Path of Exile - Page 1650

On April 17 2021 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:

While that sounds plausible, it's doubtful. And yes, it's worse than ever. Do not try to play unless you are fine with basically no progress being saved at all.

On April 17 2021 17:20 nukem1 wrote:
An update from Chris https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/msmty4/ultimatum_launch_server_issues_and_streamer/

On April 17 2021 10:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


It wouldn't surprise me if someone at GGG said this during a meeting.

On April 17 2021 17:58 Miragee wrote:


Yeah I was joking but tbh people go to extreme measures these days.




This is a good post. No deflecting the blame here like other big companies would.

On April 17 2021 18:45 Gorsameth wrote:
I mean it was their emergency solution taken as soon as they discovered that the queue was not working as it should.

So yes, the assumption that they were ready for this eventuality is entirely reasonable to make.

The problem is that you can probably go back and find a dozen of these well written, we take the blame posts.

There is only so many times you can say your sorry and will do better in the future without actually doing that much better.

On April 17 2021 19:05 Miragee wrote:


Well, yes and no. It's more of an up and down and different things that go wrong, which people convolute. For example, people are already making jokes how this is similar to Heist launch but even worse when the problem with Heist launch was the mechanic itself and the technical side was smooth? At least that's what I heard before. Also, most major game releases and patches, regardless of company or game, seem to have major technical issues. The "never play on patch day" phrase is over a decade old. I don't think it's that simple. The only game I ever played which was incredibly smooth and basically never had down times was the original GW. I'm not sure how they do it but iirc they released a stat a few year ago that showed the total server down time to be less than 50 hours since 2005.

Anyways, I also don't want to excuse this. It's definitely a problem with the industry. What I personally would like GGG to do is chaging to a 4 month cycle and run events in the 4th month (Endless Delve, Mayhem, BLAMT etc. or do an actual race season again). I think that would smoothen the league starts by a lot.

On April 17 2021 20:10 -Archangel- wrote:
This part of the explanation is hilarious:
"Immediately upon launch of the league, we could see that the queue was running incredibly slowly. At the rate that it was emptying, it'd be at least two hours to get everyone into the game. The reason was that when players logged into their accounts, the server would migrate any previously un-migrated Ritual characters to Standard, which can take quite a lot of time to do on-demand (as much as three or four seconds per character in some cases). Users who had already logged in since Ritual ended were already migrated and were nice and fast. Normally, we run a "trickle migration" process in the background that performs this action on every account over the few days between the last league ending and the new one starting. Due to human error, this process was not run and hence the queue was unbearably slow to empty. (We have since codified this step into a QA checklist so that can't be trivially missed again in the future.)"

And this part shows they are completely disorganized and hilariously incompetent:
"Due to human error, this process was not run and hence the queue was unbearably slow to empty. (We have since codified this step into a QA checklist so that can't be trivially missed again in the future.)"

This is something they should have had years ago, Chris should not have said this openly. They are no longer a indie company doing their first (or fifth) league release, this just shows they need to replace management and hire people that know what they are doing.

On April 17 2021 20:57 Espelz wrote:


Doesnt necessarily mean it was a human trigger, as in "oh, greg forgot to press the migrate character buttons" - human error can also mean "we worked on that part/fixed something around it and accidently removed this trigger/somebody managed to slip an old error back into the code base/ whatever else".
IT errors,also the manual induced ones, can be pretty subtle.
Also, the one thing i really learned by working in IT for a few years is that almost nothing is as clean as "it should be".
Its unfortunate, and maybe (probably) it was avoidable, but i wouldnt point to this one thing he said and conclude that GGG is "completely disorganized and hilariously incompetent".

The clusterfuck of totally random streamer privilige is another story though. Thats were they really fucked up imho,and i'm pretty sure thats what will leave the worse impression in the end.

On April 17 2021 18:45 Gorsameth wrote:
I mean it was their emergency solution taken as soon as they discovered that the queue was not working as it should.

So yes, the assumption that they were ready for this eventuality is entirely reasonable to make.

The problem is that you can probably go back and find a dozen of these well written, we take the blame posts.

There is only so many times you can say your sorry and will do better in the future without actually doing that much better.

On April 17 2021 20:57 Espelz wrote:


Doesnt necessarily mean it was a human trigger, as in "oh, greg forgot to press the migrate character buttons" - human error can also mean "we worked on that part/fixed something around it and accidently removed this trigger/somebody managed to slip an old error back into the code base/ whatever else".
IT errors,also the manual induced ones, can be pretty subtle.
Also, the one thing i really learned by working in IT for a few years is that almost nothing is as clean as "it should be".
Its unfortunate, and maybe (probably) it was avoidable, but i wouldnt point to this one thing he said and conclude that GGG is "completely disorganized and hilariously incompetent".

The clusterfuck of totally random streamer privilige is another story though. Thats were they really fucked up imho,and i'm pretty sure thats what will leave the worse impression in the end.