On May 04 2011 05:51 graph1k wrote: Messi may have dived once or twice, but he is undeniably the HARDEST working player in football. Barca are a great side and actually play football. TBH I see them dive this bad only against RM, and thats pretty much for the reason stated above.
I do believe Adebayor grabbing Messi's shoulders and pulling him back would be a foul even in the Premier League, so I don't know what you are getting at with that comment about English football.
Face it, Barca outplayed Real here, you guys don't need to get mad.
Barça outplayed but outplaying doesn't mean you win a match.
Rofl, because you know, it's a common and predictable occurrence for the team that was outplayed to win in football.
This is a joke right?
You said that, that is common but that doesn't happen always.
That was a nasty over exaggerated tumble from mascherano. a few moments later they showed the replay in slow mo from the front angle you see without a doubt that Ronaldo's shoulder lands right on Mascherano's back heel... and then he just came tumbling down like a sissy. I really wish he would of tried to still go, but he didn't and it's technically a foul. :/ He's still a baby though -.-
Technically assuming what was done to Mascherano deserved to be called a fowl (in the context in which it occured), RM should have had a free kick for not getting an advantage. See below:
Once again Mourinho got away with his victimization plan. They should be thankful that they invalidated Higuain's goal (it was legit imo) because otherwise their fans would realise that Kaka is a ghost, CR chokes, Ozil is erratic, Albiol is terribad and Diarra had to run like mad to fill the holes his lazy companions left. They feel robbed? Mourinho should go to Sevilla and ask how to deal with it. They have vast experience.
On May 04 2011 05:35 Megatronn wrote: Rofl. What Pedro just did is a clear second yellow, wtf, i'm starting to find Uefa games to be a disgraces to Football.
Funny how we were saying the same things during the World Cup, eh?
I think people are finally realizing how fallible refs are with HD slowmotion cameras catching action at every angle. I have to admit that the refs are actually pretty damn good all things considered, but if the system is changed even a little bit, refs would have an easier time and the game as a whole would be far better off.
he plays barca, the archrival of RM in the CL - semi finals,
and choses to play with a complete defense shutdown tactic, involving physical play his only goal in the first half in Madrid was not to concede a goal, better not even let them get near the goal so that the barca players get impatient and start to make mistakes so that his team eventually capitalizes from the mistakes and if not, he is happy to go to barca with a 0:0 and look how things will turn out in camp nou
this may be a valid way to win with porto, or Inter, but if you are in Madrid, formerly know as Galácticos RM has standards, they are the most successful club in europe, winning the most CL (and the old cup, don't know how it is cold) of all clubs they have to win, and do so with grace
but things go differently as planned, pepe is sent off after a reckless tacle - did the referee do something wrong with the red card? - no, because pepe clearly went in with far too much speed not giving a shit about the health of alves (other people have worded that better than me) will every referee give this red card? no, a lot of them will give only a yellow card
so after the first game in madrid mourinho achieved the follwing: - winning copa del rey, congratulations you were now as successful as Real Betis, Zaragossa, Mallorca, Espanyol (all winners like 5 years ago) - being 8 points down in la liga, including a shameful 5:0 defeat in the first leg in barcelona - being in the CL semi finals after quite some while, BUT being down 2:0 but worse, being down 2:0 with a shameful tactic that is not worthy for such a wonderful club like RM, the galacticos, the whites
managers have been fired from real madrid, even though they were more successful than him
so what does mourinho do? he blames the referee, who did a perfectly fine job, and goes completely ravage with assumptions about conspiracies, bringing in the shit: UNICEF - president of barca stuff tells the press: "oh, sorry we couldn't win, because greater forces than us didn't want us to succeed! If we have had a chance, we would have done it for sure, but..."
and people and the press buys it, that's the fascinating thing for me really
edit: forget to mention how much pressure mourinhio put on the referee in camp nou, because he said (basically) before the match that barca is going to be favored so now the perspective will be completely different (at least it was like this for me): was this really a fould on a barca player? or did he just dive? was this a just decision... did he favor barca?...I hope you see what I am getting at, I have not enough english skills
One thing surprised me: and that is that Mourinho told the players (and the press) beforehand that Madrid wouldn't stand a chance. Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy? It's seems so unlike Mourinho to risk that. Another bit struck me as strange. When I saw Pepe coming up I just knew he'd get a red card sooner or later, and with me thousands of others. Why didn't Mourinho see that? The special one that worked magic with Porto, Chelsea and Inter seemed a different man during this semi final.
a lot of Mourinho's self performance is a big show with which he intends to take the pressure of off the team and focus the news on him! but sometimes it seems like he overreacts in his roles
On May 04 2011 17:36 Dakmaniac wrote: a lot of Mourinho's self performance is a big show with which he intends to take the pressure of off the team and focus the news on him! but sometimes it seems like he overreacts in his roles
People are still only talking about him and not the team, so it's working I rate
Although Ronaldo is trying to steal the spotlight with the not so smart comments he made
tbh i think its just bad sportsmanship ! players like ronaldo , casillas etc. should get punished for their behaviour !! they're players which are idolized by many young fans all over the world !! is this the kind of behaviour they should learn from them ? always complain about the referee or making up some unhealthy theorys ? thats the reason why players like these will never get my respect although they may play football very well ! to be a overall good and professional player there are other things which are important aswell, not only being good with the ball !!
if you cannot lose like a man then better keep your mouth shut !
On May 04 2011 05:35 Megatronn wrote: Rofl. What Pedro just did is a clear second yellow, wtf, i'm starting to find Uefa games to be a disgraces to Football.
you konw what is a disgrace to football ? it's the way madrid played the first 3 games of the series. yesterday they showed us that they could offer a great game if they actually TRIED to play football and NOT get their asses spanked if they did. i couldn't imagine how awesome it would have been if they did the same at home, or for the copa del rey finals. shame on you mourinho, you offered us an abomination of football for 3 games only to show us that it was the worst possible tactic in the last one, at least you could have made the last one a butchery to leave us with no regrets nor expectations about your team.
Protecting the players is their first duty, and the guy just refused sending players off. Both Adebayor and that other black guy (Lass on shirt, but not true name?) on Madrid were literally only on the field to foul, and did plenty. They really know how to stomp on someones foot or ankle inconspicously.
The only reasonable decision i've seen was the yellow card to pedro for what looked like an attempt at amputation.
By Rules there should've been a lot more yellows. For both sides. But i really can't see how Real Madrid can be complaining about reds; not even their already yellow carded players show any restraint whatsoever.
Also: clearly the kings Real Madrid are winning the Kings Cup and Barca get free wins for CL and League.