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That flagrant foul was bullshit.
The free throw disparity is ridiculous but that's how Miami wins all of its games so whatever.
I'm just loving this though (Bulls - Heat)
Made 2-pointers: 35 > 32
Made 3-pointers: 6 > 5
Rebounds: 42 > 41
Assists: 20 > 12
Turnovers: 19 < 15
Blocks: 5 < 10
So the Bulls put the ball in the hoop more despite turning the ball over way too damn much and the Heat getting some sick blocks (and some questionable "blocks," but whatever). But then there's this laugher:
Fouls: 28 < 24
Free Throw Attempts: 22 < 38
Free Throws Made: 17 < 32
Now, I realize a lot of Miami's fouls came on the offensive end of the floor, but these stats, to me, are such a joke.
It's a floppers' league though so whatever.
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On May 25 2011 13:09 ilikejokes wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit.
The free throw disparity is ridiculous but that's how Miami wins all of its games so whatever.
I'm just loving this though (Bulls - Heat)
Made 2-pointers: 35 > 32
Made 3-pointers: 6 > 5
Rebounds: 42 > 41
Assists: 20 > 12
Turnovers: 19 < 15
Blocks: 5 < 10
So the Bulls put the ball in the hoop more despite turning the ball over way too damn much and the Heat getting some sick blocks (and some questionable "blocks," but whatever). But then there's this laugher:
Fouls: 28 < 24
Free Throw Attempts: 22 < 38
Free Throws Made: 17 < 32
Now, I realize a lot of Miami's fouls came on the offensive end of the floor, but these stats, to me, are such a joke.
It's a floppers' league though so whatever.
it's called miami heat-disciplined defense
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On May 25 2011 13:14 Rtran10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:09 ilikejokes wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit.
The free throw disparity is ridiculous but that's how Miami wins all of its games so whatever.
I'm just loving this though (Bulls - Heat)
Made 2-pointers: 35 > 32
Made 3-pointers: 6 > 5
Rebounds: 42 > 41
Assists: 20 > 12
Turnovers: 19 < 15
Blocks: 5 < 10
So the Bulls put the ball in the hoop more despite turning the ball over way too damn much and the Heat getting some sick blocks (and some questionable "blocks," but whatever). But then there's this laugher:
Fouls: 28 < 24
Free Throw Attempts: 22 < 38
Free Throws Made: 17 < 32
Now, I realize a lot of Miami's fouls came on the offensive end of the floor, but these stats, to me, are such a joke.
It's a floppers' league though so whatever.
it's called miami heat-disciplined defense
Yeah it's really not. It's called Joe Crawford refereeing.
Edit: don't get me wrong, the Heat didn't commit that many fouls on defense for sure. But they got way more calls on offense than they should have. That is literally the only reason this Wade/Lebron/Bosh + 9 stiffs thing is working.
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That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face
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On May 25 2011 13:15 travis wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face
It was bullshit. Someone earlier in the thread was saying Jeff Foster's fouls were just "playoff fouls" and not flagrant fouls? That foul was not as hard as either of the Foster flagrants. Bosh flopped hard. That's all there is to it.
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It was definitely a flagrant. The follow through against the body is not a basketball play.
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Yeah, boozers left arm shove was what made it a flagrant
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The officiating had nothing to do with the outcome of this game. There will ALWAYS be bad calls in EVERY game, it's a very fast-paced sport. I know this because I've been a ref myself and still catch myself judging the referees when I'm watching NBA. Of course there have been some bad calls and some not-called fouls but they went both ways as it is the case most of the time. You have to deal with it, otherwise you should'nt watch NBA basketball - or basketball in general for that matter.
I dare even say that the refs did a pretty good job in this game, Miami was simply far more aggressive in drawing fouls.
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On May 25 2011 13:20 ilikejokes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:15 travis wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face It was bullshit. Someone earlier in the thread was saying Jeff Foster's fouls were just "playoff fouls" and not flagrant fouls? That foul was not as hard as either of the Foster flagrants. Bosh flopped hard. That's all there is to it.
I'm not sure where u watched the game but if u had it on TNT/TSN you would have heard the commentators agree that it was a flagrant foul and bosh's 'flopping' was the exact thing to do in that situation.
Plus Boozer was getting dirtier as the game went on and he wasn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that time around.
also, heat are the better team so, you can try to dissect the game all you want but lebron and co. and non-rose fanboys know whats up
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On May 25 2011 13:20 slyboogie wrote:
It was definitely a flagrant. The follow through against the body is not a basketball play.
Did Boozer's left arm make contact with Bosh? Yes.
Was Boozer ALSO making a play for the ball with his other hand? Yes.
Look Boozer played shitty defense there and there was obviously a foul, but it wasn't a flagrant. Bosh sold it well and Joey Crawford was ready to pull the trigger on the flagrant. It just wasn't there.
Edit: to clarify, if you're going by the (extremely vague) rules about flagrant fouls, then yes you can make the argument that it was a flagrant 1; however, when they've been allowing similarly physical play on both ends of the floor, I find it horrifying inconsistent to award the flagrant in that specific situation.
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Chicago got own hard how? here is what happened in clutch time.
Chicago's best play is Rose isolation on top of the key, this plays out in 2 different scenarios
1st, big man comes up to pick off the on ball defender, if this happens its an instant double team, and follow by Ball denial to never let rose touch the ball again.
2nd, no pick comming, rose needs to 1vs1 james / Wade, James at over 200lbs 6'8'' was able to keep himself in front of rose and make rose take a difficult shot.
Why does rose need to be on top of the key? more space for him to operate. But James and Wade was too good of On-ball defender vs a tired out rose at the end of the game. Rose should have taken the ball on the side and drive from base line. Why should rose take the ball to base line? The base line has less space, and rose doesn't have as much options for his shots, but his passing lane from going baseline also opens up. His teammates can cut and stretch space by standing on top of the key. He will draw in all 5 ppl to focus on him, right under the basket he has the option to pass the ball to the other baseline, and to the top of the key, and to any teammates cutting to the basket. When the Ace of the team gets owned 1vs1 and no other option is available its time to play some team games, Rose recognize that too late, too confident and didn't take into account of his stamina. Next year he will not make the same mistake.
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On May 25 2011 13:25 Rtran10 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:20 ilikejokes wrote:On May 25 2011 13:15 travis wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face It was bullshit. Someone earlier in the thread was saying Jeff Foster's fouls were just "playoff fouls" and not flagrant fouls? That foul was not as hard as either of the Foster flagrants. Bosh flopped hard. That's all there is to it. I'm not sure where u watched the game but if u had it on TNT/TSN you would have heard the commentators agree that it was a flagrant foul and bosh's 'flopping' was the exact thing to do in that situation. Plus Boozer was getting dirtier as the game went on and he wasn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that time around. also, heat are the better team so, you can try to dissect the game all you want but lebron and co. and non-rose fanboys know whats up
Definitely was a flagrant. Chicago's offense is just atrocious, it has very little to do with Miami's "disciplined" defense. Erik Spoelstra isn't disciplining anyone.
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On May 25 2011 13:09 ilikejokes wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit.
The free throw disparity is ridiculous but that's how Miami wins all of its games so whatever.
I'm just loving this though (Bulls - Heat)
Made 2-pointers: 35 > 32
Made 3-pointers: 6 > 5
Rebounds: 42 > 41
Assists: 20 > 12
Turnovers: 19 < 15
Blocks: 5 < 10
So the Bulls put the ball in the hoop more despite turning the ball over way too damn much and the Heat getting some sick blocks (and some questionable "blocks," but whatever). But then there's this laugher:
Fouls: 28 < 24
Free Throw Attempts: 22 < 38
Free Throws Made: 17 < 32
Now, I realize a lot of Miami's fouls came on the offensive end of the floor, but these stats, to me, are such a joke.
It's a floppers' league though so whatever.
Let's go play some basketball i will rise one hand and the other hand i will sucker punch you in your face gogo? bo11
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On May 25 2011 13:28 Stoids wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:25 Rtran10 wrote:On May 25 2011 13:20 ilikejokes wrote:On May 25 2011 13:15 travis wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face It was bullshit. Someone earlier in the thread was saying Jeff Foster's fouls were just "playoff fouls" and not flagrant fouls? That foul was not as hard as either of the Foster flagrants. Bosh flopped hard. That's all there is to it. I'm not sure where u watched the game but if u had it on TNT/TSN you would have heard the commentators agree that it was a flagrant foul and bosh's 'flopping' was the exact thing to do in that situation. Plus Boozer was getting dirtier as the game went on and he wasn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that time around. also, heat are the better team so, you can try to dissect the game all you want but lebron and co. and non-rose fanboys know whats up Definitely was a flagrant. Chicago's offense is just atrocious, it has very little to do with Miami's "disciplined" defense. Erik Spoelstra isn't disciplining anyone.
Look, I'll accept that it was a flagrant, but they're letting people get away with regular fouls all damn game and then they call that a flagrant? That's the part that bugs the shit out of me about it.
Let's go play some basketball i will rise one hand and the other hand i will sucker punch you in your face gogo? bo11
You could foul me all you want, I'd still destroy you 1-on-1.
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guys he likes jokes, clearly his post is one big joke.....
hopefully?
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On May 25 2011 13:30 ilikejokes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:28 Stoids wrote:On May 25 2011 13:25 Rtran10 wrote:On May 25 2011 13:20 ilikejokes wrote:On May 25 2011 13:15 travis wrote:
That flagrant foul was bullshit? lmao watch it again he jumped into him and pushed his face It was bullshit. Someone earlier in the thread was saying Jeff Foster's fouls were just "playoff fouls" and not flagrant fouls? That foul was not as hard as either of the Foster flagrants. Bosh flopped hard. That's all there is to it. I'm not sure where u watched the game but if u had it on TNT/TSN you would have heard the commentators agree that it was a flagrant foul and bosh's 'flopping' was the exact thing to do in that situation. Plus Boozer was getting dirtier as the game went on and he wasn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that time around. also, heat are the better team so, you can try to dissect the game all you want but lebron and co. and non-rose fanboys know whats up Definitely was a flagrant. Chicago's offense is just atrocious, it has very little to do with Miami's "disciplined" defense. Erik Spoelstra isn't disciplining anyone. Look, I'll accept that it was a flagrant, but they're letting people get away with regular fouls all damn game and then they call that a flagrant? That's the part that bugs the shit out of me about it.
Officiating inconsistency now and forever will be a hot topic in the NBA playoffs. Bulls have no one to blame but themselves for that loss. Two huge last minute opportunities squandered by horrible coaching and no planning.
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On May 25 2011 13:30 Brees wrote:
guys he likes jokes, clearly his post is one big joke.....
hopefully?
It's certainly a joke that a team can put the ball in the hoop more times and lose the game.
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On May 25 2011 13:26 ilikejokes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 13:20 slyboogie wrote:
It was definitely a flagrant. The follow through against the body is not a basketball play. Did Boozer's left arm make contact with Bosh? Yes. Was Boozer ALSO making a play for the ball with his other hand? Yes. Look Boozer played shitty defense there and there was obviously a foul, but it wasn't a flagrant. Bosh sold it well and Joey Crawford was ready to pull the trigger on the flagrant. It just wasn't there.
so your point is that bosh sold the foul well and joey crawford ( i love how you call him by his name ) made a questionable call.
well great. whatever floats your boat as you try to come to terms with the fact that the Heat are up 3-1 by being aggressive and clutch when it matters most
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Pretty sure Bulls had the ball with 8 seconds left in the 4th. If the MVP can't clutch that for the win then its pretty clear the best team won this game.
Have to close, part of it. Like last night in the mavs game. Thunder couldn't finish and payed for it. Bulls lead most of the game and you have to prepare for that run the heat are going to make in the end.
I don't see how bulls fans can complain. You got the O-foul on Lebron to get the ball back. You couldn't have asked for a better situation. Maybe have your team not give it to they guy being guarded by the king.
Not like the bulls are out of this by any chance. You are going home to play. They should be able to bring this series back no problem.
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