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On April 10 2011 02:26 DrBoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 21:49 relic wrote: Was a good idea, but unfortunately the server is ruined.
You can now donate for full level 85 + gear, dont even have to level up anymore.
I'd like to carry on playing with you guys, but I think we need to look at other, longer term options. Woah woah wait... you can now donate and get 85+ gear >,> wow... Also I'm not able to get into the game for some reason when I try and login my game just freezes.
You need to update your client
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I am gunna stand up and point out that for the most part the people I've met in the clan are helpful if not a tad silly and vague and in general I've had an excellent time. I'd also like to think I tended to answer and help as best I can but then again I am not entirely sure on alot of things so I don't always respond.
*shrug* Not for everyone.
Not sure how I feel about the new donate bs.
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On April 10 2011 03:07 Parnage wrote: I am gunna stand up and point out that for the most part the people I've met in the clan are helpful if not a tad silly and vague and in general I've had an excellent time. I'd also like to think I tended to answer and help as best I can but then again I am not entirely sure on alot of things so I don't always respond.
*shrug* Not for everyone.
Not sure how I feel about the new donate bs.
Oh don't get me wrong, some really nice people in the clan, and most are helpful / willing to do things!
It's just incredibly frustrating to say the least, when you're trying to do the sub quest, which you can't do due to 2/3 people constantly pk'ing and there is 8 people online who didn't once respond to me asking for a little help (apart from r3, who was a 61 sps).
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On April 10 2011 01:53 relic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 23:32 HornyHerring wrote: It's only levels and +0 s grades. It's not liek you can donate for dynasty and overenchanted gear or boss jewels. Don't quit already. Come to baium today, gonna see if you can put up a fight, coz untill now we've been steamrolling everything. It's not yet, that's the worry. Either way, I left the clan, there is a group of people in the clan who only talk to others when they want to, don't help with levelling others, and certainly don't help with PvP. I don't particularly care about the XP, but I find it said to see people looking for parties when they are tanks, healers or whatever, and they don't respond. I do care when I ask for help with PvP (after all this game is pvp centric, as well as this server) and I get 0 response. Oh and getting told by a clan member than I would have to pay them 70m adena to get a summon to toi 8, and if I didn't pay i'd be killed by more than 1 of the TL members, was also pretty funny! Good luck anyway.
I believe it was already announced way before the server launched that this would be implemented. And really getting your S-grade stuff up from B or A grade is like what a week or two of farming at most? It's not like ppl are getting +25 weps and stuff like that. It's just all +0 armor weps jewels.
I dunno about ppl summoning/killing you at TOI, but as for ppl partying I haven't really seen a dearth of it...Just yesterday Warbler was helping level my dark avenger which does miserable damage. Usually people in the same area will already be partied and be more than willing to invite. Alternatively you can just start your own.
As for pvp, everyone is trying to farm up their s grade and I think it's just more effective to go somewhere else to farm. Having tons of people going to one place just to kill a few people isn't really efficient i don't think? There are always little groups of 2 or 3 people that try to run through areas in L2 and steamroll people. If clans were to kill every single one of these people, no one would ever get any farming done.
Just my 2Cents
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On April 10 2011 03:31 sharakorr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 01:53 relic wrote:On April 09 2011 23:32 HornyHerring wrote: It's only levels and +0 s grades. It's not liek you can donate for dynasty and overenchanted gear or boss jewels. Don't quit already. Come to baium today, gonna see if you can put up a fight, coz untill now we've been steamrolling everything. It's not yet, that's the worry. Either way, I left the clan, there is a group of people in the clan who only talk to others when they want to, don't help with levelling others, and certainly don't help with PvP. I don't particularly care about the XP, but I find it said to see people looking for parties when they are tanks, healers or whatever, and they don't respond. I do care when I ask for help with PvP (after all this game is pvp centric, as well as this server) and I get 0 response. Oh and getting told by a clan member than I would have to pay them 70m adena to get a summon to toi 8, and if I didn't pay i'd be killed by more than 1 of the TL members, was also pretty funny! Good luck anyway. I believe it was already announced way before the server launched that this would be implemented. And really getting your S-grade stuff up from B or A grade is like what a week or two of farming at most? It's not like ppl are getting +25 weps and stuff like that. It's just all +0 armor weps jewels. I dunno about ppl summoning/killing you at TOI, but as for ppl partying I haven't really seen a dearth of it...Just yesterday Warbler was helping level my dark avenger which does miserable damage. Usually people in the same area will already be partied and be more than willing to invite. Alternatively you can just start your own. As for pvp, everyone is trying to farm up their s grade and I think it's just more effective to go somewhere else to farm. Having tons of people going to one place just to kill a few people isn't really efficient i don't think? There are always little groups of 2 or 3 people that try to run through areas in L2 and steamroll people. If clans were to kill every single one of these people, no one would ever get any farming done. Just my 2Cents
As I mentioned, I wasn't farming for anything but my sub class. The area where the mobs are, I was getting PK'd / killed. I asked for a bit of help, not for a full party, just one person could of helped and that was it. It wasn't just that one thing though, there's been many other points where I or other people have asked for some help PvP wise, and had little response.
I've spent enough time playing L2 on retail farming and xp'ing, the point of this server was for me especially to PvP. I can see people want to get top level, want to get the gear and so on, I guess i've just done that so many times already that it's a bit tiresome.
As a whole there are some great people, and helpful ones too, but as I probably mentioned, there are a few who don't seem to want to get involved.
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These donations really take the fun out of it for me atleast, was just running around killing stuff but meh im not gonna bother anymore
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we could act more like a clan sometimes but we have had some great groups & pvp.
the grind for some of the chars is rough. hopefully we stick through it and get endgame pvp going.
just don't be afraid to speak up in clan chat as much as you need to get help
as for donations.
thats pretty lame
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The new donations list is a big disheartening but I don't know anything about the guys who are running this server and if they have a history of just making some quick cash and bolting.
I just saw this thread and thought it must be a pretty good server since so many TL peeps were down with playing on it.
I'm still hoping he changes his mind and takes them away or increases the prices, I don't know. And hopefully there are no further donations for icarus and the like.
Anyways, Tastosis will still mainly be in Giran to AIO, sometimes it's in Goddard. If you want buffs or nob just run up and type aio or nob. Don't just stand there waiting. Also, don't automatically trade or invite when it's busy that causes all sorts of problems because whenever someone does that it stops the buffing and I have to move and restart everything and it resets the timers to when I can trade someone who's turn it actually is.
$20 for SA Crystals is damn cheap considering how long it takes to get 1,000 SA crystal fragments. Lame
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So this server is starting to become real shitty I've noticed and I'm wondering if anyone else feels the same.
The grind is insane for a high rate server, which lead people to bot just like retail. 1000 SA frags for a stupid SA is silly and it might be literally quicker to do the quest like retail to get it over this stupid system. The custom zones, which is suppose to be high reward in return for danger of pvp, is placed in the worst dungeon possible and no one fights because they don't want to drop gear that took forever to grind.
Not to mention despite claiming to use L2off files, lot of people are noticing that stats are off on forums and its mostly being ignored. Archer damage is not like retail at all. As a bishop in A grade I have level 82 archers hitting me for 800 fully buffed and critting for 1.5kish. Mage's land rate for debuffs is stupidly high and not like official at all. You can get slept by a lvl 28 mob while being lvl 80. So most likely either Mental Shield isnt working or level based resistances is bugged.
At first, Sawks didn't allow donation for gear so I thought he was just horrifically bad at designing a server. But now that he started allowing donation for gear/level/SA its pretty apparent what he's trying to do. Donation for gear isn't a big deal if people can get geared through playing a reasonable amount but this server doesn't really allow that.
After talking to a old lineage buddy of mine, he was telling me this is Sawk's 6th or 7th server and he pulled this shit before. Release a "high rate" server with an insane grind and then just add donation for gear/ignore all bots/ignore all suggestions. The friend told me the last server died because someone found a weakness in his donation security and apparently flooded the server in +16 SA'd S grade weapons.
I dunno, I guess if a lot of people feel this way we can try moving servers or something. But at this rate ill stick around a bit longer to pvp at bit and then probably quit. Honestly, I don't see this server lasting too long.
Edit: Christ look at this shit lol
Sawk'ed Pack : 150€ Aio Character Main Lvl 85 1 Subclass lvl 80 Subclass Status Noblesse Status S Grade Set Jewels, Weapon, Armor +0 With SA 500 kk Adena 10 kk AA 2 Hat
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its funny, because this 500kk Adena, 10 kk AA, i've gotten in about an hour. If people want to donate for that, be my guest.
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i'm having difficulty logging in.. l2 client just keeps crashing in the login menu. Anyone else having the same problem?
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yep. there's a thead on the server's website as well. it's all screwed up.
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I am starting to be weary of the problems as well and yeah the a and aa doesn't bother me so much as the whole SA items and the whole lack of concern about things.
I am going to start doing some research on this duder and I'd love to know more because quite frankly Iam not going to waste my time further if this guy is just going to rake in cash and plunder a community to let it rot instead of just you know building a community.
That and the whole "I'am a mage excuse me as I 3 shot you" is kinda..vexing.
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You cant log in cuz the Login server is down. P-servers get alot of random bots and shit trying to log trough their server, eventually it just crashes and needs to be restarted manually.
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Also could be a problem you have not updated yet as I had the issue this morning and I had to run the updater.
Actually I can't log in either now. heh.
So after some hunting and a couple dozen pages of various google searches. Sawk is yes a guy with a past and knows how to run a server however he seems to have gone threw setting up quite a few servers that tend to be bugged or not as well functioning and the previous versions also offered fair donation rewards and they don't tend to last. Mind you all of this information is from forums and who knows who's stretching the truth and what's actual fact.
I am not entirely sure how I feel about this now. I don't think he's being a bad guy but I do feel like I am not getting a full story and I am willing to keep on trucking if only to see what happens. Pending I don't rage quit and kill the first mage I see in the street due to a random 5k+ hit.
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Get rich quick scheme it appears. Server will eventually die from some kind of problem, for a new one to get hyped and open up again.
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well I think we should continue to keep playing and see how it goes there's really very little downside to it in my opinion. You get a fun experience out of it playing with fellow members of this awesome forum. Even if the server does eventually fall apart what have you really lost? hell you might get some friends out of it to play starcraft BW or 2 with later.
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Yeah login is still down.
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