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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 17 2021 02:53 GMT
#32961
The streamer thing doesn't really bother me, it seems like a no-brainer from them business wise for keeping at least some people engaged in watching, and it's not like them skipping the queue is affecting the server load by any meaningful amount.

But this is the most frustrating start in a while by far. I don't think it's just server load and sheer numbers. Something else going on under the hood. Or a major DDOS issue or something idk.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
April 17 2021 03:06 GMT
#32962
The streamer thing bothers me a lot because it is giving an unfair advantage to certain players, and it was done with no transparency.

It makes sense from a business POV, but it's antithetical to the old image of GGG. Classic GGG philosophy wouldn't engage with stuff like this.

Ofc, this advantage is not the difference maker between us and the streamers - they play way more and are more skilled. But it is undeniably unfair, and the blatant and brazen nature of it is very jarring.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 17 2021 03:07 GMT
#32963
Hardcore ARPG, fresh league start where everyone is on equal footing, unless you're best buddies with a streamer or one yourself then we're gonna give you a bonus so that the billboard we put up shows a nice game that nobody else can play like that.

Yeah, no, not a fan.

Not to mention the basic thought of "if we give some people an ingame advantage and us an economic one because exposure that's great let's do it" is a pretty questionable starting place.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 17 2021 03:56 GMT
#32964
Managed to get up to Tower of God / Library between disconnects/rollbacks to grab Ice Trap from Siosa. About to head off on a four-day road-trip; curious to see what the league will be like once the dust has settled (plus how the rebalanced Harvest and e.g. Valdo's Rest King Harbinger or New Vastir Rogue Exile atlas passives play out). Stay safe, all.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 05:10:14
April 17 2021 05:09 GMT
#32965
holy shit the problems still aren't resolved... as someone who doesn't have disconnect issues when some other people sometimes do at early league launches, this has been the worst experience for me that I can remember and I played most leagues since open beta.

managed to somehow do normal lab despite disconnecting when leaving. now I disced twice before Dominus.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
April 17 2021 05:16 GMT
#32966
I really don't understand the problem. The league mechanisme seems rather simple. I think GGG must dish out some nice compensation after this mess. They deserve all the backlash they get when they make new league such a splash with count down and reveals up to the start.
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 05:59:36
April 17 2021 05:33 GMT
#32967
Unfortunately they don't seem to understand it either, or they don't tell us.

Hint: If your whole friend list goes offline before you, the next zone entrance will disconnect you and you'll probably rollback some. So makes no sense to continue playing the zone you're in, unless you can grab a wp, then you can pray it stays.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
April 17 2021 05:55 GMT
#32968
The league mechanic and the reward changes are pretty cool, I just can't seem to play :D
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
April 17 2021 06:03 GMT
#32969
yeah I like the league mechanic Ultimatum. Not a fan of the "go to sleep vs stare at a queue" ultimatum
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 17 2021 06:05 GMT
#32970
Queue is not the real problem anymore, it's that you get disced every 2-3 zones. Then you get into a queue, but those are pretty quick now.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
April 17 2021 06:15 GMT
#32971
Been playing couple of hours and haven't made it out of act 1. It's a first time for me to actually loss level after dc.
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 17 2021 06:32 GMT
#32972
This is only getting worse atm... yikes.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
April 17 2021 06:49 GMT
#32973
yeah this is real bad. EU has gone to sleep and come back to this. now NA going to sleep, will it be back when I wake? x)
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 17 2021 06:52 GMT
#32974
On April 17 2021 15:49 EchelonTee wrote:
yeah this is real bad. EU has gone to sleep and come back to this. now NA going to sleep, will it be back when I wake? x)

gl... hopefully.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 07:04:52
April 17 2021 07:04 GMT
#32975
I actually just managed to play about 20 minutes without a disconnect ! Then it happened again
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 17 2021 07:12 GMT
#32976
For gods sake I killed Kaom twice now and had two disconnects in the first zone before that. Kaom forever.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 07:53:14
April 17 2021 07:33 GMT
#32977
On April 17 2021 14:16 Sapaio wrote:
I really don't understand the problem. The league mechanisme seems rather simple. I think GGG must dish out some nice compensation after this mess. They deserve all the backlash they get when they make new league such a splash with count down and reveals up to the start.

It has nothing to do with the league mechanic. And the fact that it didn't get better at all as the server load shifted and died down (EU/NA getting late and going to bed, etc.) means it's a serious underlying issue. And it's affecting everyone, even the "privileged" streamers with the queue bypass are still facing the same constant disconnects and rollbacks and failed auths, which are probably more wasted cumulative time and progress than the queues themselves now. All you can hope for at this point is that they manage to sort out whatever chaos is going on with their backend as soon as possible, all this fretting about streamers and restarting the league and shit is wasted energy.

Edit: Ziz (who's been waiting in queue, not bypassing) just got to Oriath finally and had 7 hours /played on the character even though it was created 11.5 hours ago. Probably a good metric for what the overall uptime has been like for anyone that's been on the entire time and persistently trying to get in. I think he's been streaming since launch, but might have taken some breaks given the issues.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
April 17 2021 07:41 GMT
#32978
The issues are still persisting? o.O Probably some sour reddit kids who ddos the servers because of the harvest changes... So much for the idea of having a chill morning gaming session. Well, let's see.

clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 17 2021 07:53 GMT
#32979
On April 17 2021 16:41 Miragee wrote:
The issues are still persisting? o.O Probably some sour reddit kids who ddos the servers because of the harvest changes... So much for the idea of having a chill morning gaming session. Well, let's see.


I played a bit 1h after league start (when the queue issues got resolved) before going to bed and it's a lot worse now.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 08:14:19
April 17 2021 07:58 GMT
#32980
On April 17 2021 16:41 Miragee wrote:
The issues are still persisting? o.O Probably some sour reddit kids who ddos the servers because of the harvest changes... So much for the idea of having a chill morning gaming session. Well, let's see.


While that sounds plausible, it's doubtful. And yes, it's worse than ever. Do not try to play unless you are fine with basically no progress being saved at all.

It has gone from being able to load like 3-4 zones 4 hours ago to discing after each zone that takes 2 minutes.
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