Simply got beaten tonight, not happy with letting Bosh get 34 points... aswell as letting the Heat shoot 53%! Hopefully we can get back in this on Tuesday. but when we're not the best defensive team on the court we're not winning games :<

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

May 23 2011 03:05 GMT

#2002

lol bosh just took a giant shit on boozer, literally and verbally. Destroyed on and off the court.

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts

May 23 2011 03:05 GMT

#2003

Holy hell, what got in to Bosh tonight?!

rei

United States3594 Posts

May 23 2011 03:08 GMT

#2004

holy shit no longer the 2 and a half man show, Miami's got their 6 rings secured.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 23 2011 03:08 GMT

#2005

That's my heat! 4-1 im calling it and have been calling it!

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

May 23 2011 03:10 GMT

#2006

Kinda funny how people forgot that Chris Bosh has been a damn good player in this league for awhile. Not Wade/James level, but he's been playing at a high level for years.

rei

United States3594 Posts

May 23 2011 03:14 GMT

#2007

On May 23 2011 12:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
That's my heat! 4-1 im calling it and have been calling it!

WAHT? I am calling 6 rings, way ahead of you

ilikejokes

United States217 Posts

May 23 2011 03:22 GMT

#2008

they're not winning 6 rings

calm down everybody

Ducci

United States588 Posts

May 23 2011 03:26 GMT

#2009

I must say that even though boozer played good offensively, he missed many and 1 shots

rei

United States3594 Posts

May 23 2011 03:37 GMT

#2010

On May 23 2011 12:22 ilikejokes wrote:
they're not winning 6 rings

calm down everybody

how many?

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 23 2011 03:45 GMT

#2011

On May 23 2011 09:41 VENDIZ wrote:

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On May 23 2011 09:13 cLutZ wrote:

On May 23 2011 09:05 VENDIZ wrote:

On May 22 2011 13:41 slyboogie wrote:

On May 22 2011 13:35 Stoids wrote:

On May 22 2011 13:30 slyboogie wrote:

On May 22 2011 13:11 ilikejokes wrote:

On May 22 2011 13:01 igotmyown wrote:

On May 22 2011 12:31 slyboogie wrote:
Playoff basketball tends to grind like this, it's normal. And stop talking about the refs. It's the same every single season and somehow, through all odds, the NBA has managed to survive.

Most fans can't tell the criteria discerning blocking fouls from charges (it's not getting the feet set).

(my emphasis)
Case in point, because that's not fully correct. The rules are a lot more complicated/nuanced than that. For example, you can not have your feet set and if an offensive player lowers his shoulder into you or uses his forearm to move you out of the way, that's an offensive foul. Having your feet set below the circle under the rim on a play that initiates above the foul line is still a blocking foul, despite the fact that the defender's feet were set. MOST fans don't actually know the rules about traveling, fouls, and other violations. But SOME fans do, and those fans are oftentimes appalled by the quality of the officiating in the league.

The fact of the matter is it's a fixable problem but not until the collective bargaining agreement with the referees' union is up and they can renegotiate terms that would allow the NBA to penalize or dispose of particularly heinous refereeing.

How does this even happen? Like, a high pick and roll with the roller charging into a defender IN the circle? I'm trying to think and I don't really think I've ever seen this happen.

The restricted area rule? Like you said a high pick and roll where there's a clear path to the basket and the center sets in the circle and attempts to draw a charge. Or a player drives and squeezes through just to meet the center in the circle who has been set.

My point is, isn't it ALWAYS a block in the circle anyways?

Actually, in the Hawks vs Bulls series there was an incident that touched this field, but then they mentioned something about J. Smith not being <insert Bulls-player that I can't recall>'s primary defender, so the restricted area rule was not in play

.. or something of that matter! Some of the rules are confusing as hell, and rarely used.. The same goes for soccer, the official offside is so friggin complex it's make ones head implode (there's all sorts of stuff with the half circle at the 16 meter box and so forth)

The half circle is only there for Penalty kicks, it ensures that all players are at least 10 yards from the ball. This is a rule for all kicks, but is obviously enforced more strictly on the PK, which has special rules.

Offside is also incredibly easy. It is easiest to describe it as when a player is NOT offside.
For all the following, unless otherwise indicated, the "moment" is when a teammate has struck the ball.
You are not offside if you are on your half of the field.
You are not offside if you are behind the ball. (All corner kicks are treated as if they are taken from the goal line).
You are not offside if two members of the opposing team are closer to the opposing goal line than you.
You are not offside if you have intercepted the ball from an opposing player intentionally playing the ball. This does not include deflections, ricochets, etc.

What you just explained was the general idea of the offside rule, however, the "real" offside rule is far more complicated than that. I can't recall the exact rule, but the half circle is involved (it's not only there for penalty kicks). It's a classic trick question on football panels on TV etc

I hate to be so late in bringing this back up, but I stated the rule. There is no "trick" to it. Soccer has the most incredibly simple rules. I reffed high school and travel for 3 years when I was in college, offside is really easy from a rules standpoint, the hard part is the execution, not the rules.

The FILA rulebook is below. There are some more exceptions that I didn't state earlier (goal kick, throw in) but nothing to do with the circle at all.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

Signet

United States1718 Posts

May 23 2011 03:54 GMT

#2012

If Bosh shoots like that, Miami is going to win the title. I thought Chicago played well overall - shooting could have been better but it wasn't awful, they defended James pretty well and held Wade to 17 points on 17 shots. But there is not much you can do when Bosh is hitting like that from the outside.

I would like to see Chicago commit to forcing Bosh to make those jumpers though. Even when he's hitting, no need to bite on pumps and let him penetrate. If the Heat beat you with long jumpers, you live with that.

ilikejokes

United States217 Posts

May 23 2011 03:55 GMT

#2013

On May 23 2011 12:37 rei wrote:

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how many?

if/when they win 1, we can talk about them winning 2

blizzind

United States642 Posts

May 23 2011 04:04 GMT

#2014

lebron and bosh were pretty sick this game. bulls can't stop the bron/bosh combo.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

May 23 2011 04:07 GMT

#2015

Poor Korver getting the wrong end of a fastbreak by Wade and James on consecutive possessions. xD

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 23 2011 04:28 GMT

#2016

On May 23 2011 13:07 Jerubaal wrote:
Poor Korver getting the wrong end of a fastbreak by Wade and James on consecutive possessions. xD

Korver should not be in. I'm starting to think that perhaps the Bulls should just leverage their only advantage: Size and go with a Rose/Deng/Boozer/Gibson/Noah lineup.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

May 23 2011 04:36 GMT

#2017

Boozer at the three? Lebron would annihilate him. I'm starting to feel bad just thinking about it. Deng at shooting guard isn't great either. That lineup might have some positives but it isn't something they can run out very often.