4-linked or 5/6 socket. The evasion is really nice for a 45 item, but its a 45 item...
I don't think I'd pay more than ~6 chaos for it if it was hardcore, to be more precise.
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Someone would need to spend about 4 exalted to get that thing 5linked. For that money they could actually buy a good one prerolled. Thus it will only be used as 4link max. Taking that into consideration a few chaos at max. You could just 4link it and use it for lvling, although even for that you should have a lowlvl 5linked chest around that lvl.
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I've bought items like that for a chaos or two without trying; not sure if master scammer or you all just overprice good. It's great for a player entering merciless, but the rolls are too low and it is lacking links to make it live past the entry level mapping.
On April 25 2013 06:33 Marradron wrote:
Someone would need to spend about 4 exalted to get that thing 5linked. For that money they could actually buy a good one prerolled. Thus it will only be used as 4link max. Taking that into consideration a few chaos at max. You could just 4link it and use it for lvling, although even for that you should have a lowlvl 5linked chest around that lvl.
Links are incredibly overrated for leveling up. If you're buying any sort of damage (aka weapon) on a proper build you're going to be one shotting practically everything regardless. It is indeed a very good leveling piece or just as a pickup for a character entering merciless.
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Ok. And btw, it is not a 45 item, its 68 or so. Not worth much unless I reroll values and get more sockets, then, I take it. I was thinking that it has 6 suffixes one would want, so you could just divine orb it.
Rolled it to a 6S, but with 2L x2.
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If that's what my chest is supposed to look like when entering merciless, I'm boned.
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Default economy is boned right now, since Default is the dumping ground of every other league's deaths, has very little currency sink since most people aren't willing to spend on their mapping (I've spent 30+ exalteds on my maps so far and I'm only level 88). Chaos being 40:1 exalted, fusings trading at 90:1 exalted, it's all just fucked. I'm just waiting to play the month-long race, which will be long enough to feel like making a "real" character in a "new" economy.
For reference, here's an armor I've got
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Bought that for like 8 exalt way back in the day, can't move it for even 1-2 exalt now. Very good items are just so common after a few months.
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On April 25 2013 06:43 shabby wrote:
Ok. And btw, it is not a 45 item, its 68 or so. Not worth much unless I reroll values and get more sockets, then, I take it. I was thinking that it has 6 suffixes one would want, so you could just divine orb it.
Once a roll is in a bracket it stays in the bracket. the fireroll can never be high.
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On April 25 2013 06:52 Marradron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:43 shabby wrote:
Ok. And btw, it is not a 45 item, its 68 or so. Not worth much unless I reroll values and get more sockets, then, I take it. I was thinking that it has 6 suffixes one would want, so you could just divine orb it. Once a roll is in a bracket it stays in the bracket. the fireroll can never be high.
Ah, ok. Are the other 5 in OK brackets?
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http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/prefixmod
and
http://www.pathofexile.com/item-data/suffixmod
You can find the brackets there.
The life is bad, cold is good but not good I think, Chaos is OK Evasion is godly, Evasion % is decent.
I get that its an ilvl 68 but the base item is lvl 45 so its never gonna be all that insane (just not enough base evasion, for one thing).
EDIT: Divining that would be a disaster lol, you are very very near the top of your evasion bracket and could lose 170 BASE evasion (times the multiplier) from that roll alone. Cold would likely improve, chaos could go either way. Life wont go up enough to matter. Besides which the item isn't worth a divine (although I don't know what SC divines are worth).
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On April 25 2013 06:57 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 06:52 Marradron wrote:On April 25 2013 06:43 shabby wrote:
Ok. And btw, it is not a 45 item, its 68 or so. Not worth much unless I reroll values and get more sockets, then, I take it. I was thinking that it has 6 suffixes one would want, so you could just divine orb it. Once a roll is in a bracket it stays in the bracket. the fireroll can never be high. Ah, ok. Are the other 5 in OK brackets?
You can find the brackets on the pathofexile site. The brackets are however quite small, divining would at max give a small upgrade, and if the rolls are on the high end already it might only make it worse. You basically have these options.
-6socked it. Attempt to 5link it (expected cost around 3-5 exalted). You might get lucky and only spent a few orbs. But even 5linked it will only be worth a few exalted.
-Sell it as it is. It might get you several chaos orbs
-4link and use it for leveling yourself.
(mostly based on HC economy)
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