Hello Team Liquid Civilization V players! In the spirit of Energizer's Civ 4 succession game, I will host one for Civ 5. If you would like to view or participate in the Civ 4 game, go here. We will vote on all the game settings before I start the game; the only things we will not vote on are game speed (Standard), and which leader we will use, who will be random!
Q: So, how does it work? A: After someone plays for a period of 40 turns, that person will save the game and send it to the next person in the list to play his round. Once you have saved the game and sent it to the next person in the list, you are STRONGLY encouraged to post what you did and why and anything notable to alert to other players (IE Diplomatic relationships, scouting information, economic situation, general state of the game)
Q: How many total players can play in one game? A: Based on previous succession games and noting how they went, I'll be putting a cap on this one for 12. If there is a large enough surplus, we might even have 2 teams of 12 both with the same game to see who does better.
Q: How do we know the order of who gets to play? A: The first 12 to PM me or post below expressing their intent to play will be put on a list (edited in the main thread) in order of whose messages got to me first. First come, first serve
Q: How long do I have to respond once I receive the last save of the game? A: You have 48 hours to reply via thread you have the game and when you will be playing it next. If you don't respond in that time, then you are skipped and the next person goes instead. If you're skipped 3 consecutive times, then you'll be dropped from the list.
Q: What version of Civilization will we be using? A: We shall be using the latest Civ 5 Patch, 1.0.1.275. No DLC, except the free Mongolia Civ. No Babylon, Inca, Spain, etc. This is to ensure that no one will have to spend money to play our game.
Q: What do I do when I'm totally lost? A: Well, ask us! The point of this succession game is so that everyone has fun and learns some new tricks! There is no harm in asking what to do in-thread.
The intent of this is the play the game in a different way than normal, and to have fun! You may even pick up a few tips and/or builds to try in your own games! Remember, first come first serve! If you're interested, first 12 to PM me or post their interest get to play the first game!
UPDATE: The Signups so far Spearwrit Casta Blazinghand Furycrab TrinitySC Babyfactory Oblivion753 rambomcfantastic
Lastly, feel free to discuss the game or the concept. We need the bumps so that more people can see. I look forward to the responses! Let's have some fun!
On May 26 2011 06:14 Casta wrote: I'm up for it, usually play epic speed but standard is fine I guess.
I just put standard because 40 turns on that speed is enough to make substantial changes and play around with the fruits of your labor before passing it on to the next person. Also, tech research is generally more speedy on standard as well. My intent is to start out a game, and hope that the community picks up on this idea to perpetuate it and make more games. But, If more people want a speed other than standard, I can change that too.
I would but I can't bear to play this game that isn't modded to hell. I've been playing a heavily modded version for so long it would just be unbearable and be playing a completely new game if I were to revert back.
On May 26 2011 06:48 Fruscainte wrote: I would but I can't bear to play this game that isn't modded to hell. I've been playing a heavily modded version for so long it would just be unbearable and be playing a completely new game if I were to revert back.
What mod do you play? I've been looking for something similar to Ryze & Fall from Civ4.
On May 26 2011 06:48 Fruscainte wrote: I would but I can't bear to play this game that isn't modded to hell. I've been playing a heavily modded version for so long it would just be unbearable and be playing a completely new game if I were to revert back.
Hey bro, different strokes for different folks. It's all good; You are welcome to (and I hope you do) spectate though.
This sounds like fun. I can't really commit to playing because my schedule is going to be hectic for some time, but I'm definitely going to be following what you guys are doing in this thread.
On May 26 2011 06:48 Fruscainte wrote: I would but I can't bear to play this game that isn't modded to hell. I've been playing a heavily modded version for so long it would just be unbearable and be playing a completely new game if I were to revert back.
Hey bro, different strokes for different folks. It's all good; You are welcome to (and I hope you do) spectate though.
Oh I will, I used to read up on these succession games all the time when they were more popular around here.
If it gets super popular again, I may get used to the old version and play it with ya'll sometime.
People voting Emperor or Deity Difficulty for real or just to troll? When I play for fun, lately I play on King, and even then I need a fairly specific game plan or I'll end up smoked pretty quickly. The AIs on Emperor/Deity will start banding together to smack you 2v1 if you even just expand aggressively. Whoever played the first 40 turns would have to do something epic if it's going to turn into a decent game.
I might join in the fun if it's not too complicated and just involves me playing a few turns .
(According to steam stats, less than 5% of players have finished the game on King or higher on any map size or type or victory condition)
On May 26 2011 11:11 Furycrab wrote: People voting Emperor or Deity Difficulty for real or just to troll? When I play for fun, lately I play on King, and even then I need a fairly specific game plan or I'll end up smoked pretty quickly. The AIs on Emperor/Deity will start banding together to smack you 2v1 if you even just expand aggressively. Whoever played the first 40 turns would have to do something epic if it's going to turn into a decent game.
I might join in the fun if it's not too complicated and just involves me playing a few turns .
(According to steam stats, less than 5% of players have finished the game on King or higher on any map size or type or victory condition)
I've won games on Emperor and Immortal, and not just through war. Even if it ends up being Deity, it won't be too hard to me, especially if the map is huge.
Honestly I find King the most enjoyable. Anything below is too easy, but much higher and the AIs just start acting overly hostile and start with like 2-3 cities already established. If only higher difficulty modes made the AI... smarter? Whoooo wouldn't that be nice, lol.
What game speed would you guys decide on? I find on the longer modes, military conquest is muuuch easier. Almost unbalances the game in favor of domination victories over other ones.
On May 26 2011 21:50 Haemonculus wrote: Honestly I find King the most enjoyable. Anything below is too easy, but much higher and the AIs just start acting overly hostile and start with like 2-3 cities already established. If only higher difficulty modes made the AI... smarter? Whoooo wouldn't that be nice, lol.
What game speed would you guys decide on? I find on the longer modes, military conquest is muuuch easier. Almost unbalances the game in favor of domination victories over other ones.
There's sorta a limit to how much smarter you can make the AI without finding loopholes in it.
This game I think the issue is that the computer is poor at judging when it's overextending and a bit poor at judging the tactical elements of a field. If you can survive that initial push and don't get caught by surprise, it's decently easy to smack em back into submission. However, I'd have a hard time making an AI that won't sometimes overextend without having it flat out cheat.
However this time around I think they put more emphasis on having the AI know when to react to you. Like if I expand too fast, they know that if they don't do something now I'll smack em around later and they immediately start trying to team up against ya... Which I find is kinda fair. However then I make sure my cities have nice chokes and pelt em down as they go thru it hehe. Mountains are OP.
I'm definitely down for this. Personally, I feel like Emperor is a comfortable difficulty to win at, but Deity will be a nice challenge to tackle, I suppose.
also, Fractal map is best map. considering how that's not a choice.. i guess continents ><
Edit: btw, what's the general opinion here on NC starts? Personally, I love them, and with Siam you can get some pretty nice bonuses on top of it to boost you to a comfortable tech lead, even on Immortal difficulty.
On May 27 2011 03:34 TrinitySC wrote: I'm definitely down for this. Personally, I feel like Emperor is a comfortable difficulty to win at, but Deity will be a nice challenge to tackle, I suppose.
also, Fractal map is best map. considering how that's not a choice.. i guess continents ><
Edit: btw, what's the general opinion here on NC starts? Personally, I love them, and with Siam you can get some pretty nice bonuses on top of it to boost you to a comfortable tech lead, even on Immortal difficulty.
I like NC start in general, but sometimes I expand to a max 4 city empire before building the NC if the immediate area has some nice luxuries and I want to grab them fast. 4 city because you get a free monument in them with the tradition policy and you don't want to delay the NC too much.
National College (for those who didn't know NC) starts are basically all I do lol. It's such a solid opener that you can use with many different policy starts. The best thing about it is that once your NC is up, your Science amount won't go down whether you decide to expand or not. I've won a couple of One City Challenge games using NC start on Emperor+ difficulty.
I do like the 4 city Tradition ----> Legalism opener too if there are lots of luxuries nearby. It's a good opener that also allows for early NC that can produce more science than a one city NC start. Using it with Siam can be downright abusive if you time it right with Education (think, FREE WATS).
I usually go Liberty --> Citizenship --> Meritocracy. This way I can get a free worker and great person without having to worry about hard building a worker. I usually get a GE to pop the Great Library too, while I'm at it for GE points AND free tech. But for this game, since it's probably going to be Deity, I'll probably use a GS to pop Theology to the quick slingshot to Medieval era, since the other civs can quite easily win the Great Library race.
Nice, and a river! that will be valuable once we get civil service. Opening fast NC into expo is probably the best strat. We can chop forests or something to rush the NC since we're near hills for production.
I decided to settle on the Silver in the SE, where I could get access to fish (which I found), wheat and forests for production, after some border pops. Went for Scout ---> Monument Started with Mining, but popped it with a ruin! On Deity! Whaaaaat?? So then I did Pottery ---> Writing. Going for NC start.
I got pretty lucky with ruins this time. In addition to Tech, I got
+1 Pop
+Culture, went Liberty---> Citizenship, and (no screeny) Barb encampment locations.
Eventually I run into my neighbors. Say hello to these ugly characters!
Gandhi to my SW, Askia to my W, still haven't found Darius yet. I suspect he may be to our South. Helsinski is the only City State I have met so far. Maritime ftw.
After Writing popped, I sold our Open Borders to the friendly civs (Askia and Darius) for 50g each. Then, borrowed 90g for 4gpt from Gandhi. Bugger still isn't friendly for 50g open borders, so I had to wait a few turns to buy the Library. This will set us back a little (sorry guys >.<) with the NC, and reduce the chances of us being able to rush the Great Library.
Now that those are done, I turn to our next tech path: Animal Husbandry --> Trapping --> Philosophy.
We have horses! I suggest getting stables asap.
We were in the negative gpt, so I bought back our 4 and then some from Askia with our Silver.
Then this joker shows up with his shiny bald head and a proposition.
I turned him down. We don't want to start playing the politics game and taking sides this early in the game when we can still get gold from people as friendly without DoFs. Plus there isn't anyone right next to us, so DoF with anyone isn't of any concern to us at this time.
After clearing the Barb encampment near us (forewarned by our goody hut turns ago), we could choose our next policy, Meritocracy. I debated on selecting a GE to rush the Great Library, but remembered how I blundered buying the library a few turns. So I chose a GS. Lo and behold, I was right! The very next turn someone else built the GL.
I suggest using him to pop Theology after Philosophy finishes to push us into the Medieval era. After that, if we find more city states, we can put into the Patronage tree to get us Scholasticism and bank our science on that. I am also in favor of quickly expanding to grab the luxuries out there as an alternative as well.
State of the World as of Turn 42 (yes, I went over a couple turns ):
Looks pretty good although Suleiman is like the worst leader we could get lol :D
Ivory, marble and a ton of silk to the west, doesn't look too bad. Good call to skip the great library, I almost always give up on wonders in the start at diety setting anyway, just too much of a gamble. Looking forward to seeing how our glorius empire will evolve next
I generally like the piety tree for some happiness/culture gain and eventually some bonus policies, what about you guys?
On May 28 2011 15:04 Casta wrote: Looks pretty good although Suleiman is like the worst leader we could get lol :D
Ivory, marble and a ton of silk to the west, doesn't look too bad. Good call to skip the great library, I almost always give up on wonders in the start at diety setting anyway, just too much of a gamble. Looking forward to seeing how our glorius empire will evolve next
I generally like the piety tree for some happiness/culture gain and eventually some bonus policies, what about you guys?
Could have been worse, we could've gotten Elizabeth (and it's not Archipelago >.<)! lol
Well I think it is up to you to direct our glorious empire, because State has passed! Good luck!
On May 28 2011 15:17 State wrote: Oh.. I don't actually think I'm good enough to play this on Deity. Afraid I'll hold you guys back.
Sorry about that, I'm just going to withdraw. Best of luck!
Ah...good chap! See my signature! Who dares, wins, young lad! But that's okay. We'll not ridicule you for lacking spherical fortitude in the nether region. :D
Sorry for this aside, but I have not touched Civ 5 much since release, and I was wondering... Did the last few patches really make much of a difference?
After all the patches and expansions BTS was pretty great, and Civ5 obviously has and I'm sure still has a lot of issues, so I'm just wondering what people's perceptions are.
Anyway, this looks pretty cool, if I had actually played recently I'd hop in but I'm not up to par with all the new stuff like the changes to the policy trees!
On May 28 2011 15:04 Casta wrote: Looks pretty good although Suleiman is like the worst leader we could get lol :D
Ivory, marble and a ton of silk to the west, doesn't look too bad. Good call to skip the great library, I almost always give up on wonders in the start at diety setting anyway, just too much of a gamble. Looking forward to seeing how our glorius empire will evolve next
I generally like the piety tree for some happiness/culture gain and eventually some bonus policies, what about you guys?
Could have been worse, we could've gotten Elizabeth (and it's not Archipelago >.<)! lol
Well I think it is up to you to direct our glorious empire, because State has passed! Good luck!
Thanks, I will post my turns late sunday or maybe monday (CEST) because I can't play before then.
Wow...fail on my part. Totally forgot to uncheck the DLC. What should we do now? Is there something we can do to fix this? Did you want to make a new game, Casta?
the only DLC I have is the mongolia DLC. If this uses a free DLC, I'm fine-- but if it requires a costed DLC it might be better if we redo it (and it's an excuse not to be sulieman!)
On May 30 2011 03:48 SpearWrit wrote: Wow...fail on my part. Totally forgot to uncheck the DLC. What should we do now? Is there something we can do to fix this? Did you want to make a new game, Casta?
I am not entirely sure how to disable a dlc when playing the game.
Read some stuff about it and it seems it doesn't matter if the particular civ is in the game or not, the savegame will still require the dlcs you have installed.
Also tried some program that should have fixed the save, but in the end it didn't work.
It is an old thread so maybe the program is just out of date, anyway I don't know how to update it.
The problem may be that Babylon is actually in our game, concerning the tool. I do not know how to make so that we can continue this game. I will have to restart it, with handpicked non-DLC civs.
Edit: I did it. Try this one. We're Mongolia, and all the other Civs are not DLC civs. TL.net Succession
On May 30 2011 05:38 SpearWrit wrote: The problem may be that Babylon is actually in our game, concerning the tool. I do not know how to make so that we can continue this game. I will have to restart it, with handpicked non-DLC civs.
Edit: I did it. Try this one. We're Mongolia, and all the other Civs are not DLC civs. TL.net Succession
Same thing, the save requires babylon dlc.
Tried the tool again and it still didn't work, so unless we figure out some way to disable dlcs completely from the game I don't think we can play the same succession game :/
Casta, if you like, you can start one up so that you and the others can play. I'd hate to spoil our fun because of a design flaw that the developers didn't have the foresight to prevent.
On May 30 2011 14:32 SpearWrit wrote: Casta, if you like, you can start one up so that you and the others can play. I'd hate to spoil our fun because of a design flaw that the developers didn't have the foresight to prevent.
I have one dlc myself, Denmark, so I fear it won't matter.
I read somewhere though that if someone without any dlc start a game, anybody (dlc or not) should be able to load the save and be able to save the game without commiting dlc requirements to it. We could try this as a last resort, else I think I will have to withdraw as well.
I kid, I kid. I think this would take an extremely long time and would only suit the most patient of the patient. I can't see myself playing a game that long, especially if I was one of the later players to play. 50 turns in the beginning of the game is like 1 turn in the late game.
Hi! Saw this thread and thought I might help out, I made a game with random leader, huge continents map, diety difficulty, standard pace, and touched nothing in advanced options.
I haven't played this game since a bit after release, but steam updated it to 1.0.1.275 with 1 DLC (Civ and Scenario Pack - Mongols, Genghis Kh...something something).
Starting area looks like this:
The only thing that makes me a bit hesitant to post this is the following quote...
On May 28 2011 17:15 SpearWrit wrote: Could have been worse, we could've gotten Elizabeth (and it's not Archipelago >.<)! lol
Tell me if it works, both file host and playing the file, don't mind re-creating it if I missed some setting (random personalities? victory conditions?) or if Elizabeth really is that bad
Thanks a bunch Danjoh your save works and I have checked that my continuation save does not give any dlc requirements to it, so next in line can use it :D
So this is the start Basicly Elizabeth in a world of trees and tundra, not the best start one could have hoped for but the deers sort of make it playable. It can't be seen on above screenshot, but we have marble a little to the SW.
Start position didn't offer any mining luxuries so I decided to just tech straight for writing. As a result I didn't have much in terms of money so I was miles away from hurrying the library, but the city got a decent production overall. After building a scout, a monument and a granary our city looks like this
The granary seriously helped our food production on the deers, happy times. During scouting I met Caesar, Hiawatha, Oda and Alexander. I sold open borders to them all, but were still kind of low on cash. The start of turn 41 looks like this: Not exactly the easiest start I had, but let's see how it plays out
I hope i am not too late, but i would love to join in on this. I have been playing CIv since the 2nd game so i know my way around. (Although Civ 5 is different from the others, much different) If you guys are still looking for players you can count me in. FYI: I have all DCL's so shouldnt be any issues
2nd Warrior comes to help first warrior, since he's busy fortifying to heal. If I don't take out this barb camp before they get spears it will plague me for all time.
Victory at last! No Casualties
Now, to settle a 2nd city where I can get some silk, fish... and it's a safe spot, too.
BUT INSTEAD I DERP AND GO OVER HERE. Its a fine city location, but it's way too far away to defend...
OH GOD a roman trollsettler has come to take the spot between my two cities!?!
You've gotta be freaking kidding me. This isn't even near his empire... it's just here to troll me.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME THE ONLY REASON WE SHARE A BORDER IS BECAUSE OF YOUR FUCKING CITY
god... i'm so boned....
I quickly look for powerful allies.....
These two are the only I can afford.
I can only hope they arrive in time to stop the mighty Roman Army...
Just before the first shots of the war are fired, it's turn 81... and my tenure is over. I hope to god the next player is a master level Civ5 player, you need all the help you can get.
I've blocked out a couple research routes so that when the research treaty finishes around turn 95, it'll give us civil service.
2nd Warrior comes to help first warrior, since he's busy fortifying to heal. If I don't take out this barb camp before they get spears it will plague me for all time.
Victory at last! No Casualties
Now, to settle a 2nd city where I can get some silk, fish... and it's a safe spot, too.
BUT INSTEAD I DERP AND GO OVER HERE. Its a fine city location, but it's way too far away to defend...
OH GOD a roman trollsettler has come to take the spot between my two cities!?!
You've gotta be freaking kidding me. This isn't even near his empire... it's just here to troll me.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME THE ONLY REASON WE SHARE A BORDER IS BECAUSE OF YOUR FUCKING CITY
god... i'm so boned....
I quickly look for powerful allies.....
These two are the only I can afford.
I can only hope they arrive in time to stop the mighty Roman Army...
Just before the first shots of the war are fired, it's turn 81... and my tenure is over. I hope to god the next player is a master level Civ5 player, you need all the help you can get.
I've blocked out a couple research routes so that when the research treaty finishes around turn 95, it'll give us civil service.
I'm in once I can get a chance Will admit though that the Roman isn't going to make things easy, I see a Puppet city in our near future should we survive.
For RL reasons I can't play till the weekend/friday evening, so if someone can take the next turn it would speed things up quite a bit.
I set up a civ5 succession game when it first came out. We played a few turns, but aside from accidentally having it be too easy (it was literally less than a week old at the time) there were problems transferring save files between people with and without certain DLC
Has this been fixed?
(old thread, for shits and giggles. Don't bump it, its long long dead)
On June 01 2011 05:48 Nokarot wrote: I set up a civ5 succession game when it first came out. We played a few turns, but aside from accidentally having it be too easy (it was literally less than a week old at the time) there were problems transferring save files between people with and without certain DLC
Has this been fixed?
(old thread, for shits and giggles. Don't bump it, its long long dead)
Hi there! No, it has not been fixed. A good hearted soul simply started a game on his version of Civ 5 w/o any paid DLC and gave it to the rest of us. That's how it's going to have to be until something major changes.
On June 01 2011 05:48 Nokarot wrote: I set up a civ5 succession game when it first came out. We played a few turns, but aside from accidentally having it be too easy (it was literally less than a week old at the time) there were problems transferring save files between people with and without certain DLC
Has this been fixed?
(old thread, for shits and giggles. Don't bump it, its long long dead)
Hi there! No, it has not been fixed. A good hearted soul simply started a game on his version of Civ 5 w/o any paid DLC and gave it to the rest of us. That's how it's going to have to be until something major changes.
yeah... I don't have nay DLC on mine, either, so...
So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
On June 01 2011 14:42 TrinitySC wrote: So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
On June 01 2011 14:42 TrinitySC wrote: So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
Do it bro.
Hey, I asked earlier to get tossed on the list... is that list set for this round? I don't mind sitting out until next, just curious.
On June 01 2011 14:42 TrinitySC wrote: So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
Do it bro.
Hey, I asked earlier to get tossed on the list... is that list set for this round? I don't mind sitting out until next, just curious.
I got you. You'll go after Trinity. After Babyfactory will be Furycrab, who requested to take his turn later. Then back to me.
Oh man. Trinity you can do it! If it's just those 3 spears it's totally holdable. Also there's an archer near the capital. He might start buying units out of cumae as well-- but if you can capture cumae (SOMEHOW) then that would be pretty sweet, or maybe get it in the truce negotiations? I dunno how the AI works in this mode
I would also like to join in if there is more room. I just finished my major exams so i can play whenever, hopefully we can defend ourselves and stay in the game. If not we can always just start over. But at any rate i am willing to play after Babyfactory. thx <3
On June 01 2011 14:42 TrinitySC wrote: So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
On June 01 2011 14:42 TrinitySC wrote: So I have the feeling it's my turn to go now xD Unless someone informs me otherwise, I will carry on through the next 40 turns (81~120) later this afternoon, KST
Any luck with your 40 (39) turns?
If by tomorrow he doesn't post the turns, you can take yours, according to the rules Good luck, Trinity!!
Ok, I have played my turns >< sorry that took so long. The situation was pretty... discouraging. Didn't turn out terribly, though... I'll edit in the screenshots in a minute
and from there, I basically end up fighting off an onslaught of Romans. The first thing I did was selling a luxury resource to a nearby neighbor to buy us some walls at york. As it turns out, it was a pretty good idea. So I basically cleaned up a Roman army that consists of 3 or more of spearmen and archers, 1 ballista, and 1 horseman. In the process, I lose 2 warriors but enslave a settler, earning us a free worker. Thought we had it until...
Japan (our research partner) declares war, 4 turns before our research agreement completes. Fff..
and Romans trolling us with absurd peace offers...
Japan seems to be occupied, though, and nothing big really happens.
After dealing with a second, smaller wave of roman spearmen, I choose Organized Religion for our next policy, to speed up our Golden Age. Now that I look back on it, I'm not so sure if this was the best idea, since I'm not sure excess happiness gets carried over... oh well.
Funny thing, though, is that we're researching Civil Service and Hiawatha has musketmen. wh..at..?
The Mongolians declare war on us, and I end up losing an archer. R.I.P. archer..
The reason why I haven't been making peace:
Our first pikeman to help us not get steamrolled, and a new city in a not-that-great location. In its defense, it was the only safe place to build additional cities. I also took the opportunity to get us friendly with a cultural city state.
.. and our current situation on turn 122. I accidentally played an extra turn.. sorry about that ><
And that's about it. We're still in a lot of wars, and we're pretty much in it for a cultural victory if any. This is going to be hard ><
Ugh, fun... I can't load it. It keeps giving me a runtime error. I've looked around for information on how to fix the problem, but it seems that those solutions didn't work. I've done just about everything short of reinstalling the actual game, the patches and the DLCs.
I can load my own saves just fine, can't load this one.
Hm.... i can take a look at it when I get home in 8 hours, load it, and re-save it if you haven't figured it out by then. Are you up to date with your patches?
On June 03 2011 23:55 TunaBarrett wrote: This is a really cool idea, too bad im not good enough for this difficulty level ;P
PS. slightly off topic but how can i get that version of CiV 5 (1.0.1.275). Ive been using an older patch i think and i read up about a larger patch (.217) that introduced alot of balancechanges and changes to policies and whatnot, was totally not aware of it until now :E
I wouldn't worry the fun part about these is we can play another round at a different difficulty/mapsize/whatever. However I do find that the easiest way to learn is often to get thrown into the fire and learn how to deal with specific scenarios. (I've just started playing emperor and I know the feeling)
Steam should auto-update the game unless you disabled the auto-updating(and if you know where to disable that, you know where to re-enable it).
Baby: I'll try opening it myself first tonight just to check if the save file is the problem by chance, but if someone can do the same earlier might speed things along .
On June 04 2011 01:05 Blazinghand wrote: Hm.... i can take a look at it when I get home in 8 hours, load it, and re-save it if you haven't figured it out by then. Are you up to date with your patches?
Yeah, everything is up to date. I uninstalled and reinstalled DirectX and the Visual C++ x86, cleared out my other saves (they're just games I finished, was going to delete anyways), and turned off the Intro Movie, none of which worked.
It's weird because all the reports on this problem seem to of been common in patch 1.0.0.62 and before 2011. I haven't seen any posts from 2011.
Yeah I mean this is probably the hardest possible situation (Deity, Elizabeth spawn in tundra/forest on a continent map...) that we could get, and we're actually not doing too terribly. We could dial it down a level or two for the next game after this one to make it more accessible. The main thing about the hard difficulties is that once you get towards the industrial age, things start to level out quite a bit since the AI is bad at resource management, and its initial starting bonuses and bonus hammers make less of a difference.
On June 03 2011 23:55 TunaBarrett wrote: This is a really cool idea, too bad im not good enough for this difficulty level ;P
PS. slightly off topic but how can i get that version of CiV 5 (1.0.1.275). Ive been using an older patch i think and i read up about a larger patch (.217) that introduced alot of balancechanges and changes to policies and whatnot, was totally not aware of it until now :E
I wouldn't worry the fun part about these is we can play another round at a different difficulty/mapsize/whatever. However I do find that the easiest way to learn is often to get thrown into the fire and learn how to deal with specific scenarios. (I've just started playing emperor and I know the feeling)
Steam should auto-update the game unless you disabled the auto-updating(and if you know where to disable that, you know where to re-enable it).
Baby: I'll try opening it myself first tonight just to check if the save file is the problem by chance, but if someone can do the same earlier might speed things along .
You are probably right If there is another round i might be up for it, for now ill just watch =p
On June 04 2011 01:05 Blazinghand wrote: Hm.... i can take a look at it when I get home in 8 hours, load it, and re-save it if you haven't figured it out by then. Are you up to date with your patches?
Yeah, everything is up to date. I uninstalled and reinstalled DirectX and the Visual C++ x86, cleared out my other saves (they're just games I finished, was going to delete anyways), and turned off the Intro Movie, none of which worked.
It's weird because all the reports on this problem seem to of been common in patch 1.0.0.62 and before 2011. I haven't seen any posts from 2011.
I just tried the save file, and it worked fine on my computer, no errors =/
On June 04 2011 01:05 Blazinghand wrote: Hm.... i can take a look at it when I get home in 8 hours, load it, and re-save it if you haven't figured it out by then. Are you up to date with your patches?
Yeah, everything is up to date. I uninstalled and reinstalled DirectX and the Visual C++ x86, cleared out my other saves (they're just games I finished, was going to delete anyways), and turned off the Intro Movie, none of which worked.
It's weird because all the reports on this problem seem to of been common in patch 1.0.0.62 and before 2011. I haven't seen any posts from 2011.
I just tried the save file, and it worked fine on my computer, no errors =/
Meh, next in line can go then... I'll just sit these out ><.
On June 04 2011 01:18 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah I mean this is probably the hardest possible situation (Deity, Elizabeth spawn in tundra/forest on a continent map...) that we could get, and we're actually not doing too terribly. We could dial it down a level or two for the next game after this one to make it more accessible. The main thing about the hard difficulties is that once you get towards the industrial age, things start to level out quite a bit since the AI is bad at resource management, and its initial starting bonuses and bonus hammers make less of a difference.
Deity also needs a solid build order, and one needs to stick to that build order, like in Starcraft. Also, like in Starcraft, little mistakes in the early game can cost us the entire one. Settling that city so far away from us, and letting the AI get a city up that close to us was probably what got us in this situation.
Not to mention the derps fine people who all voted Deity. I'm starting to think it really was trolling.
But anyway, we are not doing too terribly. We should stick it out, this game is still winnable if we fast tech to rifles and go on a killing spree?
Meh, next in line can go then... I'll just sit these out ><.
So can i go or.....? Dont want to step on any toes xD
Yeah, go for it!
I'm disappointed it didn't want to work on my computer... I think I know why, but it'll take too much effort to fix. I can just watch you guys and read your write ups (which have been awesome so far).
I might have it fixed for the next game though. In my 40 moves, my goal was to just try and isolate Rome from Cumae after we research for Trebuchets and attempt to take it. I also was thinking of push the research towards Navigation to explore for an Island that might be a little more friendly for us to develop on given that it seems like all of the militaristic civilizations spawned on our continent.
Edit: Sorry Baby factory didnt mean to ignore you i just got it before i read your post :D if you could explain how to save it and put it up for everyone id much appreciate that and read it wile im playing, thanks in advance
On June 04 2011 04:15 Oblivion753 wrote: Never mind figured it out, starting 40 turns
Edit: Sorry Baby factory didnt mean to ignore you i just got it before i read your post :D if you could explain how to save it and put it up for everyone id much appreciate that and read it wile im playing, thanks in advance
Just save it as the same name of the current save (just change the # turns to the current #) through the menu. Then just take the save file out of the save folder and upload it to http://www.mediafire.com/ and post the link to it here.
Okay guys this is what happened, i started playing and 2 turns in the Iroquois declared war. the Iroquois had conquered Rome and its empire had over 25 cities in it, plus it had 4 cannons (we JUST researched catapult) 5 lancers (we dont even have horseman yet) and what appears to be about 6 or 7 pikeman and 4 swordsman while we have about 3 units, its over. They easily took York and i stopped because we have no chance. If you want to try go ahead but i suggest we start over at an easier difficulty
On June 04 2011 05:12 Oblivion753 wrote: Okay guys this is what happened, i started playing and 2 turns in the Iroquois declared war. the Iroquois had conquered Rome and its empire had over 25 cities in it, plus it had 4 cannons (we JUST researched catapult) 5 lancers (we dont even have horseman yet) and what appears to be about 6 or 7 pikeman and 4 swordsman while we have about 3 units, its over. They easily took York and i stopped because we have no chance. If you want to try go ahead but i suggest we start over at an easier difficulty
Just go as long as you can, report what you can, and maybe finish with pictures of the score sheet and or enemy Army .
We obviously can start a new one after that seeing the interest (but rough start ) to all this.
Maybe trade them the other city for a diplomatic solution?? I'm somewhat surprised they declared war, given that we're a relatively minor state and we don't share any borders with them.
If you can attain peace, just turtle up with a siege unit in the capital and see if a cultural victory is workable. We're relatively close to the next culture building tech, and you can do a culture victory with just one city. Get the piety policy that gives you bonus culture from happiness, and don't trade off any luxury resources, and we might be able to crank it out. Walls --> Castle on the capital will help as well.
Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
On June 04 2011 05:25 Oblivion753 wrote: Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
I guess it's to me now, again. I vote to restart, on Emperor. Danjoh, if I could ask you a favor to remake the game (everything the same except Level 6 Diff.) with your non-DLC infected Civ 5, could you please?
dude it's np, i think i should have just settled in my initial city location... I forgot you can't be very greedy in Deity. We had to spend time producing units for war which set us back... etc etc. It only takes a minor setback to trigger a cascade when you're playing on the hardest setting.
On June 04 2011 05:25 Oblivion753 wrote: Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
I guess it's to me now, again. I vote to restart, on Emperor. Danjoh, if I could ask you a favor to remake the game (everything the same except Level 6 Diff.) with your non-DLC infected Civ 5, could you please?
I can start one (DLC free) if you give me a bit (at home now). Huge/Continents/Standard/Emperor/Random leader sound about right?
On June 04 2011 05:25 Oblivion753 wrote: Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
I guess it's to me now, again. I vote to restart, on Emperor. Danjoh, if I could ask you a favor to remake the game (everything the same except Level 6 Diff.) with your non-DLC infected Civ 5, could you please?
Good thing I checked this thread before I went to bed, I'll have it up in a few minutes
edit: Continents, Huge map, Random leader, and emperor difficulty, standart speed.
On June 04 2011 05:25 Oblivion753 wrote: Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
I guess it's to me now, again. I vote to restart, on Emperor. Danjoh, if I could ask you a favor to remake the game (everything the same except Level 6 Diff.) with your non-DLC infected Civ 5, could you please?
Good thing I checked this thread before I went to bed, I'll have it up in a few minutes
edit: Continents, Huge map, Random leader, and emperor difficulty, standart speed.
Started on a river, and close to some spices, otherwise, nothing special =/
GL!
Damn! China would of been amazing for Diety considering the Chu-Ko-Nu being amazing for City Defense and the increased spawn rate of War Generals. And the Paper Maker for a Science win / make up for the scientific advantages the computer gets... ugh, it's amazing how much better China would of been then Britain, haha.
The starting location actually looks much, much better for founding a city since we have the river and two luxury goods. This will be an easy win, but I guess it depends again on us getting unlucky with militaristic personalities for civilizations spawning near us.
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Also, tyvm Danjoh for making these games! I probably won't even be able to play this one, but I'm still very appreciative since its actually a lot of fun to read the progression. I'm greatly enjoying the Civ 4 and Dwarf Fortress succession games as well.
On June 04 2011 05:25 Oblivion753 wrote: Seeing as this is a succession game and i failed i will pass. I tried my best and seeing how big the army of the Iroquois army is i know i cannot hold it off. If anyone is REALLY good they can try but i think its futile seeing as they have over 25 cities and we have 3.....
If you do try in the next few turns 1.Rome will be conquered and offer peace 2. Greece will want you to form a friendship(could help us fight Iroquois) 3.Japan will start to expand like crazy around you so be weary of their incoming cities 4.Iroquois will declare war and you are in for the battle of your life
I guess it's to me now, again. I vote to restart, on Emperor. Danjoh, if I could ask you a favor to remake the game (everything the same except Level 6 Diff.) with your non-DLC infected Civ 5, could you please?
Good thing I checked this thread before I went to bed, I'll have it up in a few minutes
edit: Continents, Huge map, Random leader, and emperor difficulty, standart speed.
On June 04 2011 07:35 MangoTango wrote: lol, awesome. Discovered this thread. Sorry you guys got so epicly pwned by tech (LOL cannons v catapults). :S
You guys are still way better than me though. I can barely beat Prince D:
You can still play! It's a great way to learn and just have fun. It's really not about winning so much as it is about getting to play with people and see the merging of play styles.
And yeah, the problem with Deity setting (and any version above King) is that the early advantage of the computer can sometimes be obnoxious. I had a game on Emperor and only 100 turns in to the game there were two civilizations that had over 9000 gold (no joke), no wars were declared, they had no gold / silver / gems as luxury goods, and they only had a few cities while I had six gold mines and plenty of other luxury goods but only had a few hundred gold with less than 100 gold per turn. I had no idea how they managed it, but I quit as soon as I saw they had that much gold... it's not a fun game if you or the computer can just mass purchase units and defensive structures if you attack them.
On June 04 2011 08:05 Blazinghand wrote: I'll totally stream again
Maybe i'll bump it up from classical to jazz music or something, too.
I tend to watch streams on mute, I'm not big on music when I play (or do anything for that matter)... I always have sounds off unless I'm listening to commentary or I forget to turn it off.
So this time, we have a pretty average start. Settled on the Sugar. Went NE, and only found sheep. Went Scout ---> Monument, Pottery ---> Writing
Meh ruins to follow:
Got Mining from the Tech hut. Got 2 of the Weapon upgrades on both the warrior and scout, so had a Spear AND an Archer early game But lost the Spear to Barbs, sorry guys Found Mt. Fuji though!
Met this guy.
Wasn't Friendly yet to get 50g for Open Borders > Borrowed 90 gold for 4 gpt from him, got 25 from a Barb camp, + the 100 from the ruin + our regular gpt = Paper Maker
Met these people. Neutral indeed. After Calendar finished, sold Sugar for 214g and 1gpt. Invested 250 into these folks
Land isn't that great, 20 turn NC >.< Just got a worker from Liberty tree ---> Citizenship. Using him to build a hillside farm, so worth it imo. No culture ruin meant no Meritocracy yet
State of the World:
For next round: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get Meritocracy and a GE. Step 1: After selecting the policy, SAVE. Step 2: Choose Engineer Step 3: AFTER Philosophy finishes, rush Great Library. Step 4: Get Theology, Medieval Age Step 5: If beaten to GL, reload to get Scientist from Meritocracy. Repeat Step 4 Step 6: ??? Step 7: Profit!
Turn 81. if you can do some wheeling and dealing, maybe buy a temple (or a paper maker) in the new city. Otherwise, keep on improving tiles and GET TO EDUCATION TECH. If you can do this, everything else should fall into place rather nicely.
On June 04 2011 07:35 MangoTango wrote: lol, awesome. Discovered this thread. Sorry you guys got so epicly pwned by tech (LOL cannons v catapults). :S
You guys are still way better than me though. I can barely beat Prince D:
You can still play! It's a great way to learn and just have fun. It's really not about winning so much as it is about getting to play with people and see the merging of play styles.
And yeah, the problem with Deity setting (and any version above King) is that the early advantage of the computer can sometimes be obnoxious. I had a game on Emperor and only 100 turns in to the game there were two civilizations that had over 9000 gold (no joke), no wars were declared, they had no gold / silver / gems as luxury goods, and they only had a few cities while I had six gold mines and plenty of other luxury goods but only had a few hundred gold with less than 100 gold per turn. I had no idea how they managed it, but I quit as soon as I saw they had that much gold... it's not a fun game if you or the computer can just mass purchase units and defensive structures if you attack them.
Well I don't want to play if I'm just going to wreck everyone's fun because I don't know the first damn thing about how to play the game. It'd be like a bunch of Diamond players dragging a Bronze idiot in a 4v4. I'm having plenty of fun watching the game, so don't worry about me. Thanks for the invite
Turn 81. if you can do some wheeling and dealing, maybe buy a temple (or a paper maker) in the new city. Otherwise, keep on improving tiles and GET TO EDUCATION TECH. If you can do this, everything else should fall into place rather nicely.
Saw the stream, good job, better than I could've done I think. Loved the quote, "Right now, I'm doing the equivalent of droning hard." in reference of not settling near Persia. XD
Quick summary is, I finished Civil Service, got Metal Casting (for workshops), and started up on Education. In the meantime, since we had no military, Darius declared war on us. First wave consisted of 4 or so warriors and an archer. While that was going on, I grabbed us a 4th city and held off the attack with city bombardment and 1 pikeman. Immediately after I put up the second city, Persia sent us a wave of immortals, horsemen, an archer, and a pikeman, but same story here; I managed to put us in a favorable position against Persia's army.. mostly since the AI is pretty dumb. Persia's army < city bombardment + 1 pikeman + money management.
The capital is 2 or 3 turns away from producing another pikeman, so we should have no problem holding this. We should not suffer any loss greater than losing 1 pikeman.
As a side note, I derped and got a worker stolen to barbs around turn 113 or so. You will want to check along for the east coast for the barb encampment imprisoning it, and retrieve it with pikemen once the situation settles down.
The silk by Shanghai is also top priority. We need happiness ><
I took the liberty of playing a few moves into turn 121, just to keep things safe. I hope you don't mind xD;;
I recommend getting workshops in every city first, followed by libraries, followed by colosseums only as much as we need to, then granary -> aqueduct (given tech) -> stable/forge (if available) -> university. If you want to aim for a science victory or general tech advantage, getting a university first in cities with higher populations is acceptable, but workshops absolutely must come first. The longterm production advantage outweighs 20 or so turns of extra 5 beakers. Just my 2 cents :D
Damn this was tough. My 40 turns was pretty much all on the defensive, Persia had a LOT of units and they kept on streaming in, somehow I managed not to lose a city while still getting a university and even a wonder built in the capital. The wonder got rushed with a great engineer we got. I built some archers and pikemen to hold the defense and lost some during his attack, but I have now stabilized somewhat and upgraded our lone lvl 2 surviving archer to a Cho-ku-nu. In a few turns we will have 3 Cho-ku-nus more so defending will be a breeze. I recommend getting a few longswordsmen or musketmen and going on the offensive. Sadly I lost a great general because the persians suicided units into the pikeman defending it.
We also have a great scientist I havn't used yet, was thinking of rushing gunpowder with it.
Social policy went into monarchy (we need happyfaces badly) and into landed elite so we can get a bit more production citzens. Nearly all the cities are on production focus btw, change that when our happiness gets a little more stabilized.
Okay i just finished my 40 turns and although we took a bit of a hit i think overall as long as the next person can hold off the Persian onslaught one more time i feel as if we can defeat them. I am sorry there are no pictures but my computer is being really dumb so i will jsut thorughly explain what happened.
First i had to deal with a few waves of barbarian and Persian pressure which consisted of archers, horsemen, and pikeman. (no problem xD) I expanded once more to the nothern part of the map which looks to be a pretty good and safe spot considering there is no one even near there.
Then persia attacked again..Unfortunately Persia had musket men out before us which proved to be too much to handle so in the end I offered peace for 5g per turn and 150 additional gold (better than losing a city… I would HIGHLY suggest upping our defenses
There was a small amount of time of peace which was good and i was able to get out a few more musketmen before they re attacked. I also derp'd a bit by losing a worker by the Persian border so another worker built is a priority.
There should be enough troops there to hold off Darius' initial attack and i hope you continue to get more knights and musketmen out as well as work on our happiness which is a sad sight at -2. Like i said if the next person can jsut hold off darius we should be able to eventually start attacking ourselves.
Only ever had time to play this game for a couple hours even though I bought it in December TT. Never played a Civ game until this one and really enjoyed the chilled out atmosphere compared to hour I thought it would be. Once I get going I'd love to join in on this, very interesting way to play! :D
Wow you guys are good, i tried to mirror this game from the start but got herpa derped by persias aggressiveness ;E Might learn a thing or two from you guys!
Have we found any other CS besides Brussels? It might be good to get extra happiness by allying a CS with a luxury for more expansions, or conquering a Persian city :D
Hey guys, I'm a big fan of the Civ series, and it's cool to see thought out "BO's" for Civ 5! I usually go a mass expand build myself =) I'd love to throw my input into the game if that's all right!
On June 06 2011 07:52 rambomcfantastic wrote: Hey guys, I'm a big fan of the Civ series, and it's cool to see thought out "BO's" for Civ 5! I usually go a mass expand build myself =) I'd love to throw my input into the game if that's all right!
Hehe thanks. You know, my name comes from a Civ reference! It used to be "SpearRitual" (Spiritual) after my favorite Civ 4 Leader Trait! After my Battle.net name change, now its just "SpearWrit" (Spirit) and thus my TL.net forum account was named after such.
But anyway onto it! Well! You folks certainly did not leave me a cakewalk! It was tough, but now we are in a very strong position. At first the Persian hordes came through our great land, but the only thing they found was death. How dare they think they can be so uppity against the superior Middle Kingdom! We will subdue the Persian barbarians, and make them bow to us.
You see! Their intellect is not so great as ours. They place a cannon on the front lines, to be easily destroyed by our Musketmen! How careless!
They come to us with a laughable surrender. The fight will continue, so long as we have the Mandate of Heaven! The Gods are on our side!
But seriously, their Knights are the most frustrating, annoying !@#$ing unit this whole war. They kept flanking our Musketmen, killing units that I retreated for healing beyond the fog of war without Line of Sight! WTF. They even suicided to kill low riflemen in the middle of our lines! No purpose to their tactics! Surely our genius General Zhuge Liang will over come them.
Eventually we lay siege to their city and claim it, with all the spoils! With it, we start a 4 turn golden age for adopting Rationalism! Our heavenly science will surpass all the world's!
Our golden age comes to an end, and we are heavy in debt. The ministers come to me on bending knee, weeping at how we will go bankrupt and our great society will lay in ruins! But clever as I am, I promote one of my officers to the rank of General, so that HE may show the Chinese nation a greater Golden Age!
What's this?? Technology we have not!? How did these barbarian 鬼gui gain this power? Their thunderous Cannons would be no match for our great Chu-Ko-Nu devices, invented by Zhuge Liang himself right? No. Our forces falter, and Ecbatana returns to those Persian 狗 gou. Curse them. But our genius Scientist newly promoted from the great Civil Service Examinations of our great nation give us yet another advantage over the bearded barbarians.
The coward Darius, having his forces wiped off the map, offers yet another surrender asking for much less. How dare his insolence! Should he not be begging for his life? I will not give him one inch of the divine Middle Kingdom, much less 2 cities!
Why would I capitulate to those 胡人 hu ren when we clearly are at an advantage? The superiority of Chinese training carries over from our Chu-No-Ku men as we hand them Rifled Muskets instead! Because who has March, City Raider, two attacks per turn Riflemen? WE DO!
Ecbatana returns to our hands, in a convincing victory. The end of the Persian bearded dog-men is nigh!
Our empire continues to prosper, as I have improved the land, built stables, more universities, and more banks while only stopping to replenish our losses. Our army is in the strongest position ever! We have responded to the Persians loud jeers with even louder shouts. The Chinese nation has stood up! 万岁！ wan sui
lol Wu Zetian would be proud Spear xD Seriously though nice job, i knew after we held his main pushes we would eventually break through, and now we have the chance to take some nice cities. My only question is, where is everyone else? I can only remember one measly city-sate and i think 2 other civs.. Where is everyone!! This is a huge map on continents which means that about 3 or 4 civs per continent with SC's
On June 06 2011 13:57 Oblivion753 wrote: lol Wu Zetian would be proud Spear xD Seriously though nice job, i knew after we held his main pushes we would eventually break through, and now we have the chance to take some nice cities. My only question is, where is everyone else? I can only remember one measly city-sate and i think 2 other civs.. Where is everyone!! This is a huge map on continents which means that about 3 or 4 civs per continent with SC's
Well, Darius has bought up 3 other CSs. I know this only because they are all at war with us. As for everyone else, we must be on the isolated Continent so everyone is on the other more populated one. I think they're pretty far ahead of us too; both the Forbidden Palace and the Lourve have been built, and one of the unmet nations lost their capital.
On June 06 2011 13:26 rambomcfantastic wrote: Awesome post Spear, I love the nationalist spirit!
Is it my turn to take it a bit? I'll play it out and let you know how it goes. If I'm stepping on someone's toes, sorry! You play it out too =D
Thanks We have an order on the first page.
Oh boy, didn't see that! Spear at the beginning and me at the end! On the off chance, Oblivian do you mind if I take a turn to start the whole cycle over? I'm not insisting, just over eager =D No worriies, I don't mean to come in and be BM. Up to you
On June 06 2011 13:26 rambomcfantastic wrote: Awesome post Spear, I love the nationalist spirit!
Is it my turn to take it a bit? I'll play it out and let you know how it goes. If I'm stepping on someone's toes, sorry! You play it out too =D
Thanks We have an order on the first page.
Oh boy, didn't see that! Spear at the beginning and me at the end! On the off chance, Oblivian do you mind if I take a turn to start the whole cycle over? I'm not insisting, just over eager =D No worriies, I don't mean to come in and be BM. Up to you
The guy you should ask is Casta, since he's next. Given the speed that turns tend to go at, though, yours will come up in a day or so anyways.
First off, this post is dedicated to chairman Plexa whose eternal mercy knows no bounds.
It is time for the Persians to know our cunning and taste our bullets for our mandate of heaven is everlasting.
So this is how we basicly start off Enemies everywhere that need to be cleansed He is feeling it now that Darius I know it Now Darius is so weakened that this happens Sounds like a bargain to me, 10 turns of peace while we sit and mass up our forces, you got it coward. However all those extra cities gave us like 20 unhappiness, so time to burn some Persian fools and trade with the Ghandi. Might as well exploit a little easy money also Nono Darius our horses are of excellent breed and may our peace be eternal! Finally green happiness, but tensions are high on the border, will peace last? No hahaha, we will feed our children with the blood of Persians! This will change the war as soon as we get enough funds! A little looting and murdering might help there. For now nothing can withstand our cannons! Right Darius is getting scared, but he will never know peace, I spat in his face with this deal Sadly he refused... no matter we will just exterminate them! Artillery is so good, nothing can stop us now!
I love those readings guys keep it up I play Civ5 a littlebit by myself so its very interesting and much fun to follow your games. Maybe one day I feel good enough to join, but I have o practice until the time comes. I read every post since the beginning and I´ll continue, because you´re amazing gl hf and stomp your enemies!
I forgot to mention that while I played quite a few capitals were taken from unknown players and wonders were built, Statue of Liberty is the most advanced built in a far away land. I think they are in mid industrial era or something while we just got there.
Also Ghandi looks to be quite powerful, can't wait to figure out how the rest of the world looks.
On June 06 2011 12:56 SpearWrit wrote: Hehe thanks. You know, my name comes from a Civ reference! It used to be "SpearRitual" (Spiritual) after my favorite Civ 4 Leader Trait! After my Battle.net name change, now its just "SpearWrit" (Spirit) and thus my TL.net forum account was named after such.
But anyway onto it! Well! You folks certainly did not leave me a cakewalk! It was tough, but now we are in a very strong position. At first the Persian hordes came through our great land, but the only thing they found was death. How dare they think they can be so uppity against the superior Middle Kingdom! We will subdue the Persian barbarians, and make them bow to us.
You see! Their intellect is not so great as ours. They place a cannon on the front lines, to be easily destroyed by our Musketmen! How careless!
They come to us with a laughable surrender. The fight will continue, so long as we have the Mandate of Heaven! The Gods are on our side!
But seriously, their Knights are the most frustrating, annoying !@#$ing unit this whole war. They kept flanking our Musketmen, killing units that I retreated for healing beyond the fog of war without Line of Sight! WTF. They even suicided to kill low riflemen in the middle of our lines! No purpose to their tactics! Surely our genius General Zhuge Liang will over come them.
Eventually we lay siege to their city and claim it, with all the spoils! With it, we start a 4 turn golden age for adopting Rationalism! Our heavenly science will surpass all the world's!
Our golden age comes to an end, and we are heavy in debt. The ministers come to me on bending knee, weeping at how we will go bankrupt and our great society will lay in ruins! But clever as I am, I promote one of my officers to the rank of General, so that HE may show the Chinese nation a greater Golden Age!
What's this?? Technology we have not!? How did these barbarian 鬼gui gain this power? Their thunderous Cannons would be no match for our great Chu-Ko-Nu devices, invented by Zhuge Liang himself right? No. Our forces falter, and Ecbatana returns to those Persian 狗 gou. Curse them. But our genius Scientist newly promoted from the great Civil Service Examinations of our great nation give us yet another advantage over the bearded barbarians.
The coward Darius, having his forces wiped off the map, offers yet another surrender asking for much less. How dare his insolence! Should he not be begging for his life? I will not give him one inch of the divine Middle Kingdom, much less 2 cities!
Why would I capitulate to those 胡人 hu ren when we clearly are at an advantage? The superiority of Chinese training carries over from our Chu-No-Ku men as we hand them Rifled Muskets instead! Because who has March, City Raider, two attacks per turn Riflemen? WE DO!
Ecbatana returns to our hands, in a convincing victory. The end of the Persian bearded dog-men is nigh!
Our empire continues to prosper, as I have improved the land, built stables, more universities, and more banks while only stopping to replenish our losses. Our army is in the strongest position ever! We have responded to the Persians loud jeers with even louder shouts. The Chinese nation has stood up! 万岁！ wan sui
Live streaming now my turns at livestream.com/blazinghand
EDIT: after a brief interruption, we're back!
EDIT 2: After several hours of play, I'm halfway through my turn, and am taking a lunch break. >.> Darius is down to 1 city, and i'm planning my move against Ghandi. Due to some internet issues, the VoD so far is split into three bits.
EDIT 3: Ugh, alright, fixed my streaming software, but it's pretty late. I'm gonna crash and finish up my turn tomorrow morning.
EDIT 4: Streaming again.
EDIT 5: Wiped Darius, got ahead in tech again, built public schools in everywhere, consolidated tile improvements, found coal and oil, made country happy. My turn's done, sorry it took so long
SO HERE'S WHERE WE STAND: Ghandi is incredibly strong, he's ahead of everyone in tech, cities, and army size, and he's trying to win via conquering. We can't stand up to him, and due to his strength, if we declared war, we'd never see peace until he was dead. Washington has a vaaast majority of the city-states in his pocket. If the UN voted today, he'd win. I've set us up for a social or science victory. We've consolidated power on this continent with an iron fist. DO NOT ANNEX ANY PUPPETS unless it's gamebreaking to do so or not, because it'll wreck our culture and happiness. Try to avoid direct conflicts with other nations, since we have no navy. I've been microing the laborers in all our active cities pretty hard to optimize them. This is part of why my turn took 4 hours over 2 days for 40 turns. You're going to want to set everyone to "auto" and maybe micro the specialists unless you're also crazy. If you micro right you can keep beaker production above 600!
On June 09 2011 22:15 TrinitySC wrote: >_> aggrogandhi strikes again.
who's going next, btw? me or Furycrab?
If you don't mind I'll give it a go around 5 EST. Let's just say there's a lot of motivation for me to finish my turn in one day. Since I'm out of town for the weekend.
Edit: Btw for future games, people should be more proactive about scouting. People on the other continents tend to make great trading partners and all your techs become cheaper for each person you've met. + natural wonders etc...
On June 09 2011 23:00 Fruscainte wrote: Oh God, how did you let this happen.
Ghandi is like, the worst person to go at late game ;-;
ALWAYS take that fucker out right away. That's my philosophy. He always backstabs you in the end and just destroys everything.
Lol, I kinda hate Alexander more than I hate Ghandi.
Nuking Ghandi is annoying, but "I now own half the world because I was a warmongering jerk early game Alexander" makes me want to kick a kitten every time I play a continents game and explore the other continent to see he's wrecked almost everyone there already.
On June 09 2011 23:00 Fruscainte wrote: Oh God, how did you let this happen.
Ghandi is like, the worst person to go at late game ;-;
ALWAYS take that fucker out right away. That's my philosophy. He always backstabs you in the end and just destroys everything.
Lol, I kinda hate Alexander more than I hate Ghandi.
Nuking Ghandi is annoying, but "I now own half the world because I was a warmongering jerk early game Alexander" makes me want to kick a kitten every time I play a continents game and explore the other continent to see he's wrecked almost everyone there already.
The only person worse than Ghandi is England. Then Alexander.
On June 09 2011 23:00 Fruscainte wrote: Oh God, how did you let this happen.
Ghandi is like, the worst person to go at late game ;-;
ALWAYS take that fucker out right away. That's my philosophy. He always backstabs you in the end and just destroys everything.
Lol, I kinda hate Alexander more than I hate Ghandi.
Nuking Ghandi is annoying, but "I now own half the world because I was a warmongering jerk early game Alexander" makes me want to kick a kitten every time I play a continents game and explore the other continent to see he's wrecked almost everyone there already.
The only person worse than Ghandi is England. Then Alexander.
No way man. You're forgetting Hiawatha. That fucker always has a large empire in the games he's in with me. Always stabs you in the back at the end.
On June 09 2011 23:00 Fruscainte wrote: Oh God, how did you let this happen.
Ghandi is like, the worst person to go at late game ;-;
ALWAYS take that fucker out right away. That's my philosophy. He always backstabs you in the end and just destroys everything.
Lol, I kinda hate Alexander more than I hate Ghandi.
Nuking Ghandi is annoying, but "I now own half the world because I was a warmongering jerk early game Alexander" makes me want to kick a kitten every time I play a continents game and explore the other continent to see he's wrecked almost everyone there already.
The only person worse than Ghandi is England. Then Alexander.
No way man. You're forgetting Hiawatha. That fucker always has a large empire in the games he's in with me. Always stabs you in the back at the end.
I personally hate Ramkhamhaeng the most, however Ghandi earns a solid number 2 and Ghengis number 3.
But usually anyone starting close to you needs to die at some point unless you want to get stabbed :/
After accessing the possible victories. Domination seemed unlikely because I was completely blind.
Had a few good RAs coming up in the next dozen turns so I focused my attention on getting the techs I needed and blocking what I didn't want. Cultural victory seem unlikely since Ghandi pretty much runs the Wonder party... However it's not impossible and you'll see later that I did at least one thing to help should you choose to try.
THIS became the most urgent problem, a quick look to the victory page and Ghandi was in the modern age and with 16 votes with only 12 needed. He was even poking fun at some of my City states like you see in that picture. Most of my gold I made during this session was almost entirely spent into sniping CS allies from Ghandi.
With two civs still to find, and over 6 natural wonders, a destroyer seemed like a sound investment since my military plan later on was pretty much not to get involved. I ended up buying a destroyer, but this happened... Clearly someone wasn't having a good time.
This a few turns later happened, sadly killing one of the RAs gifted to me by my predecessor.
This is also worth noting, and maybe should be considered a deterrent to go to war unless you see no other option.
Here I met Napy, and used it to get more gold.
Social policy wise I got 2 during my tenure. I focused on getting the 2 free techs along with 2 Great Scientists, more on this in my resume.
I finally met Japan, however I soon learned this was going to be a short friendship. Askia also took an exit in this time. Even if I still had no clue where everyone was.
Finally with combination of RA's and 2 Great Scientists I managed to push to Sat tech which unlocked Apollo program and gave me a good look at the map + the remaining Natural wonders.
Lastly, one or two turns from the end of my tenure I give this to my future, it might not be incredibly useful, but it might give you one or two extra social policies.
Things I want to pass on...
1) Going for a tech victory at this point seems the most sound, we could draw out a long war, but we run the risk of having whoever is left beat us to tech.
2) You have 2 techs left to get all the parts, however you will be able to dedicate 4-5 "Decent" cities to get the first few parts fairly quickly once Apollo finishes in our capital.
3) There are two left over RAs I believe, you can use that as you wish, or try to time it to get the last few Apollo techs faster with blocking.
4) Everyone is relatively friendly (Washington I think is a bit fake friendly so keep your eye on him) but everyone cept maybe France has Manhattan project, be careful.
5) I tp spammed all our puppets, and I recommend you use the workers we have to link up our production cities with railroads to speed up the Space Victory.
6) I managed to bring Ghandi down from 16 UN votes to 11 2/3rds? Unless you plan on going to war with him I would suggest stealing at least 2 more from him. It's also a major contributor to our luxury resources. Don't want to lose to diplomacy as we get closer to winning!
P.S.: If there's a problem with any of the files, let me know <.< little busy, but would hate for anything to be broken considering I'm out of town tomorrow evening.
Assuming we don't get streamtrained by ghandi soon, we should be starting up a new one shortly-- furycrab has put us into a good position for the science victory, and assuming we can keep on trolling ghandi out of his CS allies so he doesn't UN us to death, it shouldn't be any real trouble.
On June 11 2011 03:17 Blazinghand wrote: Assuming we don't get streamtrained by ghandi soon, we should be starting up a new one shortly-- furycrab has put us into a good position for the science victory, and assuming we can keep on trolling ghandi out of his CS allies so he doesn't UN us to death, it shouldn't be any real trouble.
I felt bad dismantling a little bit of the specialist structure, and at first it was kicking me a bit with some growth problems, but once I trolled a few of Ghandis CS allies it gave me a lot of luxury resources and I was pleasantly surprised at how productive that bottom right city turned out.
I got the feeling that Washington was getting a bit more antsy from the "fake" friendly deals. You could try to bribe the other civs into warring each other. Washington and Napy should be easy, not sure if it's possible to bribe someone to DOW ghandi.
On June 11 2011 03:17 Blazinghand wrote: Assuming we don't get streamtrained by ghandi soon, we should be starting up a new one shortly-- furycrab has put us into a good position for the science victory, and assuming we can keep on trolling ghandi out of his CS allies so he doesn't UN us to death, it shouldn't be any real trouble.
I felt bad dismantling a little bit of the specialist structure, and at first it was kicking me a bit with some growth problems, but once I trolled a few of Ghandis CS allies it gave me a lot of luxury resources and I was pleasantly surprised at how productive that bottom right city turned out.
I got the feeling that Washington was getting a bit more antsy from the "fake" friendly deals. You could try to bribe the other civs into warring each other. Washington and Napy should be easy, not sure if it's possible to bribe someone to DOW ghandi.
Ah, the reason I used all those specialists is that each specialist gives +2 science, regardless of what they're a specialist at. I was trying to use policy specialists coupled with science specialists to get a couple of those freedom policies that are so useful at this stage in the game, and to rush the crap out of Apollo tech, since I figured it was our last best hope of winning. I always keep a policy victory available as a OPTION, just because if it comes down to it, you can force through a policy victory with specialists and cultural CS allies-- but without key wonders such as stonehenge and the like to boost overall civ policy output, it's not easy, and it's slower than a science victory in our situation, especially with 5 active cities.
Ya, with 5 active cities and still the better part of 3 policy trees to go felt like it would have taken longer than space so the next two policies went into getting the free techs. That + 2 GS + the RAs launched me pretty quick into the apollo. (Well that and I blocked off railroad for most of my 40 turns to not get anything military wise)
Also when I decided to build Cristo Redentor I was pretty much pressing end turn every time expecting a prompt saying that Washington or Ghandi had sniped me. I was surprised when it finished... Sucker even made me waste some science points . (And I would have used that gold out of spite to snipe another CS)
Knowing what I know now, cultural victory with Cristo Redentor + That freedom policy would have been a good choice too. (Building broadcast towers everywhere).
so what do you guys think about this game compared to civ 4? better, worse? easier? im thinking about getting it next time it pops up on sale somewhere
On June 12 2011 06:54 Kezzer wrote: so what do you guys think about this game compared to civ 4? better, worse? easier? im thinking about getting it next time it pops up on sale somewhere
We try to stay away from comparisons in this thread because of the bad juju it inspires when its supposed to be about playing the game, and also because there's a Civ 4 Succession thread on the same forum. But I will say it really depends on your taste. Civ 5 is newer and all the kinks haven't been quite worked out yet, but still fun and has a different combat system (one unit per tile). Civ 4 pretty much has more of everything and as such, you have to manage more of everything. It also lets you stack military units on the same tile.
So really it's up to you. There are those of us who like Civ 5 over Civ 4 and that's okay. There are people who don't like Civ 5 and prefer Civ 4 for its particular features, and that's okay. I'm sure there are some who even like both.
On June 17 2011 08:00 rambomcfantastic wrote: lol rotation over and I never even got a turn ='( can't wait to see what you come up with spear
Don't think was intentional, it just really hurts the momentum when one or two players in a row are no shows, so but if he's not already playing you might get a chance. All honesty this game not much left unless someone wants to go do something crazy and DOW one of the other two continents.
On June 17 2011 08:00 rambomcfantastic wrote: lol rotation over and I never even got a turn ='( can't wait to see what you come up with spear
Don't think was intentional, it just really hurts the momentum when one or two players in a row are no shows, so but if he's not already playing you might get a chance. All honesty this game not much left unless someone wants to go do something crazy and DOW one of the other two continents.
Yeah think about it this way, you'll be earlier in the rotation for the next game, and there's gonna be more choices to make etc since it'll be a younger civ.
Well, the 30 years plan of the glorious Chinese Empire was to put a man on the moon (of a star other than our current favorite). However, when the brilliant and fearless leader of the Great and Glorious Empire of the carved Jade Dragon with the Talons of Power detects an opportunity for Great Justice he takes it. Its late, I probably shouldn't have stayed up to finish this game, but damnit, it was my time! So full report to follow, but long story short UN votes are for sale. I knew I was saving that cash for something!
Also, I watch "Spanishiwa pwns it up" brought to me by psystarcraft while I fearlessly lead the Great and Glorious.. yeah. GG WP!
Dude you won from a UN election when ANOTHER nation build the UN?! that's... that's super awesome. I honestly thought that another nation UNing us was like, the biggest threat by a long shot, but winning via UN is hilarious and surprising. I knew all that TP spam was good for something!
On June 17 2011 18:07 Blazinghand wrote: Dude you won from a UN election when ANOTHER nation build the UN?! that's... that's super awesome. I honestly thought that another nation UNing us was like, the biggest threat by a long shot, but winning via UN is hilarious and surprising. I knew all that TP spam was good for something!
lol wut? I really didn't see this one coming haha.
Trolling Gandhi FTW! Can't wait for next game =D Quick suggestion for the next one though: Turn Off Attack Animations. If we end up having to fight any sort of serious end game war, attack animations will drive you insane and want to bust out the idra offensive gg.
On June 18 2011 04:28 rambomcfantastic wrote: Trolling Gandhi FTW! Can't wait for next game =D Quick suggestion for the next one though: Turn Off Attack Animations. If we end up having to fight any sort of serious end game war, attack animations will drive you insane and want to bust out the idra offensive gg.
I thought this was a local setting, in your options menu, rather than a save-file setting? Also if you're in a big rush you can go into 2-d mode (strategic view? I think?) and do everything there really quickly.
Always play big wars in strategic view anyway, no animations there
You can also cancel an animation by switching back and forth from strategic wiev fast. Handy if you don't want to see some useless barbarian trireme bombard some AI's fortifying unit for 150 turns in a row.
WELL OK I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME GUYS. =D Haha, good to know! Wow, having a community to support makes playing every game so much more fun! =DDD Can't wait for next game.
Hey guys, I apologize for not responding, but I have a tendency to be a little more aggressive then I should be in discussion and got myself temp banned for a week. I still haven't figured out why it won't let me play... I'm going to be uninstalling and reinstalling then repatching here soon, but just skip me for the time being, but I've been following the write ups.
First of all, I'd like to say congratulations to us all for winning our first game together! Let's keep it up!
And so we begin our next game as the world's greatest conquerors...THE MONGOLS.
And it is from these steppes that the world will hear our horses sweep down upon them, and make them fear:
Settled on the Silver, went Pottery, Mining, Writing. Found this ruin next to a Barb camp (which we killed)
I think we have a site for our next city, which will undoubtedly be a breadbasket. Beyond the FP Wheat is plains wheat, wine, and more stuff. HIGHLY recommend 2nd city there.
Met this lovely redhead. She will be the first of our conquered harem.
Met a cultural CS:
Our great scout discovered the world's first natural wonder!
And to our west...
And from a location unknown for now...this fucker again.
After writing, we sold open borders to all friendly civs (2) and sold silver to Gandhi for 30g and 8gpt. A bargain.
Bought our library and immediately started on our NC, right as the mine finishes. So it's a 12 turn build For tech, since we don't have a calendar luxury immediately ready to hook up, I went AH--->Trapping--->Philosophy.
With our extra cash, I bought our newly discovered horse tile, and sent a worker (via Citizenship) to pasture it.
I have to apologize for playing one more turn; I just HAD to see what this CS is...
OH! It's Bucharest
So to sum up, a solid opening. NC is 3 turns from finishing. Found 3 civs, and 3 cultural CSs. Because of her close proximity, I signed a Declaration of Friendship with our gal Lizzy. It looks like the Mongol horde is ready to rule the world once more.
I beat immortal via dipolmatic victory.... its easy, makes sure the enemies are killing eachother, meanwhile dump money in city states... then research that thing for diplomatic victory asap... win!
Diety is just impossible without finding an AI fault.
On June 20 2011 10:38 Pangolin wrote: There's gonna be a big patch for this game soon. This game will probably finish before it's out but I thought people might be interested to know.
HUGE change to RAs, can't say I hate the idea though, but ya, this pretty much kills RA block strategies. (I'm happy about this change, even if I was getting a good handle on it)
NC start got kicked in the groin. (Tech required moved to philosophy and reduced the base science by 2, getting it will still be good, but rushing it on one city will probably not be worth it)
But ya, changes are huge <.<.
Can't say I see anything terrible, but ya, going to be reworking strats a ton! <.<
They kinda killed the obvious good strats and buffed broken stuff. Ottomans and Germans aren't going to be the laughing stocks anymore that's for sure. Heck, Ottomans might now be one of my favorites for any maps with decent amount of water.
On June 20 2011 10:38 Pangolin wrote: There's gonna be a big patch for this game soon. This game will probably finish before it's out but I thought people might be interested to know.
HUGE change to RAs, can't say I hate the idea though, but ya, this pretty much kills RA block strategies. (I'm happy about this change, even if I was getting a good handle on it)
NC start got kicked in the groin. (Tech required moved to philosophy and reduced the base science by 2, getting it will still be good, but rushing it on one city will probably not be worth it)
But ya, changes are huge <.<.
Can't say I see anything terrible, but ya, going to be reworking strats a ton! <.<
They kinda killed the obvious good strats and buffed broken stuff. Ottomans and Germans aren't going to be the laughing stocks anymore that's for sure. Heck, Ottomans might now be one of my favorites for any maps with decent amount of water.
I'm a huge fan of playing with Barbarians on Raging... regardless of map size, land type, and leader I am assigned. IT looks like I can't play a game passed Emperor with Raging Barbarians if Montezuma with Honor policy is playing against me ><
I never rushed Great Library -> NC, but since reading this thread I've been experimenting with it but I still considering rush the Great Pyramids tech straight to Civil Service to be a better investment and I'm sad that it's nerfed now as the 50% + 25% from Citizenship was incredibly convenient but 25% + 25% will hopefully still be just as good considering the changes they made to some of the tile improvements.
I'm glad they've made a lot of changes regarding the Honor and Autocracy policy, City Defenses, and Combat in general as the changes in the AI only making units based on threat levels sort of gives more power to backstabbing an AI and reduces the chances of being overwhelmed when starting war due to the AI already having a large army for no reason but I think the trade off is being more likely to lose due to a Diplomatic or Cultural victory since the AI is going to have more money to spend on City States and Buildings if they aren't pressured to make units.
With the new changes to the Honor Policy, we might want to go complete warmonger on our next game on the next patch!
Honor
-Honor Opener now additionally provides Culture for each barbarian killed. -Warrior Code now also gives 15% melee unit production. -Military Caste now provides +1 Happiness and +2 Culture for each city with a garrison. -Professional Army now reduces cost of upgrading units by 33% and provides +1 Happiness per defensive building (Walls, Castle, Arsenal, Military base). -Honor Finisher: Grants gold for each enemy unit killed.
Haha, I think writ forgot to delegate a turn, (that or he expected us to go with the List and Casta fell asleep at the wheel).
With the new patch coming up, I think most of us are just waiting. <.< The patch does some fairly significant changes and while the save files are supposed to still work, the balance changes are going to be effective immediately where the most notable changes will be to happiness and Social policies which could potentially kick a good game in the guts.
Patch is supposed to be end of June/Early July. If we don't finish this game, pretty sure we will start a new one after.
P.S.: I think I have time either this evening or tomorrow evening (EST) for a 40 turn set.
That is the best of all possible face/emoticons. Is it possible to bring the Mongol Game into the new patch? Like, is everything forwards-compatible? because if so there's no need to restart.
Yes it is, it is the save I got from Danjoh awhile back while we were still doing our China game. So it's all good and proper. Maybe we can finish it before the patch?
Steam deals are always a different beast, so I don't know if on some day it will be cheaper, but I'd keep an eye on this for sure... I'm likely picking up Civ packs... So I won't be able to make the initial save files after this week .
Erm... yeah so it turns out I'm going to not have an internet connection for exactly 14 days starting today. (( Remove me from the rotation for now. I'm really sorry about that. When I get back I'm TOTALLY in though.
On July 01 2011 04:41 Blazinghand wrote: Erm... yeah so it turns out I'm going to not have an internet connection for exactly 14 days starting today. (( Remove me from the rotation for now. I'm really sorry about that. When I get back I'm TOTALLY in though.
=( Guess I'm up, day off tomorrow, I'll get it done before I go use my excuse to get drunk card.
Steam deals are always a different beast, so I don't know if on some day it will be cheaper, but I'd keep an eye on this for sure... I'm likely picking up Civ packs... So I won't be able to make the initial save files after this week .
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That's why. I don't quite understand it, but it's whatever. I was overly aggressive in another thread and was warned for that first (rightly deserved), so I think the mod was power tripping or particularly irked him personally and decided to do it to another post, on a thread that I hosted no less. I'm not gonna make a deal about it and press on.
Looking forward to your update, Furycrab! The national college is 3 turns away but the new patch nerfed the opening...so curious on how you do this one.
Steam deals are always a different beast, so I don't know if on some day it will be cheaper, but I'd keep an eye on this for sure... I'm likely picking up Civ packs... So I won't be able to make the initial save files after this week .
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That's why. I don't quite understand it, but it's whatever. I was overly aggressive in another thread and was warned for that first (rightly deserved), so I think the mod was power tripping or particularly irked him personally and decided to do it to another post, on a thread that I hosted no less. I'm not gonna make a deal about it and press on.
Looking forward to your update, Furycrab! The national college is 3 turns away but the new patch nerfed the opening...so curious on how you do this one.
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They have it preatty clearly labeled in their rules.
Also hope this topic gets back on track, really enjoy reading the summaries!
Err was gonna start, but save file link is broken <.<. Spear if you can PM me or something with it.
I'm going with the Mongol Save file I found a few posts earlier, god help me now! Starting!
Done, Working on the write up. New patch screwed us a little in this game, but I still think it can be fun stuff, especially with the Mongols. Hint: It screwed up our start pretty badly.
You'll have to apologize that I don't have too many Screenshots, I had a few issues with it at first but I think I got the most of it.
I loaded up on Turn 41 and the first glaring problem was right in my face... NC start doesn't quite work anymore since you need philosophy and not Writing.
The NC which was just a few turns away turns out to be an ocean away, with Philosophy over 15 turns away.
* I did attempt to salvage it with a Great Library start hoping the game would be nice to me, but it failed horribly at turn 50 and even woodcutting and production focus only would have gotten me the library at 51-54. Heartbreaking, but I reloaded and went a different route.
Being born in a Society where liberty seems to be highly encouraged, and seeing that the continent I'm currently on is fairly large with a ton of good land around me, I set out a bit ICS style and eventually as you will see in the last shot I have now 3 extra cities in decent spots for resources and a 4th one coming with the hopes that we will see another City next to the Wine fields and Oasis.
I still had a scout down south and after about 2 or 3 turns I found these strange men...
They seemed to be in very distant lands so they seemed fairly friendly, and wouldn't really get in my way of eventually exploding out of Mongolian lands into smashing the English.
We left on friendly terms, but it became very quickly apparent that he wasn't on good terms with Ghandi and that Ghandi might be losing. I would avoid making friends with Ghandi to avoid frustrating these "Germans"
I quickly set out as I mentioned and settled our second "Great City"
For those that want to know, the germans are at the very southern edge of the map you see in that shot.
As you can see there's one good spot to our west where I believe we should set down near the Wine, and further West you can see the Vile English, our "diplomats" tell me that they are keeping good relations with the English. However the Great Khan, sees bigger plans, however with great Wisdom I highly recommend we wait until our so called Declaration of Friendship and "Research" agreement expires as seen here...
We eventually set out and built a third city and we got a very important piece of research done...
And yes... Albeit a certain bug made me see this much earlier... There was not one, but 3 Iron Resources on my lands. About 10 Iron total. The English might not even know what hit them!
Sadly my turn winded down and because I had setup to keep up in Research with everyone I had to keep things fairly peaceful. I did however manage to settle a forth city which should prove decent at production along with being right next to an Extra Silver and Iron.
I also was almost done with a 4th settler which I had hoped to plant next to the wine to the west being a good strategic place to plant my armies and eventually hop into English lands after our so called Deals had ended.
Final Strategic View of our budding empire.
Things I want to tell my successor.
1) Stick to the Liberty tree till it's complete and hopefully get something good with the free GP, after that I would recommend Piety since it will make managing our huge empire much easier.
2) My southern scouts have seen a large piece of land that is unexploited, should war seem unlikely, an alternative would be to expand in those lands. However you may need a bit of naval tech.
3) Keep producing a few extra units every now and again so we can keep some measure of respect and not have AIs think of us as weak and break any Deals (you have an RA with almost everyone you know)
4) Try to get us in a position where we can have a caravel or two around 110-120, Our continent is huge, however we might be able to do some great trade (and it reduces the cost of future techs) with other people while we slowly turn this continent into Mongolia.
5) My settler coming up next turn had a fairly good spot to the west with 2 Oasis and 1 wine.
6) Start connecting the closer cities so that when we get Meritocracy we can have a bonus 3-5 happiness.
Okay guys im back from vacation. Still want to continue this thread...... I would suggest that we start over completely and make a new list of players so we know who is still active and who is not. Just a suggestion, feel free to ignore it.
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