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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11588 Posts
Other then that, you need to be more specific if you want more specific help. | ||
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Candadar
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Simberto
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Candadar
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On June 21 2012 23:07 Simberto wrote: Yes, but i hesitate recommending Austria because in addition to the normal mechanics of the game, you also have to deal with the HRE mechanics, and i'd say it is better to not introduce too much stuff at the same time. I dont get what the fuss is with the HRE. It's not TOO hard to pick up. People do shit, you slap their shit, you get authority and you can pass reforms. There's a lot more too it, but that's the barebones what you need to pick up to be successful. It's very reactionary. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On June 21 2012 07:27 Candadar wrote: That crushing moment when you realize you're too good for this game and there's no more challenge or fun. I got all my land by 1630 with a Cornwall start. The only reason it took me until 1630 was I forced myself to turn all of Iberia and France to Druidism and that took a few decades. The rest of the game was me influencing the map with my navy and armies and shit to make it look neat for a change. I could have very easily conquered all of Europe and Asia by 1800 if I really wanted to get behind it, but didn't want to spend all that time on x2 dealing with revolts tbh. I guess it's time to move onto other Grand Strat Games The results of my antics. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bVWhX.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5iCMU.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zjCim.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RUNzK.jpg) EDIT: Oh yeah, and I formed the Mughal's as Cornwall too. Forgot to mention that. That was fun. If anyone doesn't believe me I got pics of me owning all of the Persian group as Cornwall along with Iberia and France. maybe it's time for you to start playing multiplayer?  | ||
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Candadar
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On June 21 2012 23:40 anomalopidae wrote: maybe it's time for you to start playing multiplayer? I'm too much of a casual baby to not keep pausing. It's just the way I like to play, pausing to evaluate my situation a lot. It seems like it would be more monotonous if anything, cause the only real challenge that would come from it is not being able to get to provinces before the enemy armies after battles in late game so it would be whack a mole if anything. I'll probably start focusing more on Vicky 2 or HOI3 tbh | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/11/jan/paracon/magna.jpg) It seems we won't be getting the magna mundi stand alone game :/ I was looking forward to this ever since I tried the mod for EU3. Can't say I am shocked though, we hadn't heard anything about this in a long time and it was supposed to come out last year. Source: Magna Mundi Cancelled Due To Lack Of Progress | ||
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Simberto
Germany11588 Posts
On June 21 2012 23:29 Candadar wrote: I dont get what the fuss is with the HRE. It's not TOO hard to pick up. People do shit, you slap their shit, you get authority and you can pass reforms. There's a lot more too it, but that's the barebones what you need to pick up to be successful. It's very reactionary. Well, it's also the whole thing with not being able to just take land you like because of prestige/infamy and requests by the emperor, and the whole thing being a clusterfuck that gets half the nations involved into any war you do. And sure, you can pick up all of that, but why would you choose to have to pick up all of that, and maybe even horde mechanics too, when you don't even know the basic mechanics of warfare and diplomacy without complicating factors? Austria might make for a good second game once you know the basics, but there are so many different things at work in the HRE at once that it will be pretty hard to understand the consequences of what you are doing. | ||
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Candadar
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On June 22 2012 00:04 Ramong wrote: It seems we won't be getting the magna mundi stand alone game :/ I was looking forward to this ever since I tried the mod for EU3. Can't say I am shocked though, we hadn't heard anything about this in a long time and it was supposed to come out last year. Source: Magna Mundi Cancelled Due To Lack Of Progress Have you seen the shit that's been leaked of it? It looks horrible. Not surprised at all tbh. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/i6P0s.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PlyBH.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CBDdC.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uWDXa.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/557P0.jpg) On June 22 2012 00:17 Simberto wrote: Well, it's also the whole thing with not being able to just take land you like because of prestige/infamy and requests by the emperor, and the whole thing being a clusterfuck that gets half the nations involved into any war you do. And sure, you can pick up all of that, but why would you choose to have to pick up all of that, and maybe even horde mechanics too, when you don't even know the basic mechanics of warfare and diplomacy without complicating factors? Austria might make for a good second game once you know the basics, but there are so many different things at work in the HRE at once that it will be pretty hard to understand the consequences of what you are doing. I've always had the philosophy the best way to learn is to lose. I know plenty of people who started off, lord help them, with Meckleburg and Lithuania and Leinster and they learned their shit fast. While I do support Castille being a good baby nation that eases you into many of the games mechanics very nicely, I also feel that many of the great aspects of this game is the learning process and constantly losing. I can't imagine how different my game experience would have been if I just eased into the game with babbies first nation as like Portugal or something instead of having my rude awakening as the Golden Horde I dunno. If you want to maximize learning effectiveness and shit, go for Castille definitely. You can learn basically every aspect, even the HRE, starting from that and it will ease you in. I personally don't encourage people to fret over learning the game too fast because once you know it, the game loses all difficulty and the only fun left is doing absolutely ridiculous things and that gets old tbh. Enjoy the process, pick what looks fun, and the rest will come to you. However, I do say this. Start on Normal. Very Easy and Easy don't punish you enough for doing stupid shit and don't properly show you the consequences to your actions and you won't be prepared to deal with certain things when you move up. Normal is the most balanced mode tbh. Turn off lucky nations and just have fun. Like just said, this is a difficult game with a lot of intricacies (not nearly as much as other paradox games, granted) and is a great starting point for the latter paradox games. However, it's still just a video game and not a "competitive" one at that. Just jump in and have fun, and don't worry about "learning" it proper. /end rant | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
I've seen the videos and the interface was pretty decent I just feel sorry for MM team since they reworked perfectly fine map cause some people thought it didn't look good, no wonder they couldn't fix bugs then | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 22 2012 00:42 anomalopidae wrote: you realise that picture is alpha? I've seen the videos and the interface was pretty decent I just feel sorry for MM team since they reworked perfectly fine map cause some people thought it didn't look good, no wonder they couldn't fix bugs then But vanilla map is terrible once you've used glorious DAO. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?513517-Devlet-i-Ali-Osman DAO + Miscmods = hnnnnnng best game ever | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?548828-Death-and-Taxes-(Stronger-Sliders-Ideas-Unique-Missions-Decisions-and-More!) | ||
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Candadar
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I find miscmods gives great addition to the game while still keeping it to a vanilla feel, and there's a version out there that gives you the DAO map you get in D&T as well. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
Also the latest version (which I havent had time to play yet really), appears to have gone away from the DAO map and done some in-house map changes. Apparently China and India had huge re-works. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
Here's a link to that miscmods + DAO thing. The original Miscmods is not compatible with the full DAO map for trigger reasons, but this guy took the time to make it compatible and it's really nice. You still need to have .799 miscmods installed in your mods folder for some flags to show up, because this isn't a full mod but a compatibility more or less for DAO map. However, you only need to select this on your mod dropdown menu. As long as you have the same version of miscmods dropped in your mods folder it should work. + Show Spoiler + tldr; put miscmods .799 in your modfolder. put the mediafire download in your modfolder. select dao miscmods from your drop down menu for mods, and press play If you like the vanilla map, just use regular miscmods too. It's the same thing but with the vanilla map http://www.mediafire.com/?a6m97farse65mqq D&T just makes the game too easy in some places, and changes it too much in others. MiscMods adds three AMAZING 1399 scenarios, a bunch of new countries and religions and more dynamic religions and more awesomely it completely revamps colonization making it FAR more dynamic. I've been using Miscmods (and recently Miscmods + DAO) for about...eh 7 months now and I've never, in addition to turning lucky nations off, had random blobbing like Russian Castille and English Greece. In fact, I get some pretty fucking cool worlds, like Pommeria and Belgium fighting for control over North America. It makes a lot of changes that balances and makes the game more interesting, without taking away the "vanilla feels", which I personally love. D&T was fun in the sense that you could do ridiculous shit in it, but it makes the game even more simplistic in many compounding ways that I feel isn't necessary for an already easy, gateway game for Paradox titles. I do like the China changes they've done, I will give it that however. And it does a lot of other cool things, but it's just a bunch of small things that build up that turn me off. EDIT: And here's a link to the mod itself too http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?528878-MiscMods-Alternate-scenarios!-Dynamic-colonies! | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
Ill give the Misc mods a try though. Some of their scenarios look intrguing to me. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 22 2012 21:37 BloodNinja wrote: Yeah, the free tier one buildings are pretty broken as well. The only missions I can recall that gave cores out the ass were "Italian Ambitions" and the one for England to take Paris. Both of which are apart of Vanilla EU. Also, I never had issues with countries taking horrible peace deals (atleast not your issue). Every game I had played of it had much the opposite, I would have to wipe out a countries military and siege of up the nation at a minimum to take land in a peace deal. Ill give the Misc mods a try though. Some of their scenarios look intrguing to me. Meh, I guess that's why it's just anecdotal evidence then. But now I get to try to understand dat Vicky 2, which is going to be fun. | ||
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Candadar
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