EPTwalking in the general direction of the enemy and then setting them on fire requires skill
pyro 4 lyfe o/
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
walking in the general direction of the enemy and then setting them on fire requires skill pyro 4 lyfe o/ | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + pyro imba | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
Being a medic is a sacrifice that won't get you frags, but if your team does not have med/heavy combos, it is almost impossible to cap or push good teams. You may be able to scam a few with spies/scouts, if the opponents are poor, but for solid play you need medic/heavies. Spies/snipers - these classes are usually liabilities, particularly with players of low skills. Bad spies will get pwned by a good spy-checking Pyro, and is fairly ineffective. Now good spies aren't that prevalent, but you will know when they are on your server - and even more if you don't have good pyros on your team. A bad sniper, however, is probably the most useless class in the game. I'm speaking as an average sniper, mind you. Bad snipers easily waste 2-3 spots on your team - I've seen teams with as many as 5 bad snipers at once. The sniper's #1 target is to remove the opposing team's snipers first, then heavy/medics, etc. When you have low-skill snipers, they aren't even able to counter-snipe, which means free pickings for the opposing snipers. Good luck getting that heavy to the front line. Really the game is balanced not be weapons, but by teamwork. This game, more than any other, is imbalanced only because the players choose to stack teams. It's up to you whether you choose to join servers which force team balance or not. That said, scramble usually makes the stacking worse...so that area still needs work lol. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
A bad sniper, however, is probably the most useless class in the game. I'm speaking as an average sniper, mind you. Bad snipers easily waste 2-3 spots on your team - I've seen teams with as many as 5 bad snipers at once. The sniper's #1 target is to remove the opposing team's snipers first, then heavy/medics, etc. When you have low-skill snipers, they aren't even able to counter-snipe, which means free pickings for the opposing snipers. Good luck getting that heavy to the front line. I've been playing sniper, and I can countersnipe really well and get the headshots I need to. This leads me to ask, who do I focus down first- medis, pyro, engies, or what? | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:12 Dalguno wrote: I've been playing sniper, and I can countersnipe really well and get the headshots I need to. This leads me to ask, who do I focus down first- medis, pyro, engies, or what? Medics and if you can see an engie at his sentry whom you can headshot, then him. Then everything else you can see. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:12 Dalguno wrote: I've been playing sniper, and I can countersnipe really well and get the headshots I need to. This leads me to ask, who do I focus down first- medis, pyro, engies, or what? Kill Medics first. Then kill good enemy snipers if any are immediate threats. Then start killing the slower, high-HP classes. Just don't play Sniper if there are already a couple snipers on your team...even if those snipers are terrible. Seen way too many games lost because too many people think that they're better snipers or spies than all those other idiots down on the scoreboard... Wish there was a plugin that limited the maximum number of Snipers to the number of Medics currently on the team. Two birds with one stone. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:22 acker wrote: Kill Medics first. Then kill good enemy snipers if any are immediate threats. Then start killing the slower, high-HP classes. Just don't play Sniper if there are already a couple snipers on your team...even if those snipers are terrible. Seen way too many games lost because too many people think that they're better snipers or spies than all those other idiots down on the scoreboard... Wish there was a plugin that limited the maximum number of Snipers to the number of Medics currently on the team. Two birds with one stone. Some servers have class limits. I.e. 2-max each of engi's and snipers. There is a alot of variance between servers (skill-level, admins, troll tolerance, etc.). For newbies, I'd definitely some time trying out alot of servers before you settle on a home. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:42 mav451 wrote: Some servers have class limits. I.e. 2-max each of engi's and snipers. There is a alot of variance between servers (skill-level, admins, troll tolerance, etc.). For newbies, I'd definitely some time trying out alot of servers before you settle on a home. I play on Lion's Den most of the time, and I'm fairly certain they have a class limiter (their auto-balance is terrible, but that's another story). However, I've yet to see a server with a class limiter that varies depending on the current team composition. For example, it's still possible to get 2 Snipers and no Medics with a normal class limiter plugin, even if the teams only have eight players. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
The game breaks at higher player counts, as well as only 4 of 9 classes being technically demanding( scout, sniper, soldier, demoman ) this leaves other classes to fall on the wayside. The game is fun, but lacks depth. | ||
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
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Shrub
49 Posts
On June 29 2011 04:18 Zeroes wrote: what is the best way to farm kills on strange weapons? Playing the game. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:09 mav451 wrote:Being a medic is a sacrifice that won't get you frags, but if your team does not have med/heavy combos, it is almost impossible to cap or push good teams. You may be able to scam a few with spies/scouts, if the opponents are poor, but for solid play you need medic/heavies. I wouldn't say close to impossible... solider/demoman can replace the heavy fairly well. Yeah, it usually works much better with one good heavy, but I think it's more a matter of the skill of the person than the class itself. Although heavy, solider, and demoman usually do best under slightly different circumstances. I agree with the general idea of your post though. Engineers are not that great. Usually it is easy enough to blow up their stuff as a demoman if you're smart about it, even without an uber, unless your team has been doing very poorly and they've had a lot of time to setup. In general, I find myself switching to whatever class is needed the most. 60-70% of the time that is demoman, because it seems like there are very few demomen that aren't using a shield/sword combo, and those that aren't don't necessarily have any idea how to blow up sentries effectively. Heavy and medic probably take up 25% of my time combined. The one class there is always way too many of is snipers. The only time I feel the need to be one is when all 4-5 of the current snipers can't kill enemy snipers at all, or there's 10 or so heavies on the other team. Also, whoever called heavies a low skill ceiling class is pretty far off. Heavies do a ton of damage, but if you aren't smart about it, there are so many ways to die. A backstab, a headshot from a sniper, demomen/soldiers, etc. How and when you choose to spinup is a pretty big deal, and when to stop spinning is too. Surviving as a heavy for a long time and inflicting a lot of damage is a pretty subtle thing that I very rarely see people doing well. Although the Tomislav might have changed that a bit. | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
Oh, and stop playing TF2 like it's a tacticool shooter. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:19 Soulish wrote: I dont understand the sniping "charge" function. I couldnt kill anything at all when I just quickscope like i do in soldierfront, but now I just walk around with the scope on pretty much and i headshot everything. It's easy, but a really stupid way to play imo. If by quickscope you mean zoom in and instantly click, they patched that out long time ago. You have to wait like 100 ms or something and then shoot. | ||
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nemo14
United States425 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:19 Soulish wrote: I dont understand the sniping "charge" function. I couldnt kill anything at all when I just quickscope like i do in soldierfront, but now I just walk around with the scope on pretty much and i headshot everything. It's easy, but a really stupid way to play imo. The entire point of the sniper rifle's charge is to prevent all of the good players from exclusively playing Sniper and insta-killing everyone they meet at any range. The good folks at Valve know that reliable and instantaneous one-shot kills do not engender fun gameplay for the vast majority of players. | ||
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Ghostpvp
United States462 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:58 nemo14 wrote: The entire point of the sniper rifle's charge is to prevent all of the good players from exclusively playing Sniper and insta-killing everyone they meet at any range. The good folks at Valve know that reliable and instantaneous one-shot kills do not engender fun gameplay for the vast majority of players. That was annoying, yes. But it wasn't to fix the good players insta-gibbing everyone. It fixed the legions of terrible snipers taking kills they really didn't deserve. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36399 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:09 Hot_Bid wrote: i am really, really, really bad at this game Only a real man could be this brutally honest. | ||
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Greatness
United States450 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:09 Hot_Bid wrote: i am really, really, really bad at this game No you're not. I saw you play Portal, you're very gosu at all the games Valve makes. | ||
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