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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 08 2011 00:44 GMT
#261
On August 08 2011 09:40 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 07:28 Blazinghand wrote:
1 e4 e5
should go into
2. f4

+ Show Spoiler [The King's Gambit] +
The King's Gambit is baller as dicks and we should go with it. Although 2. Nf3 is the highest-rated response in terms of victory. 2.f4 is the highest-rated response in terms of balling and being basically a baller. So I recommend we ball all day erry day and go for the King's Gambit like the ballers we are.


2. f4

+ Show Spoiler +
2. Nf3 is indeed the highest-rated response, but true ballers go into a battle guns blazing with their penis and also nuts (a.k.a. Junk) on full display, and 2. f4 accomplishes that like a BAWZ.

True ballers must have a high mortality rate...
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
August 08 2011 00:47 GMT
#262
2. f4 because I dont have all year.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
August 08 2011 00:51 GMT
#263
--- Nuked ---
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 08 2011 01:05 GMT
#264
Votes


Nf3: 12 ([Cloud9157], Ikari, Raysalis, Soluhwin, Bengui, XXGeneration, Varpulis, enigmaticcam, JeanBob, chesshaha, bobq, stormtemplar)
f4: 8 (Blazinghand, Malinor, qrs, PtM, Bourne, jdseemoreglass, Rybka, gogogadgetflow)

Note: I counted Cloud9157's vote for Nf3, but it won't actually be counted unless he takes it out of spoilers.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 08 2011 01:10 GMT
#265
2. f4

+ Show Spoiler +
It's not the opening with which I'm most familiar, but I enjoy aggressive play, and would love for us to go with some kind of gambit that would lead into an exciting midgame.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 08 2011 01:12 GMT
#266
Nf3. >.>

See previous response for reason.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
August 08 2011 01:24 GMT
#267
2. f4

Aggressive play is always really fun. Nf3 is gonna lead to really boring positions...
im deaf
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 03:04:33
August 08 2011 01:34 GMT
#268
Hell I'll go with 2. f4

+ Show Spoiler +
Let's start some pressure.


Edit: added spoiler
Write your own song!
enigmaticcam
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States280 Posts
August 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#269
I change my vote:

2. f4

+ Show Spoiler +
If I can't have my 1. d4, then we might as well as make it interesting right from the start.
wizard944
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
194 Posts
August 08 2011 01:46 GMT
#270
I vote Nf3
+ Show Spoiler +
Just as with e4, I believe that our strength in this game is our numbers and we should preserve this strength by playing the most standard moves possible as to not alienate any of our own team
Kassar DeTemplari
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 08 2011 01:58 GMT
#271
I vote Nc3
+ Show Spoiler +
setting up f4 on move 3. I like this version of the King's gambit better if Ng5 plays Nf6 on move 2.

YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
Mumu
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)56 Posts
August 08 2011 02:13 GMT
#272
2. Nf3
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
August 08 2011 02:17 GMT
#273
2.f4
+ Show Spoiler +
I like the idea of a more agressive game.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 02:20:17
August 08 2011 02:20 GMT
#274
setting up f4 on move 3. I like this version of the King's gambit better if Ng5 plays Nf6 on move 2.



oh dear can we refer to him as 'black' instead.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 08 2011 02:25 GMT
#275
On August 08 2011 11:20 gogogadgetflow wrote:
oh dear can we refer to him as 'black' instead.

You may, but either way please use spoiler tags when quoting something written in another person's spoilered justification.
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 02:34:21
August 08 2011 02:34 GMT
#276
On August 08 2011 10:46 wizard944 wrote:
I vote Nf3
+ Show Spoiler +
Just as with e4, I believe that our strength in this game is our numbers and we should preserve this strength by playing the most standard moves possible as to not alienate any of our own team

2. NF3
+ Show Spoiler +

I agree basically what wizard said here, we need to do stuff that everyone knows
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 02:53:31
August 08 2011 02:53 GMT
#277
2. Nf3

+ Show Spoiler +
Going King's Gambit usually leads to equality against an opponent who knows the theory. Plus, somewhat counterintuitively, more aggressive looking lines often lead to drawish positions because they're been analyzed to death and a single misstep can mean disaster, so there isn't as much room for creativity.

Ruy Lopez is one of the most complex openings and would be extremely instructive. Even the more boring lines like the Berlin Wall lead to very complex queenless endgames.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 08 2011 02:58 GMT
#278
2.Nf3
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 08 2011 03:01 GMT
#279
On August 08 2011 11:20 gogogadgetflow wrote:
oh dear can we refer to him as 'black' instead.


Sorry I'll refer to him as 'black' if u don't quote my spoiler
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
August 08 2011 03:02 GMT
#280
On August 08 2011 11:53 goldrush wrote:
2. Nf3

+ Show Spoiler +
Going King's Gambit usually leads to equality against an opponent who knows the theory. Plus, somewhat counterintuitively, more aggressive looking lines often lead to drawish positions because they're been analyzed to death and a single misstep can mean disaster, so there isn't as much room for creativity.

Ruy Lopez is one of the most complex openings and would be extremely instructive. Even the more boring lines like the Berlin Wall lead to very complex queenless endgames.


I felt like quoting this cuz I do appreciate the Ruy Lopez (been my standard opening since I was like 6).

My argument for f4 is as followers:

Ruy Lopez is great...if you are looking for a draw. Although it does produce an occasional gem (Eg Marshal's gambit), it is a very, very standard opening. We outnumber him though, let's use some special tactics and f4!
Write your own song!
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