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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 07:49:31
August 23 2016 07:49 GMT
#21761
Woot? FP dmg is insanely good. Its coverage isn't very good, yeah. But the ST dmg is top. I've tried dual FP totems lately and it was really good, requires Rain of Splinters though. For leveling there are indeed better spells due to its melee nature (at first) and low AoE.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 23 2016 08:44 GMT
#21762
Small note since I just ended up checking it. Prophecy was relatively speaking both crazy active and kinda slow.

If you check the guild profile we had lots of people active last league but at the same time only five people with 36+ challenges completed. Out of the twenty or so that were inactive at least ten are oldschool/people I recall having re-invited not too long ago so we'll skip the whole kicking thing again.

If we need more slots at launch we'll use the last 100 pts we have in guild for +10 slots this round.
_____________

Bonus tip for quick leveling at the beginning of a league: Don't play weapon builds unless you're ready to get yelled at by people like Smuft for not doing any damage. Unless you're able to drop good stuff that is.

On a more serious note does anyone know any streamer who played something like a Bowranger in the SSF? I have trouble finding vods for that kind of stuff and it annoys the crap out of me that it cockblocks me so hard at the start of a league.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
August 23 2016 08:52 GMT
#21763
On August 23 2016 16:49 HolydaKing wrote:
Woot? FP dmg is insanely good. Its coverage isn't very good, yeah. But the ST dmg is top. I've tried dual FP totems lately and it was really good, requires Rain of Splinters though. For leveling there are indeed better spells due to its melee nature (at first) and low AoE.

Yes, once you get all the crit nodes it gets good. Problem is that meant travelling through half the tree to pick up charges and crit, so no generic damage nodes for quite a while.
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
August 23 2016 15:11 GMT
#21764
Yesterday i did my first run with loot filters ever.. it was like another game ..how stupid i was to ignore this thing.The new league it seems a softcore league for me.PoE universe is expanding faster than my skill so if i had a chance to try the new content is only in softcore this time, since i never have been further than 7-10 tier in HC.Seriously HC needs some nerfs from ggg nobody plays it exept a small elite group.
My goal for the new league will be to reach the endgame with a simple build that focuses in game progress and its OP.I m thinking a tornado shot or split arrow suggestions are welcome.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 15:53:00
August 23 2016 15:52 GMT
#21765
this build is a good cookie cutter TS build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1041989

I found it to be a bit squishy though. Fine for SC tho. Personally I'm going to try queen of the forest build unless frostwall + lightning arrow gets nerfed. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696139 Reach of the coucil going to be soooo expensive next league though ><

I'd say with HC it's partially dependent on build, partially dependent on skill. My player skill is pretty meh, mostly because of inexperience, so I lost a bunch of chars to bone headed mistakes, but on my OP chars like max defense Juggernaut, I have essentially no chance of dying unless I stack ele damage mods on a map. If you want to get far in HC there are some builds that can really trivialize content, just depends on how fun you think playing like that / with those builds is
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
August 23 2016 16:33 GMT
#21766
On August 24 2016 00:52 EchelonTee wrote:
this build is a good cookie cutter TS build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1041989

I found it to be a bit squishy though. Fine for SC tho. Personally I'm going to try queen of the forest build unless frostwall + lightning arrow gets nerfed. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696139 Reach of the coucil going to be soooo expensive next league though ><

I'd say with HC it's partially dependent on build, partially dependent on skill. My player skill is pretty meh, mostly because of inexperience, so I lost a bunch of chars to bone headed mistakes, but on my OP chars like max defense Juggernaut, I have essentially no chance of dying unless I stack ele damage mods on a map. If you want to get far in HC there are some builds that can really trivialize content, just depends on how fun you think playing like that / with those builds is


Both guides are very good specially the first is more close to what i m thinking i ll definitly read it all and steal some ideas.I want to run TS as an assasin like ziggyd s build.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
August 23 2016 17:46 GMT
#21767
yea that should work well, I would just watch out because they might nerf poison mechanics next league. it's super duper strong atm
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 17:59:52
August 23 2016 17:58 GMT
#21768
Yup, Poison, Earthquake and CoC could possibly get nerfed. Though I wouldn't mind the other melee skills to get buffed instead. I love Sweep but who would play that when EQ deals so much more dmg.

That said... we thought this at the last big update too. Nothing happened though.
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
August 23 2016 19:52 GMT
#21769
i think i saw Karv racing ranger before using all the skills you'd expect; shrapnel until ROA + burning arrow for single target -> change to LA once you get enough dmg that it's superior mechanics make it better

not sure when blast rain becomes the better single target over burning arrow

I think bow ranger was under represented in these races cause they don't have the DPS to deal with all these beyond packs and bosses?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-23 19:59:19
August 23 2016 19:58 GMT
#21770
Shrapnel is pretty good for leveling, yep. I tried it, it's pretty dope with LMP and decent without. RoA always was decent, and I think it was the to-go leveling spell before Split Arrow got buffed.

And yes, Ranger sucks against Beyond early on. Single Target is too low.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
August 23 2016 23:33 GMT
#21771
On August 23 2016 17:44 r.Evo wrote:
Small note since I just ended up checking it. Prophecy was relatively speaking both crazy active and kinda slow.

If you check the guild profile we had lots of people active last league but at the same time only five people with 36+ challenges completed. Out of the twenty or so that were inactive at least ten are oldschool/people I recall having re-invited not too long ago so we'll skip the whole kicking thing again.

If we need more slots at launch we'll use the last 100 pts we have in guild for +10 slots this round.
_____________

Bonus tip for quick leveling at the beginning of a league: Don't play weapon builds unless you're ready to get yelled at by people like Smuft for not doing any damage. Unless you're able to drop good stuff that is.

On a more serious note does anyone know any streamer who played something like a Bowranger in the SSF? I have trouble finding vods for that kind of stuff and it annoys the crap out of me that it cockblocks me so hard at the start of a league.


I'll be playing a weapon build, and not getting dmg nodes forever, so much travel involved. Get ready for a bad ranger and worse weapon totem build to take off Evo. Guess we won't be grouping with Smuft at all.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 24 2016 09:30 GMT
#21772
On August 24 2016 08:33 LagLovah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 17:44 r.Evo wrote:
Small note since I just ended up checking it. Prophecy was relatively speaking both crazy active and kinda slow.

If you check the guild profile we had lots of people active last league but at the same time only five people with 36+ challenges completed. Out of the twenty or so that were inactive at least ten are oldschool/people I recall having re-invited not too long ago so we'll skip the whole kicking thing again.

If we need more slots at launch we'll use the last 100 pts we have in guild for +10 slots this round.
_____________

Bonus tip for quick leveling at the beginning of a league: Don't play weapon builds unless you're ready to get yelled at by people like Smuft for not doing any damage. Unless you're able to drop good stuff that is.

On a more serious note does anyone know any streamer who played something like a Bowranger in the SSF? I have trouble finding vods for that kind of stuff and it annoys the crap out of me that it cockblocks me so hard at the start of a league.


I'll be playing a weapon build, and not getting dmg nodes forever, so much travel involved. Get ready for a bad ranger and worse weapon totem build to take off Evo. Guess we won't be grouping with Smuft at all.

It's okay I'll just race you to cruel np.

On August 24 2016 04:52 Smuft wrote:
i think i saw Karv racing ranger before using all the skills you'd expect; shrapnel until ROA + burning arrow for single target -> change to LA once you get enough dmg that it's superior mechanics make it better

not sure when blast rain becomes the better single target over burning arrow

I think bow ranger was under represented in these races cause they don't have the DPS to deal with all these beyond packs and bosses?


I think the issue I ran into with bow builds at league start is early on worst case you're just a bit slower than other builds. Fine. But if your drops suck in cruel then A4C becomes really, really rough. I guess mayyyybe traps are a solution to that?

Just to make sure EK or Caustic Arrow are still ass for levelling, right? Those are the only dex skills that come to mind that scale heavily based on gem level and with projectile nodes.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2016 10:41 GMT
#21773
Playing around with doing ed/contagion on traps.

I see great potential for clearing entire screens with a single cast.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 24 2016 10:54 GMT
#21774
Can you guys recommend me a good ranged build for SC and self found? I doubt I will be playing all difficulties so something that can get me to last difficulty with good clearing speed. I don't plan to rush content, I just want to be able to kill mobs fast and enjoy it. It can either be a weapon or spell build (and I will do 0 trading as I hate that).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2016 11:29 GMT
#21775
Spell builds are probably better for self found, weapons require a lot of links to really be good I think.

Do you have anything at all in particular you want to play as? Like ascendancy/spell?
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 24 2016 13:12 GMT
#21776
On August 24 2016 18:30 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 08:33 LagLovah wrote:
On August 23 2016 17:44 r.Evo wrote:
Small note since I just ended up checking it. Prophecy was relatively speaking both crazy active and kinda slow.

If you check the guild profile we had lots of people active last league but at the same time only five people with 36+ challenges completed. Out of the twenty or so that were inactive at least ten are oldschool/people I recall having re-invited not too long ago so we'll skip the whole kicking thing again.

If we need more slots at launch we'll use the last 100 pts we have in guild for +10 slots this round.
_____________

Bonus tip for quick leveling at the beginning of a league: Don't play weapon builds unless you're ready to get yelled at by people like Smuft for not doing any damage. Unless you're able to drop good stuff that is.

On a more serious note does anyone know any streamer who played something like a Bowranger in the SSF? I have trouble finding vods for that kind of stuff and it annoys the crap out of me that it cockblocks me so hard at the start of a league.


I'll be playing a weapon build, and not getting dmg nodes forever, so much travel involved. Get ready for a bad ranger and worse weapon totem build to take off Evo. Guess we won't be grouping with Smuft at all.

It's okay I'll just race you to cruel np.

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 04:52 Smuft wrote:
i think i saw Karv racing ranger before using all the skills you'd expect; shrapnel until ROA + burning arrow for single target -> change to LA once you get enough dmg that it's superior mechanics make it better

not sure when blast rain becomes the better single target over burning arrow

I think bow ranger was under represented in these races cause they don't have the DPS to deal with all these beyond packs and bosses?


I think the issue I ran into with bow builds at league start is early on worst case you're just a bit slower than other builds. Fine. But if your drops suck in cruel then A4C becomes really, really rough. I guess mayyyybe traps are a solution to that?

Just to make sure EK or Caustic Arrow are still ass for levelling, right? Those are the only dex skills that come to mind that scale heavily based on gem level and with projectile nodes.

i leveled a blade vortex pathfinder last league as my first character and it was fine with 0 dmg nodes
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 24 2016 14:20 GMT
#21777
On August 24 2016 22:12 kju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 18:30 r.Evo wrote:
On August 24 2016 08:33 LagLovah wrote:
On August 23 2016 17:44 r.Evo wrote:
Small note since I just ended up checking it. Prophecy was relatively speaking both crazy active and kinda slow.

If you check the guild profile we had lots of people active last league but at the same time only five people with 36+ challenges completed. Out of the twenty or so that were inactive at least ten are oldschool/people I recall having re-invited not too long ago so we'll skip the whole kicking thing again.

If we need more slots at launch we'll use the last 100 pts we have in guild for +10 slots this round.
_____________

Bonus tip for quick leveling at the beginning of a league: Don't play weapon builds unless you're ready to get yelled at by people like Smuft for not doing any damage. Unless you're able to drop good stuff that is.

On a more serious note does anyone know any streamer who played something like a Bowranger in the SSF? I have trouble finding vods for that kind of stuff and it annoys the crap out of me that it cockblocks me so hard at the start of a league.


I'll be playing a weapon build, and not getting dmg nodes forever, so much travel involved. Get ready for a bad ranger and worse weapon totem build to take off Evo. Guess we won't be grouping with Smuft at all.

It's okay I'll just race you to cruel np.

On August 24 2016 04:52 Smuft wrote:
i think i saw Karv racing ranger before using all the skills you'd expect; shrapnel until ROA + burning arrow for single target -> change to LA once you get enough dmg that it's superior mechanics make it better

not sure when blast rain becomes the better single target over burning arrow

I think bow ranger was under represented in these races cause they don't have the DPS to deal with all these beyond packs and bosses?


I think the issue I ran into with bow builds at league start is early on worst case you're just a bit slower than other builds. Fine. But if your drops suck in cruel then A4C becomes really, really rough. I guess mayyyybe traps are a solution to that?

Just to make sure EK or Caustic Arrow are still ass for levelling, right? Those are the only dex skills that come to mind that scale heavily based on gem level and with projectile nodes.

i leveled a blade vortex pathfinder last league as my first character and it was fine with 0 dmg nodes

All the way to merci dried lake?

I assume the only dmg nodes were inc duration nodes? That might just work out. I think Escha did EK instead and wasn't too happy.

____

Sidenote for people who aren't visiting reddit by any chance, this pastebin by Karv/ProjectPT shows some major issues with the current system.

tl;dr: Be careful what you unlock. If e.g. the only T13 you have unlocked is a Gorge then every single T13 that ever drops will drop as a Gorge. This will be permanent for all your characters in a certain league as it stands.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 24 2016 14:50 GMT
#21778
On August 24 2016 20:29 bo1b wrote:
Spell builds are probably better for self found, weapons require a lot of links to really be good I think.

Do you have anything at all in particular you want to play as? Like ascendancy/spell?

I don't have a clue what is ascendancy :D

I don't want summons because that is too much zzzzzzzz. Anything that I can spam and that will do mass murder? Like Frozen Orb or Blizzard in D2.

I know PoE has a Frozen Orb like spell but if I remember well that spell created performance problems?! Also I don't have a clue if it is useful for mass murdering mobs.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 15:45:25
August 24 2016 15:43 GMT
#21779
Guess it's time for another league. I won't be having much free time like past leagues so probably gonna do some cookie cutter stuff.
Problem is I'm not sure what are the builds right now hah. Guess bow user, miner, coc stuff are still on top ? Any cool spells or non-eq melee that are decent enough right now ?

Also will Voidheart/Reach of the Council be available in the new league ?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 24 2016 16:28 GMT
#21780
They'll be available, Reach nerf is pretty much confirmed at this point though. Wouldn't be surprised if Voidheart gets the bat too.

CoC nerf also was announced for this league but no specifics yet. Pizza Elementalist (or Elementalist in general) is still opop, bladefall mines, anything Slayer AoE. Blade Vortex Pathfinder got a slight buff with BV bugs being fixed.

I think that's most of what we know right now.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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