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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:11:50
April 10 2011 07:10 GMT
#581
As funny as this sound, from glancing the forums. Sawks is planning to add Icarus / Dynasty gear which would make the current weapon grind pointless and add a whole new level of grind. I guess I'll stick around a bit and see how it turns out. If Sawks continues the server like this atleast there will be some hilarious drama.

If he is planning to add Icarus / Dynasty gear I'd recommend holding on your SA crystals and not add it to your weapons yet (maybe Icarus will require 10k SA frags instead)
Sernyl
Profile Joined March 2011
Lithuania113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:13:26
April 10 2011 07:12 GMT
#582
Funny fact,all the servers sawk made were like this...down to the last one.Honestly,this server has the best start of them all since i don't see kamaels soloing 9 people.

I know how this will end.This is probably the 4th or 5th Sawk server.He opens up the donations,people buy a few things,2 months later the server "closes".Another few months later it reopens with no donation refund ( or atleast giving AIO to people who bought it previously) and the circle keeps going.
He gets the money,server closes,reopens,he gets the money,server closes,reopens.

Same thing happens with so many lineage2 servers.

The only up side of the server is that you can meet a few cool people and maybe enjoy a few pvp runs now and again.After the server closes you might have a few friends from the experience,it's always a nice thing.


I wont be bothering lvling anymore if really,just gonna merchant and start making a shitload of money....See where the server goes.
OK
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
April 10 2011 07:17 GMT
#583
if hes trying to destroy a decent server.

hes doing the exact right things
young ho
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
April 10 2011 09:55 GMT
#584
Sawk'ed Pack : 150€
Aio Character
Main Lvl 85
1 Subclass lvl 80
Subclass Status
Noblesse Status
S Grade Set Jewels, Weapon, Armor +0 With SA
500 kk Adena
10 kk AA
2 Hat


rofl.
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
Dog22
Profile Joined April 2010
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 10:46:10
April 10 2011 10:43 GMT
#585
"As for the donation, there will be no donation for "items" ( well, if you don't consider fun hats and mask as "items")."

This is a direct quote from the front page where he announced the opening of this new server. I'm not going to play on a server with someone who deceives people and doesn't know what he wants his server to actually be like. In my opinion, it's just a start of what will become a donation heavy server or very inconsistent server in regard to its core features. This was the MAIN thing that had me going to this server -- the fact that there would be NO donation for items. It's ONE week in, and you can donate for this kind of stuff. Too early, too much. Also, a complete and blatant lie.

edit: I'm down to do one last pvp fling. I'm 85 with noblesse so we could start some crazy stuff I think if we had a decent group. Not sure when I'll log in again though.
epik151
Profile Joined February 2008
312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 11:09:49
April 10 2011 11:08 GMT
#586
I'm just gonna put focus SA on my archer who is 79 right now, get to 81 and just pvp nonstop.

Why not enjoy some pvp. Besides, spent 75 on an AIO we might as well get some use out of it. Will probably attempt to refund if he really does take the server down in a month.

Server is back up, by the way. Gotta update again.

Thanks Blizzind for telling us in IRC.
epik151
Profile Joined February 2008
312 Posts
April 10 2011 11:15 GMT
#587
Sawk just announced sieges will start next weekend.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
April 10 2011 12:22 GMT
#588
On April 10 2011 20:08 epik151 wrote:
I'm just gonna put focus SA on my archer who is 79 right now, get to 81 and just pvp nonstop.

Why not enjoy some pvp. Besides, spent 75 on an AIO we might as well get some use out of it. Will probably attempt to refund if he really does take the server down in a month.

Server is back up, by the way. Gotta update again.

Thanks Blizzind for telling us in IRC.

Once he add dynasties(this week I think) S grades are gonna be useless.
oh, hai
Expunge
Profile Joined March 2010
Belize4 Posts
April 10 2011 14:18 GMT
#589
if he doesn't add donations for anything beyond what he already has, i don't think it's that big of a deal...unfortunately it feels pretty deceptive for him to have clearly stated no donations for items and then to go back on that so soon.

I'll keep playing and wait to see if he continues to add upgraded donations or not
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 10 2011 19:26 GMT
#590
On April 10 2011 23:18 Expunge wrote:
if he doesn't add donations for anything beyond what he already has, i don't think it's that big of a deal...unfortunately it feels pretty deceptive for him to have clearly stated no donations for items and then to go back on that so soon.

I'll keep playing and wait to see if he continues to add upgraded donations or not


It took him 5 days to change his mind on one of the core philosophies of his server lol.
epik151
Profile Joined February 2008
312 Posts
April 10 2011 22:16 GMT
#591
"Quote from: Sawk on April 08, 2011, 11:10:49 pm
Hello,

Actually I didn't touched the archers at all. I've let the retail Hellbound stats that are gaven from the begining. The only class nerfed is the mage (with their low magic critical, just compare it to retail).
So far, the server is still in an early state, let's see what happens when the dynasty is here and especialy the dynasty jewels, I am pretty sure it will change the done (like always).

I remember thoses kind of topic from the old Renewal, and when the archer started to stuff up (with attributes dynasty and even icarus), everybody was crying about the archer beeing op criting for 4k on mages.

The most funny thing is that the complain comes from player who do not even have a SA on their draconic bow and so far aren't 81+. People started today to farm attribute stone (even if it's divine). I am sure it will mainly boost the fighters damages (and nerf a bit the poor necros damages).

I also checked the pvp vids, so far archers aren't doing bad if many clan uses mixed party (which is so far the best to win a pvp), and if you check it also take a look, you will see that archers aren't that bad even now in pvp with a group. Of course if you actualy hope to kill a dagger in 1v1 with an archer or a mage, I think you've chosen the wrong class (except if you are lucky with stun and crits)."
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
April 10 2011 23:32 GMT
#592
On April 11 2011 07:16 epik151 wrote:
"Quote from: Sawk on April 08, 2011, 11:10:49 pm
Hello,

Actually I didn't touched the archers at all. I've let the retail Hellbound stats that are gaven from the begining. The only class nerfed is the mage (with their low magic critical, just compare it to retail).
So far, the server is still in an early state, let's see what happens when the dynasty is here and especialy the dynasty jewels, I am pretty sure it will change the done (like always).

I remember thoses kind of topic from the old Renewal, and when the archer started to stuff up (with attributes dynasty and even icarus), everybody was crying about the archer beeing op criting for 4k on mages.

The most funny thing is that the complain comes from player who do not even have a SA on their draconic bow and so far aren't 81+. People started today to farm attribute stone (even if it's divine). I am sure it will mainly boost the fighters damages (and nerf a bit the poor necros damages).

I also checked the pvp vids, so far archers aren't doing bad if many clan uses mixed party (which is so far the best to win a pvp), and if you check it also take a look, you will see that archers aren't that bad even now in pvp with a group. Of course if you actualy hope to kill a dagger in 1v1 with an archer or a mage, I think you've chosen the wrong class (except if you are lucky with stun and crits)."


Can you sight a source please.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 23:44:24
April 10 2011 23:44 GMT
#593
On April 10, 2011, 12:30:04 pm Sawk wrote:
Hello,

I will just give my opinion about it

You guys complain about donation concerning level or nobless ?
Seriously, get back to facts, when you was playing on some "famous" server that I wont name, which had +16 bow and epic jewels in the donation list you wasn't complaining at all and now you complain for +0 stuff (not even +3) which everybody has by now ?

I hope you must be kidding when you check out all the high rate around and see +25 weapons available in donation list.

The donations are more than fair, we always used fair donation system, by fair I mean that everybody can easily achieve it without any particular luck (aka enchants).

The other point is that you said that you will have to work in order to get something in game while a donator doesn't. Do you think the guy who donated is getting the money from nowhere ?
He also worked for it, maybe not in game, but in real life, which is actually the same deal.

Now the fact is that every server need an income, as said up the DDOS protection isn't free, hopefully this protection is made by us and so is cheaper than buying it in a company. The fact is that guys, you had been able to play since day 1 without any trouble, except for today were we had some trouble with the latest updates and to make things clear, yes the server got DDOSed. But have you felt any lag ? did people got mass disconnected ? Did you ever notice it ?

The answer is NO (for sure) and that is what we are proud of, no matter the condition, we are able to provide you a server online and running.

Now if you complain about us caring about the server, trying to make updates, trying to find a way to provide a income in time to keep a top level gaming quality, with decent host, decent ping and decent protection what can I say ? We could go in those cheap hosting company for the server and host it in Hetzner for instance, that is where those randoms L2J server goes so they only pay 50€ per month.
But we are not that kind of server, we use the money for the server, for the proxies and for you guys.

I am actually more than shocked by the behavior and opinions of some people, I do understand that we do not think in the same way and do not have the same opinion but still ... seriously.



Source: http://forum.l2-renewal.net/index.php?topic=1141.45
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Grantler
Profile Joined August 2010
United States228 Posts
April 10 2011 23:50 GMT
#594
This server going to be popular? Played L2 for about three years, had a 74 PR and Prophet on Franz before it got banned >>

Considering giving it another go
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
April 10 2011 23:53 GMT
#595
On April 11 2011 08:50 Grantler wrote:
This server going to be popular? Played L2 for about three years, had a 74 PR and Prophet on Franz before it got banned >>

Considering giving it another go


We don't know yet but with whats been happening over the last couple day it seems that the server might not make it past the 1st month.
(the servers only been open since MLG)
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 00:15:27
April 11 2011 00:05 GMT
#596
On April 11 2011 07:16 epik151 wrote:
"Quote from: Sawk on April 08, 2011, 11:10:49 pm
Hello,

Actually I didn't touched the archers at all. I've let the retail Hellbound stats that are gaven from the begining. The only class nerfed is the mage (with their low magic critical, just compare it to retail).
So far, the server is still in an early state, let's see what happens when the dynasty is here and especialy the dynasty jewels, I am pretty sure it will change the done (like always).

I remember thoses kind of topic from the old Renewal, and when the archer started to stuff up (with attributes dynasty and even icarus), everybody was crying about the archer beeing op criting for 4k on mages.

The most funny thing is that the complain comes from player who do not even have a SA on their draconic bow and so far aren't 81+. People started today to farm attribute stone (even if it's divine). I am sure it will mainly boost the fighters damages (and nerf a bit the poor necros damages).

I also checked the pvp vids, so far archers aren't doing bad if many clan uses mixed party (which is so far the best to win a pvp), and if you check it also take a look, you will see that archers aren't that bad even now in pvp with a group. Of course if you actualy hope to kill a dagger in 1v1 with an archer or a mage, I think you've chosen the wrong class (except if you are lucky with stun and crits)."


This is total bull and so many people already know it. A level 28 mob landing a sleep on a lvl 82 S grade bishop will never happen in retail. Files are off

There is something wrong with the landrate of debuffs and thats something that people in the forum have actually tested.
epik151
Profile Joined February 2008
312 Posts
April 11 2011 02:37 GMT
#597
Hey guys so does anyone know about these icarus and dynasty items.

Is there a bow and does it have focus and is it so much better than I should not spend my SA fragments on the DB anymore and just wait and see?
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 08:55:40
April 11 2011 04:12 GMT
#598
On April 11 2011 11:37 epik151 wrote:
Hey guys so does anyone know about these icarus and dynasty items.

Is there a bow and does it have focus and is it so much better than I should not spend my SA fragments on the DB anymore and just wait and see?


Its pretty much S grade but better and yeah the bow has focus.

Was talking to a crip dude, apparently they are leaving. Reasoning being they played on previous Sawk servers and somehow this one is worse and they don't see it getting better.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 11 2011 19:18 GMT
#599
I'd probly care about crips leaving if they didn't try to shoot me in the face every time I ran past most of them..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
April 11 2011 23:52 GMT
#600
So did everyone just give up on the game? I login and there's like 3-4 people in the guild online at any given time. Its pretty unfortunate considering how many people are actually in the guild.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
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