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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
March 31 2013 19:28 GMT
#5681
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
March 31 2013 19:35 GMT
#5682
rofl that draw was hype
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 19:46 GMT
#5683
On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own


Players play characters, not the other way around.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
March 31 2013 19:48 GMT
#5684
Well that was boring.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 19:49 GMT
#5685
Good for Ryan Hart though, it's been awhile since he's had such a good tournament.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
March 31 2013 19:53 GMT
#5686
First set was so hype. Could've gone either way at that point.

On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own

Sagat vs Akuma has always been a bad matchup. Akuma is good and some of his moves could do with a little less frame advantage, but I don't think he's strictly better than cammy/fei/seth.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
March 31 2013 19:53 GMT
#5687
On April 01 2013 04:46 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own


Players play characters, not the other way around.

you really think infiltration is that much better than everybody else? not only winning every major hes entered for ages, but running a train through every other top player? he is certainly good, but nobody can be 100% winrate good in a fighting game like sf4 at this stage without a broken character. There are billions of reasons why akuma is broken, if you cant see that you just lack understanding of basic sf4 mechanics.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
March 31 2013 19:57 GMT
#5688
Or, he's really good, his character is good and he had a favorable matchup against someone he knows really well

Akuma's good no doubt, but people throw out "broken" without being able to really grasp what it really is

ST akuma, now that's broken.
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 20:01 GMT
#5689
On April 01 2013 04:53 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:46 Cel.erity wrote:
On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own


Players play characters, not the other way around.

you really think infiltration is that much better than everybody else? not only winning every major hes entered for ages, but running a train through every other top player? he is certainly good, but nobody can be 100% winrate good in a fighting game like sf4 at this stage without a broken character. There are billions of reasons why akuma is broken, if you cant see that you just lack understanding of basic sf4 mechanics.


No character in SF4 is even close to being broken, get out of here with your ad hominems and scrubby balance whining. Infiltration is pretty obviously the best player in the world, in an era where the previous top players have been concentrating less and less on the game.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 20:03:34
March 31 2013 20:01 GMT
#5690
I don't really think that's true. Infiltration is obviously really good. No one's trying to take that away from him. But there are a lot of good players who can't do like anything at all against his Akuma, who get run through like they aren't even there. And to be honest, when he plays other characters, Infiltration seems pretty normal, like what I'd expect a top-tier player to look like. Excellent skills, capable of dropping rounds occasionally. He didn't show anything particularly amazing against Knuckledu, for instance. With Akuma he genuinely looks untouchable. It's like watching the Tour de France, but everyone else is wearing snowsuits and riding moutain bikes, and he's got a carbon-fiber frame with wheels that weigh half an ounce.

Edit: I'm not saying Akuma is broken, I just think the character is too strong, especially relative to characters in the middle tiers. Also buff Yang please.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
March 31 2013 20:06 GMT
#5691
Well the basic problem is that no top players play Akuma's hard matchups (Cammy, Ibuki) and until they do, Infiltration will continue to run riot.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
March 31 2013 20:09 GMT
#5692
Best Vortex, best pressure escape, best dp, best sweep, best walk speed of the entire cast.
Here are his "weak" points (as in not undebatedly best of the entire cast but merely S tier):
Normals, Ultra/Super, Combo Damage/Stun, Keepaway game... Yeah right... You tellin me this is all offset by low health/stun??? I dont care if you wanna call it broken or not, but hes clearly in a class of his own. The other supposedly S-Tier characters have all some flaws while akuma is flat out best at many key aspects of the game and among the absolute top in the rest. Its clearly BS.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 31 2013 20:40 GMT
#5693
On April 01 2013 05:06 Incognitodies wrote:
Well the basic problem is that no top players play Akuma's hard matchups (Cammy, Ibuki) and until they do, Infiltration will continue to run riot.


We need to get Sakonoto to play good in tournaments.. T_T
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
March 31 2013 20:47 GMT
#5694
On April 01 2013 05:40 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 05:06 Incognitodies wrote:
Well the basic problem is that no top players play Akuma's hard matchups (Cammy, Ibuki) and until they do, Infiltration will continue to run riot.


We need to get Sakonoto to play good in tournaments.. T_T

He's too busy hiding his true power level and secret kunoichi techniques.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
March 31 2013 21:44 GMT
#5695
Twitch VODs for Top 8 AE are up for those who missed it.

http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky/b/384780861 - skip to 4:55:22.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 22:31 GMT
#5696
Sako is family man status for while now and somehow when i see him play in foreign majors i don't see him enjoying it as much, certainly not to the degree Mago, Tokido, and Gamerbee do.

On April 01 2013 05:09 diehilde wrote:
Best Vortex, best pressure escape, best dp, best sweep, best walk speed of the entire cast.
Here are his "weak" points (as in not undebatedly best of the entire cast but merely S tier):
Normals, Ultra/Super, Combo Damage/Stun, Keepaway game... Yeah right... You tellin me this is all offset by low health/stun??? I dont care if you wanna call it broken or not, but hes clearly in a class of his own. The other supposedly S-Tier characters have all some flaws while akuma is flat out best at many key aspects of the game and among the absolute top in the rest. Its clearly BS.


Needs a command grab to be broken Kappa
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 22:43:45
March 31 2013 22:35 GMT
#5697
So lame, I missed AE. Does anyone know if there are vods?

Edit: Just saw someone posted the vods. Looking forwards!

On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own


Infiltration too strong, not Akuma. Check out Infiltration's ryu vs Ricky Ortiz. He is just a monster.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 22:40 GMT
#5698
Oh my god that shirt lmao
Fan of the Jangbanger
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 31 2013 22:47 GMT
#5699
On April 01 2013 04:53 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 04:46 Cel.erity wrote:
On April 01 2013 04:28 diehilde wrote:
fucking akuma... honestly all they need to do for the update is nerf akuma and buff the low tiers, this is getting ridiculous... Why are cammy seth or fei always mentioned as s-tier along akuma? thats just bs, akuma is a fuckin tier of his own


Players play characters, not the other way around.

you really think infiltration is that much better than everybody else? not only winning every major hes entered for ages, but running a train through every other top player? he is certainly good, but nobody can be 100% winrate good in a fighting game like sf4 at this stage without a broken character. There are billions of reasons why akuma is broken, if you cant see that you just lack understanding of basic sf4 mechanics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wongba/Justin_Wong#Marvel_vs._Capcom_2

http://zachd.com/mvc2/history/MvC2_history_tournament_results.txt
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
April 01 2013 04:13 GMT
#5700


Ryan Hart vs Sanford Kelly ft5 $20 MM.

The ending discussion was pretty funny. Sanford: "I have the better rushdown". Ryan: "When i saw you play Rog you didn't rush down anyone." Sanford: "Cuz he had Fei Long."

Ryan: "When I had Mago I battered him."

GG SON.
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