NBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 75

On May 13 2011 13:00 iLoveKT wrote:

I wish i had your confidence. But in my prediction (might be a little biased ), bulls will win the series because of home court advantage.

On May 13 2011 12:16 cLutZ wrote:


You are confused. That is ok, because the post you are quoting is me asking about another post about which I was confused. I do not think Rose will be shut down and I think it will be some great basketball to watch.

However, my understanding of the post I was talking about was that he thought Rose would be shut down completely AND the games would be good. I simply did not and do not understand that logic.

On May 13 2011 13:41 jmbthirteen wrote:
Ha Bulls in 5? It took them 5 games to beat the Pacers.

Miami will win in 6 or 7.

On May 13 2011 14:31 ilikejokes wrote:

The Pacers managed to take one game off of a Bulls team that wasn't playing up to par. It took the Heat 5 games to beat the 76ers, and then 5 games to beat a neutered and aging Boston team playing with a 50% (at best) Rondo... it's also worth noting that:

1) the Pacers were throwing their 6'8" best defender at Rose, something the Heat can't do without leaving somebody practically unguarded
2) the Bulls' issues with man defense will be less of a factor against the ultra-un-balanced Heat than they were against the ultra-balanced Pacers
3) the Pacers (especially Jeff "Elbows" Foster) were getting away with some particularly violent fouls (even if a couple of them were upgraded to flagrant I after the game, it's not like that means you get extra possessions in a game that already ended)

There's no way Miami wins in 6 unless Wade pulls another shady as hell move like he did slamming Rondo down onto the parquet. Winning in 7 would require them to take a game at the United Center (not happening).

Any way you slice it I see the Bulls winning the series unless some miracle and/or cheating saves it for Wade and friends. Rose and Wade will likely cancel each other out every game and LeBron will barely win the match-up with Deng; but Boozer/Noah will have their way with Bosh/[heat center], Thibs will solve the Heat while Spoelstra can only hurt his team, and the Bulls' bench mob will outplay the Heat's lack of a supporting cast (in the playoffs thus far the Bulls bench is beating the Heat bench handily in every major statistical category except turnovers, where the Heat reserves barely have an edge that is more than accounted for by the enormous disparity in steals/blocks/rebounds etc.)

On May 13 2011 14:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
hahahhaa, everything said by that guy sounded like bulls fanboyism and anti heat bias any way you put it

On May 13 2011 15:09 VENDIZ wrote:
Wow, I've been a Bulls fan for my entire basketball life, but some of the things you guys are saying are just unreasonable.. The regular season meetings doesn't mean anything at all, this is the playoffs. By some of yours logic the Heat should've never won versus the Celtics because the C's won during the regular season. You also have to take into account that Miami's bench was more or less absent for most of the regular season, but has shown up to play during the post-season - that is a huge change.

If Booz keeps avg. 11,4PPG against the Heat, we could get in trouble really fast, because you can't expect Rose to drop 35PPG in a series like that, and in addition get scoring from more people than Deng. Regardless of how things will play out in the upcoming series I'm extremely happy with the way our season has panned out - being in the ECF is a huge experience for most of the guys, and we'll benefit greatly for it even if our season ends - of course I want my team to grab the title, but we've got a young team with a good future ahead of us.

On May 13 2011 14:31 ilikejokes wrote:

The Pacers managed to take one game off of a Bulls team that wasn't playing up to par. It took the Heat 5 games to beat the 76ers, and then 5 games to beat a neutered and aging Boston team playing with a 50% (at best) Rondo... it's also worth noting that:

1) the Pacers were throwing their 6'8" best defender at Rose, something the Heat can't do without leaving somebody practically unguarded
2) the Bulls' issues with man defense will be less of a factor against the ultra-un-balanced Heat than they were against the ultra-balanced Pacers
3) the Pacers (especially Jeff "Elbows" Foster) were getting away with some particularly violent fouls (even if a couple of them were upgraded to flagrant I after the game, it's not like that means you get extra possessions in a game that already ended)

There's no way Miami wins in 6 unless Wade pulls another shady as hell move like he did slamming Rondo down onto the parquet. Winning in 7 would require them to take a game at the United Center (not happening).

Any way you slice it I see the Bulls winning the series unless some miracle and/or cheating saves it for Wade and friends. Rose and Wade will likely cancel each other out every game and LeBron will barely win the match-up with Deng; but Boozer/Noah will have their way with Bosh/[heat center], Thibs will solve the Heat while Spoelstra can only hurt his team, and the Bulls' bench mob will outplay the Heat's lack of a supporting cast (in the playoffs thus far the Bulls bench is beating the Heat bench handily in every major statistical category except turnovers, where the Heat reserves barely have an edge that is more than accounted for by the enormous disparity in steals/blocks/rebounds etc.)

You can't shut Rose down without non-stop double teams, and if the rest of the Bulls play the way they did in Game 6 then double-teaming Rose is one of the worst decisions you can make.

On May 13 2011 15:52 Ace wrote:
ugh. Fanboyism.

On May 13 2011 14:31 ilikejokes wrote:

The Pacers managed to take one game off of a Bulls team that wasn't playing up to par. It took the Heat 5 games to beat the 76ers, and then 5 games to beat a neutered and aging Boston team playing with a 50% (at best) Rondo... it's also worth noting that:

1) the Pacers were throwing their 6'8" best defender at Rose, something the Heat can't do without leaving somebody practically unguarded
2) the Bulls' issues with man defense will be less of a factor against the ultra-un-balanced Heat than they were against the ultra-balanced Pacers
3) the Pacers (especially Jeff "Elbows" Foster) were getting away with some particularly violent fouls (even if a couple of them were upgraded to flagrant I after the game, it's not like that means you get extra possessions in a game that already ended)

There's no way Miami wins in 6 unless Wade pulls another shady as hell move like he did slamming Rondo down onto the parquet. Winning in 7 would require them to take a game at the United Center (not happening).

Any way you slice it I see the Bulls winning the series unless some miracle and/or cheating saves it for Wade and friends. Rose and Wade will likely cancel each other out every game and LeBron will barely win the match-up with Deng; but Boozer/Noah will have their way with Bosh/[heat center], Thibs will solve the Heat while Spoelstra can only hurt his team, and the Bulls' bench mob will outplay the Heat's lack of a supporting cast (in the playoffs thus far the Bulls bench is beating the Heat bench handily in every major statistical category except turnovers, where the Heat reserves barely have an edge that is more than accounted for by the enormous disparity in steals/blocks/rebounds etc.)

On May 13 2011 15:39 jmbthirteen wrote:


Of course no matter what you see the Bulls winning, your a Chicago fan. I know exactly what happened in the Pacers series, I'm a Pacers fan. The reason the Pacers lost to the Bulls was they don't have a player on Rose's level and they don't have a consistent number 2 guy for Granger. Guess what? The Heat have 2 players above Rose's level and have a consistent 1, 2 punch.

Paul George and Dahanty Jones guarded Rose. Dwyane Wade and LeBron James can do the same. The Pacers chose to put their smaller point guards on Bogans/Korver (who did kill them). But the reason for this switch was more because Collison and Price are terrible defenders. Now when Bibby is in the game, he can't guard Rose, so Wade or LeBron will. But when Chalmers is in the game, he can guard Rose. No one can stop Rose, but they can make it more difficult. Miami is an outstanding defensive team. Much better than the Pacers. Miami is even playing better defense in the post season than the Bulls are.

And I find it funny how Bulls fans complain about Foster for his physical PLAYOFF basketball when Noah and Boozer are just as bad. Every damn rebound, Boozer just blatantly pushes his opponent, even when they are in the air, making it extremely dangerous. Oh and he tried to take out Hansbrough's legs when he had the steal and fastbreak dunk. But yeah, the Pacers were the only one getting away with physical play... Its called the playoffs, man up or get out.

Boston is a far better team than Atlanta. Sure Rondo was 50%, but Atlanta was playing without their starting point guard. So yeah... Oh and it took Chicago more games to beat Atlanta, than it did for Miami to beat Boston.

Keep living in fantasy land for now. Chicago is just the Cleveland Cavaliers of yesterday. They have one great player, but rely on him way too much. They play great defense, but in the playoffs all of the top teams do.

Quite frankly your post lost all credibility when you say LeBron barely wins the match up with Deng. Seriously dude, get that shit outta here. Boozer/Bosh is a wash, both are extremely overrated, but Bosh is only asked to be the third option so its not as bad. Noah has an advantage over Joel Anthony, but not by a whole lot. Wade is way better than any SG on Chicago. Rose has a clear advantage at the point guard spot.

Oh and Spolestra is a much better coach than you give him credit for. He is a mini Pat Riley. Riley wouldn't have kept him as head coach if he didn't think he could get the job done ( see firing of Stan Van Gundy in 2006).

Chicago has a better bench, but they also play much deeper than Miami. But Wade/James/Bosh all play about 40 mins a game. They don't rely on their bench. They rely on their starters. Chicago needs their bench to step up because of how horrible Boozer is as a second option. Dude is fucking terrible. Paid like a number one, plays like a number three.

Miami wins in 6. They have the best players in the league. Rose won MVP, and I think he deserved it. But he is no Wade or LeBron. And thats what it comes down to. No one can do it alone. Thats why those two teamed up. Rose will learn this lesson very soon too.

On May 13 2011 16:10 Durantula wrote:


1) D-wade is a helluva lot better on-the-ball defender than anyone the Pacers or Hawks had to throw at rose.

2) Right so instead of not rotating/switching correctly, they will just get toasted in isos with lebron/wade. Lets face it the bulls do not have a shutdown wing defender, which is probably gonna lead to them getting torched by lebron.

3) Playoff fouls happen in the playoffs.

And lets be honest, the United Center is a fairly average homecourt. I'm not saying this with any bias, I live in Chicago, but the individual matchups just don't favor the bulls here. Coaching wise, the Bulls are much better off, so maybe that will make the difference.

On May 13 2011 16:06 Holcan wrote:

Well it is the playoffs thread, how many of these people were posting in the regular season thread for its entirety, or posting in the offseason thread, its sort of to be expected the fervor of fanboys will be 10 fold.