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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 31 2016 21:28 GMT
#21941
On September 01 2016 05:46 bo1b wrote:
Just read that you can link multiple spells on coc and each spell has a 500ms cd.

Yeah, not quite a that big nerf considering it also got a more spell damage buff. With EE it should still be fine.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 31 2016 21:47 GMT
#21942
It's still pretty gigantic tbh. Phys coc should still be legit though I suppose.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
August 31 2016 21:51 GMT
#21943
On September 01 2016 06:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 06:24 Yuljan wrote:
after the elementalist nerf im still on the fence which class to use for EA. Does anyone know more about the Augury of Penitence node? How does the nearby enemies deal 8% less elemental dmg interact with resistancies?

say you have 75% fire res and an enemy would normally do 100 fire damage to you
you'd take 25 damage
now they'd do 92 fire damage to you, so you'd take 23 damage


Ah too bad. That doesnt outweigh the reflect reduction then.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
August 31 2016 23:59 GMT
#21944
Okay, I think I'm going to do Ice Spear, God help me.

~
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 07:23:43
September 01 2016 07:19 GMT
#21945
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716826

Zero passive tree changes aside from the few Ascendancy changes confirmed. So there's not really a need to update the offline tree planner, but I did anyway (you can do that through the old one; help menu -> check for update). I hate that the map name changes will be super confusing. Tunnel map name changed to Crystal Ore Map? Better learn that name, I hate that map. And now Underground River will be the good map and Underground Sea the meh map.

Hmm so there's basically all info out now for choosing the build to play. Unless there will be some last minute buffs/nerfs after all the flak from Reddit in the last two days. It wouldn't surprise me, in fact I expect it.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 01 2016 12:44 GMT
#21946
If the only Tier X map I have unlocked on the atlas is a unique one, will every Tier X map drop be unique for me?
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phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
September 01 2016 14:14 GMT
#21947
On September 01 2016 21:44 Alur wrote:
If the only Tier X map I have unlocked on the atlas is a unique one, will every Tier X map drop be unique for me?

Too good to be true.Unique maps arent connected on the atlas with others probably they ll drop a lot of kind of maps.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 01 2016 14:59 GMT
#21948
I'm between Pathfinder and Beserker for my Explosive Arrow build. Don't want to do Scion (bonuses seem too weak) or Elementalist (not sure on this). Pathfinder would be more defensive with super buffed flasks, and really nice movement speed from Experimenter's QS of Adrenaline. Zerker would be certainly more damage and comes with built in leech.

Anyone have experience with EA can talk about what's good? First time using the skill. Not sure about RT vs. Elemental Overload for example.

Pathfinder would be based off of this guide, Beserker something based off this one
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 01 2016 15:02 GMT
#21949
I took EA to 91 in perandus but my build was champion and I don't think very many people would copy it

I went FULLLLL pussy had over 9k HP with perma fortify 10% regen etc. From what I've heard, EO is just better than RT these days.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 01 2016 15:23 GMT
#21950
Elemental Overload is probably better. Be prepared for rather mediocre damage on things like Izaro though if you play Explosive Arrow.

Also they can't be serious that Cadiro only has a chance (!) to spawn through Zana map mod. They better buffed his offers then... I think even 100% spawn for 4c wouldn't really be good with how often he offered bad stuff. But maybe I'm wrong.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 01 2016 15:50 GMT
#21951
Be a hipster and make an EA build using a +3 bow with high APS, Undeniable from Juggernaut and the the new accuracy synergy helm. Regardless I think EA single target should be decent, especially if you can manage to get the 40% more ele dmg craft on your helm for your single target setup.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 16:03:01
September 01 2016 15:58 GMT
#21952
There's so many builds luring me in each direction compared to last league.
BV got buff and performance fix so it's even more fun and compelling (liked it in prophecy already.)
EA was fun etc but I think single target is a little bit lacking unless someone proves me wrong. (Not to mention its clunkiness)
Melee Totems would be so comfy in new maps since you don't have to facetank the unknown and there's shit ton of new maps. Easy boss kills too.
LA was my favourite build of poe ever with FW but now with Blast rain I'm not so sure. It felt pretty shit when I tested it a little bit and this expansion is focusing a lot on bosses. Still an option.
Shield charge was fast fun for its hilariousness and amazing speed in certain layouts and farms pretty good for its cost. A bit risky build for a life melee tho.
Then there's the ED/curse build that will rape everything but it requires 5L+respec or really fucking slow leveling. (Is that even a downside lol?)

Farming autistically dried lake with vaal spark is tempting too but I'm not comfortable to play it without Vinktar's.

On September 02 2016 00:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
I took EA to 91 in perandus but my build was champion and I don't think very many people would copy it

I went FULLLLL pussy had over 9k HP with perma fortify 10% regen etc. From what I've heard, EO is just better than RT these days.

What changed from the days when RT was better? You know if you miss with EA in single target scenario the arrow flies ignoring the target. You can't rely on hitting multiple hits to frost wall anymore so hitting the target with single target setup is more important than before.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 16:00:48
September 01 2016 16:00 GMT
#21953
e:delete:misclick
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 01 2016 16:04 GMT
#21954
Elemental Overload exists.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 01 2016 16:08 GMT
#21955
On September 02 2016 00:58 Ryndika wrote:
There's so many builds luring me in each direction compared to last league.
BV got buff and performance fix so it's even more fun and compelling (liked it in prophecy already.)
EA was fun etc but I think single target is a little bit lacking unless someone proves me wrong. (Not to mention its clunkiness)
Melee Totems would be so comfy in new maps since you don't have to facetank the unknown and there's shit ton of new maps. Easy boss kills too.
LA was my favourite build of poe ever with FW but now with Blast rain I'm not so sure. It felt pretty shit when I tested it a little bit and this expansion is focusing a lot on bosses. Still an option.
Shield charge was fast fun for its hilariousness and amazing speed in certain layouts and farms pretty good for its cost. A bit risky build for a life melee tho.
Then there's the ED/curse build that will rape everything but it requires 5L+respec or really fucking slow leveling. (Is that even a downside lol?)

Farming autistically dried lake with vaal spark is tempting too but I'm not comfortable to play it without Vinktar's.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 00:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
I took EA to 91 in perandus but my build was champion and I don't think very many people would copy it

I went FULLLLL pussy had over 9k HP with perma fortify 10% regen etc. From what I've heard, EO is just better than RT these days.

What changed from the days when RT was better? You know if you miss with EA in single target scenario the arrow flies ignoring the target. You can't rely on hitting multiple hits to frost wall anymore so hitting the target with single target setup is more important than before.

LA/Blast Rain is fine, after all you got the dbl 5-6L power behind it. Phys Archer (Assassin) built around bleed/poison might beat it tho. I kinda want to do splitshot/chain with that this league.

ED isn't that terrible to level depending on which Ascendancy you want to go for. It'd disgustingly shit in a party, but solo there is worse stuff. Levelling Shadow as ED is pretty smooth for example.

Vaal Spark Dried lake won't get you killed to reflect without Vinktars. You shouldn't be anywhere close to the damage/mob life ratio that ends up killing you in maps.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 01 2016 16:12 GMT
#21956
you need like 71% accuracy for EO to break even compared to RT and that's before you factor in the double-dipping on ignites part of "more elemental damage". I used RT though, because I went for dead simple can't fuck up version like I said.

Also missing is decent because sometimes your arrows go deeper into packs although thats rarely a concern per se.

I'm thinking of a bladevortex pathfinder build for myself but struggling with a variety of different ideas. Strongly considering a hybrid life-es max chaos res w/ ming's heart version since you already get free poison and a good chunk of chaos res as pathfinder.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 16:41:20
September 01 2016 16:18 GMT
#21957
On September 02 2016 01:08 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 00:58 Ryndika wrote:
There's so many builds luring me in each direction compared to last league.
BV got buff and performance fix so it's even more fun and compelling (liked it in prophecy already.)
EA was fun etc but I think single target is a little bit lacking unless someone proves me wrong. (Not to mention its clunkiness)
Melee Totems would be so comfy in new maps since you don't have to facetank the unknown and there's shit ton of new maps. Easy boss kills too.
LA was my favourite build of poe ever with FW but now with Blast rain I'm not so sure. It felt pretty shit when I tested it a little bit and this expansion is focusing a lot on bosses. Still an option.
Shield charge was fast fun for its hilariousness and amazing speed in certain layouts and farms pretty good for its cost. A bit risky build for a life melee tho.
Then there's the ED/curse build that will rape everything but it requires 5L+respec or really fucking slow leveling. (Is that even a downside lol?)

Farming autistically dried lake with vaal spark is tempting too but I'm not comfortable to play it without Vinktar's.

On September 02 2016 00:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
I took EA to 91 in perandus but my build was champion and I don't think very many people would copy it

I went FULLLLL pussy had over 9k HP with perma fortify 10% regen etc. From what I've heard, EO is just better than RT these days.

What changed from the days when RT was better? You know if you miss with EA in single target scenario the arrow flies ignoring the target. You can't rely on hitting multiple hits to frost wall anymore so hitting the target with single target setup is more important than before.

LA/Blast Rain is fine, after all you got the dbl 5-6L power behind it. Phys Archer (Assassin) built around bleed/poison might beat it tho. I kinda want to do splitshot/chain with that this league.

ED isn't that terrible to level depending on which Ascendancy you want to go for. It'd disgustingly shit in a party, but solo there is worse stuff. Levelling Shadow as ED is pretty smooth for example.

Vaal Spark Dried lake won't get you killed to reflect without Vinktars. You shouldn't be anywhere close to the damage/mob life ratio that ends up killing you in maps.

I was thinking ed is shit 1-60~ and after racing it's just frustrating if you actually use BV/ED to lvl.

I almost offscreen suicided once with vinktar char(not active) on practice run with v spark. Extremely rare probably.
e: I tested again and used vspark whirling into 10% hp reflect mob in a ginnel. Result was death.

On September 02 2016 01:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also missing is decent because sometimes your arrows go deeper into packs although thats rarely a concern per se.

I was talking about single target only and with that referring to Izaro/bosses where shooting into pack is unlikely and wall isn't always available.
I have no experience in reds with EA and EO could help considerably maybe there but I'm completely ignorant to that.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 16:26:58
September 01 2016 16:24 GMT
#21958
On September 02 2016 01:04 Alur wrote:
Elemental Overload exists.

I played EA with Elemental Overload last league, even normal Izaro (who for some isn't quite the highest hp boss they will do) took quite a while... Though I only played it until lvl 86 or so, so gem level was 18 or 19 I guess.

But yeah, in most cases it was really fine. But tanky things like Izaro that also deal quite a lot dmg weren't so beautiful.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 01 2016 16:26 GMT
#21959
I think the new BV will be decent for leveling, basically a 63% more buff at that stage of the game.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 01 2016 16:28 GMT
#21960
On September 02 2016 01:26 Alur wrote:
I think the new BV will be decent for leveling, basically a 63% more buff at that stage of the game.

Yes it will, I expect it to be meta in Essence league for sure. Its boss dmg was so absurd and with 20 stacks it should still be better than (almost) any other spell in terms of ST.
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