• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:08
CET 10:08
KST 18:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
uThermal 2v2 Circuit OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1426 users

Path of Exile - Page 1202

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1200 1201 1202 1203 1204 1754 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 15:05:55
March 08 2017 15:00 GMT
#24021
im doing a crit inquisitor spark build - major differences from holy's tree are i trade pierce and true strike clusters for +1 curse and arcane potency. ill probably use voidwalker for the pierce. trying some shenanigans with call of the brotherhood and choir of the storm.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 08 2017 15:08 GMT
#24022
On March 08 2017 19:27 -Archangel- wrote:
What do you guys think about a detonate dead build using scourge claw and necromancer? Since you invest into minion passives you can also run with Zombies to increase survivability. Scourge claw gives general bonus damage that would work with both detonate dead base damage and ignite damage afterwards.

Or maybe just elementalist with Scourge claw so I get that free elemental proliferation boost? I won't have access to useful zombies or boosts from Offering spells so I guess much less survivability?!

This is tree I made for Elementalist version: www.poeurl.com/83X
With Fire Golem and Elemental damage from Ascendancy I get 120% bonus elemental or fire damage. Other golem would be either Chaos for 8% physical resistance or Stone Golem for more ES regeneration through ZO.
6% better ignite chance, chance to shock or freeze in addition to ignite and every 10s, 4s is 100% inc damage, 4s increased area
Main damage 5L link: DD+IncAoE+Minion Damage+Fire Pen+Chance to Ignite

Necromancer version would have same tree but would need to use Elemental Prolif support instead of something.
Ascendancy gives 110% increased damage that does not depend on having live Golem. Zombies give physical damage reduction but need to be alive for that (which is easier for 1 Chaos Golem which is immune to elemental damage and highly resistant to chaos). Using offering spell gives 40% increased damage for 4s as well as the offering bonus (move speed/cast speed or bonus block chance) and 30% effect duration probably helps with ignite damage. Also at least 20% to all resistances (is it 20% per aura you have?) making it easier to gear yourself.

Both versions would:
Use Orb of Storms to activate EE and curse enemies with Flammability and hopefully activate EO in longer fights.
Using Discipline, Vitality and Arctic Armor. Zealot's Oath and lots of life regen for ES recovery (since I cannot leech with DD). And Beast's Fur armor.

Which one would you play?

My thoughts are:
Necromancer one takes more actions with need to cast offering often, also I do not know which skill I should remove from main link to use Elemental Prolif support (and it gives penalty to damage making a bit better damage boost from ascendancy not that good). But having 4-5 zombies and 1 golem is better distraction than 2 golems. Also this build is useless without Scourge claw making leveling with it very hard (I will try this out in standard but might want something like this a league starter in 3.0 if it works well)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 16:06:51
March 08 2017 16:05 GMT
#24023
On March 08 2017 21:10 -Archangel- wrote:
It does not look like good build anyways. Killing stuff with Fire Mine is terrible. Slow and you get way too close to everyone.

Fire Nova Mine is amazing if you can stand the playstyle and you should be ashamed of calling it terrible. It's fast, safe and got Steelmage to level 100 in Essence. KB mines, Bow swap for Fire Nova Mine for single target and gg. Before you have a weapon for KB mines FN mine is also fine for AoE but its real strength is bursting bosses.

In a case like this where the guy uses it to gain charges for his main Vaal skill it's also totally fine even though some MultiTrap combo might be slightly faster.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 17:16:59
March 08 2017 17:14 GMT
#24024
On March 09 2017 01:05 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 21:10 -Archangel- wrote:
It does not look like good build anyways. Killing stuff with Fire Mine is terrible. Slow and you get way too close to everyone.

Fire Nova Mine is amazing if you can stand the playstyle and you should be ashamed of calling it terrible. It's fast, safe and got Steelmage to level 100 in Essence. KB mines, Bow swap for Fire Nova Mine for single target and gg. Before you have a weapon for KB mines FN mine is also fine for AoE but its real strength is bursting bosses.

In a case like this where the guy uses it to gain charges for his main Vaal skill it's also totally fine even though some MultiTrap combo might be slightly faster.

It is worse than Vaal Spark for what the video is trying to accomplish so I consider it bad. If your goal is to farm Dried Lake no point in playing anything but Vaal Spark.

As for this other guy, maybe his build is good, I don't know the details of his build and I have not seen any videos. Getting to 100 means little in PoE unless he got there as first 10 or something. People got to 100 just farming Dried Lake all day. It is more about training your brain to not go Boom by the sheer boredom that leveling to 100 is.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 08 2017 18:42 GMT
#24025
How do you think people get the currency to make Vaal Sparkers that farm Dried Lake and lower maps super efficiently? Certainly not by starting out with Vaal Spark. And that's precisely what that video is talking about.

As for "this other guy" aka Steelmage we're talking EHC first to 100 and certainly not farming Dried Lake all day.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 18:43:10
March 08 2017 18:42 GMT
#24026
If I don't remember wrong Steelmage only got enough clearspeed and dmg with KB mines because he had a necrobot. KB can do insane dmg if you make a build that doesn't need aura nodes. Else it's fairly expensive but of course still strong.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 19:11:45
March 08 2017 19:08 GMT
#24027
Mines based on bow or wand skill is a different story as you don't need to run into middle of enemies to place it like Fire Nova Mine. I can believe that one is pretty strong.

Any comments on my wanna do build up there?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 08 2017 19:29 GMT
#24028
On March 09 2017 04:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Mines based on bow or wand skill is a different story as you don't need to run into middle of enemies to place it like Fire Nova Mine. I can believe that one is pretty strong.

Any comments on my wanna do build up there?

the minion damage gem doesn't work read the scourge again
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 19:31:26
March 08 2017 19:30 GMT
#24029
I got no experience with The Scourge so ... but you'd probably want to pick up Heart of the Flame. Build should work but I have no idea how well.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 19:39:05
March 08 2017 19:34 GMT
#24030
On March 09 2017 04:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2017 04:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Mines based on bow or wand skill is a different story as you don't need to run into middle of enemies to place it like Fire Nova Mine. I can believe that one is pretty strong.

Any comments on my wanna do build up there?

the minion damage gem doesn't work read the scourge again

It says on weapon that increases and reductions to minion damage also affect me. How does that mean minion damage support does not work?
Is it because it will not be added to DD spell and even the claw does not circumvent that?

Frack you are right, Minion damage support gives more damage, not increased damage. I thought it gives increased damage all the time :D
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 08 2017 19:43 GMT
#24031
If there are doubts, I just test things in Path of Building. Even if the program isn't 100% accurate, it helps a ton.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 08 2017 21:01 GMT
#24032
On March 09 2017 04:34 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2017 04:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
On March 09 2017 04:08 -Archangel- wrote:
Mines based on bow or wand skill is a different story as you don't need to run into middle of enemies to place it like Fire Nova Mine. I can believe that one is pretty strong.

Any comments on my wanna do build up there?

the minion damage gem doesn't work read the scourge again

It says on weapon that increases and reductions to minion damage also affect me. How does that mean minion damage support does not work?
Is it because it will not be added to DD spell and even the claw does not circumvent that?

Frack you are right, Minion damage support gives more damage, not increased damage. I thought it gives increased damage all the time :D


the one time more damage is worse than increased damage D:
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 08 2017 21:33 GMT
#24033
Ok, I respeced a lvl 81 character into the elementalist version of this build and so far it is pretty cool. DD and desecrate gems are lowish level, I need to level them up before I try red maps but yellow maps are a breeze.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
March 08 2017 21:51 GMT
#24034
So I'm doing an arc build in softcore and just had a question

I'm ~66 atm, managed to pick up a reverberation wand at the end of a4 which was awesome. So right now my links for arc are arc-lightning pen-controlled destruction-(spell echo). I have a 5L in my stash (though the rolls on it are pretty bad), wonder if it's worth moving off of the reverb wand for a leveled spell echo gem + another support? (I'd use empower but I don't have it yet so it'll probably be life leech since im EB/MoM)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 21:56:16
March 08 2017 21:55 GMT
#24035
Use the 5l and put in ele focus assuming you can roll enough blues
empower is... a luxury 6l once you have a level 3+ and even then it's usually best in like a +1 6l staff/bow type idea

assuming you are life based due to mom, you can use a decent essence of greed on the chest to guarantee a useable life roll and just master craft on whatever extra resist you need.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 08 2017 23:19 GMT
#24036
yeah, and you can replace reverb rod with a rare wand w/ more damage.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 09 2017 00:21 GMT
#24037
On March 09 2017 03:42 HolydaKing wrote:
If I don't remember wrong Steelmage only got enough clearspeed and dmg with KB mines because he had a necrobot. KB can do insane dmg if you make a build that doesn't need aura nodes. Else it's fairly expensive but of course still strong.

You can get plenty of clearspeed with kb mines without a necro bot, a 4link will blow up everything on the screen and weapon swap to +3 fnm will melt bosses
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 09 2017 02:46 GMT
#24038
Implicits on foil Windripper/Lioneye's stayed through the patch! That's pretty insane for those 3-4 people who got it on their Windrippers in SC. :3

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 09 2017 03:25 GMT
#24039
I feel like an idiot now.

Rip
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
March 09 2017 04:20 GMT
#24040
Finally finished my last midterm paper. So it's almost like starting the league 5 days late but I'll take it.

Good news is my cheap gear for the build has become even cheaper.
Prev 1 1200 1201 1202 1203 1204 1754 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #67
CranKy Ducklings53
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3534
Leta 467
Hyuk 374
Larva 363
actioN 317
Zeus 196
BeSt 119
Sharp 79
Hyun 66
Mong 61
[ Show more ]
Aegong 58
Killer 46
ZergMaN 41
NotJumperer 34
ggaemo 27
soO 25
Nal_rA 22
yabsab 14
JulyZerg 14
Bale 13
Terrorterran 4
Dota 2
XaKoH 725
NeuroSwarm103
League of Legends
JimRising 649
C9.Mang0604
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss714
olofmeister33
Super Smash Bros
Westballz21
Other Games
summit1g9858
singsing1243
Happy387
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick27258
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• iopq 0
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling110
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
2h 53m
RotterdaM Event
8h 23m
Patches Events
10h 53m
PiGosaur Cup
15h 53m
OSC
1d 2h
SOOP
1d 18h
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
SOOP
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
IPSL
6 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 21
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.