Path of Exile - Page 1640

To your reforge stuff: That's just me but that's not how I want to use Harvest or would enjoy it. I don't care if I can print currency with it. It's basically just an improved chaos spam, which I despise. You can't really use it to craft your own stuff because hitting exactly what you need is, on average, way more expensive than just buying it. So unless you get insanely lucky you just craft shit and sell it and buy what you need. So basically like everything else in the game.

But yeah, well tbh the worst thing about it is the teasing. Here is what you can have and now we take it away. It's just human to be bitchy about when stuff is taken away from you, even though we are just going back to how it was before harvest, which wasn't bad. Also, I'm not a fan of gambling. So getting some sort of deterministic crafting was nice to me once I figured out how to use it. And I thought that was the point? I don't get the point of another system that is basically essence/fossil crafting. To me that just means I go back to no crafting at all again. Yes, it was way too overpowered but there are better ways to fix that. Also, they already had the league as an experiment, so they should have known of the problems it would cause. If they implemented it the way they are going to change it to now I believe the outcry would have been much smaller.

Here's an excerpt from the manifesto: "Why would I use a regular Exalted/Divine/Annul Orb when I can get one through Harvest that has a deterministic result?" Well, I think that applies to almost everyone on trade without Harvest as well. Why would I use and Annul or Exalt on an item, ever, unless I'm super rich and can craft until I hit what I want? I certainly never considered that before Harvest... It's not an exciting thought to me. In my mind it's an 0,0001% chance to be "oh cool, it worked..." and a 99,9999% chance to feel terrible afterwards.

Generally I agree with you and Mathil though. It's definitely not the end of the world. It just feels bad right now.

I get what you're saying. Reintroducing Harvest then cutting it at the knees is a real dirty tease. I just feel like it's not as bad as people are making it out to be.

When I said I used reforge to print currency, I also used it to make items for myself. Reforge, Keep Prefixs gave me a tri res 30 MS boot on Day 2 that I used for like a week. I used reforge with life / reforge with chaos, then remove non add chaos to craft all my cluster jewels. Those cluster jewels had a market value of 2-6 ex, that I instead made through my own efforts.

I guess if you hate chaos orbs and see this as simple gambling, then you might ignore that. That kind of confuses me though. So much of PoE is gambling, just made shiny. You spam Sirus hoping for a lucky awakened gem. You spam fossils hoping for a good +3 bow ("gambling"). You spam delve hoping for an Aul or a city. You spam essences hoping for a good item ("gambling").

Yes, a lot of people utterly disdain the crafting elements vs the playing elements, but the crafting elements are workable and really not that crazy to use. You don't have to be a 0.0001%er to use some fossils or essences and make an item that is worth 20c-2ex. Or to annul some belts until you keep the mods you want and craft flask duration.

That all said, I personally really enjoyed harvest. I think they might be going too far with the nerfs, especially since they are really cutting down on the quantity of crafts. I just feel like the response is a bit over the top. It's hard to take some ppl on reddit seriously as they proclaim this is the death of the game, D2R should kill this game, etc