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Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
June 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#481
Vettel finally showing he isnt a driving machine and is really a human who makes serious errors?

Hope this is a sign of things to come.

I much rather have a close drivers championship (Hamiltons comes to mind), then total dominance from one driver.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 12 2011 21:19 GMT
#482
On June 13 2011 06:13 Vernom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:11 Lachrymose wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:07 Aristodemus wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:05 Vernom wrote:
Button will be punished anyways.

For the Hamilton incident? He was at fault I thought but it was just a racing incident, get over it. If you are saying that about Alonso then he served a drive-through penalty.


Okay, understeering and driving into somebody as a racing incident is one thing, but pushing somebody into a wall? seriously?

Button's drive through was for speeding behind the safety car, not the collision with Alonso.


Don't discuss, everything done by Hamilton or Button is a racing incident.

Maybe I am old fashioned but I just think you need to get on with it. Sutil shouldnt have been punished in my eyes. Di Resta maybe was deserved his but if I was a steward I wouldnt have given it him. They dont make contact on purpose and he broke his front wing which is punishment enough. In fact the only one I didnt like was Schumacher moving and pushing off Hamilton in the breaking zone, but I wont complain.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
June 12 2011 21:23 GMT
#483
That Mercedes is such a crappy car
Marauder Die Die
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
June 12 2011 21:23 GMT
#484
On June 13 2011 06:19 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:13 Vernom wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:11 Lachrymose wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:07 Aristodemus wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:05 Vernom wrote:
Button will be punished anyways.

For the Hamilton incident? He was at fault I thought but it was just a racing incident, get over it. If you are saying that about Alonso then he served a drive-through penalty.


Okay, understeering and driving into somebody as a racing incident is one thing, but pushing somebody into a wall? seriously?

Button's drive through was for speeding behind the safety car, not the collision with Alonso.


Don't discuss, everything done by Hamilton or Button is a racing incident.

In fact the only one I didnt like was Schumacher moving and pushing off Hamilton in the breaking zone, but I wont complain.


Well at least you don't deny your blatant bias towards Hamilton.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
June 12 2011 21:25 GMT
#485
What a race !
Whats the altitude?
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
June 12 2011 21:26 GMT
#486
Yeah it was an amazing race, epic by Button, 6 stops and from 21st to 1st!
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
June 12 2011 21:28 GMT
#487
On June 13 2011 06:07 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:05 Vernom wrote:
Button will be punished anyways.

For the Hamilton incident? He was at fault I thought but it was just a racing incident, get over it. If you are saying that about Alonso then he served a drive-through penalty.


Wonder why the Stewards didn't catch his purple fastest sector times under the safety car .... If he will be penalized, then he should be for this. But I really, really do hope that he gets to keep his victory, fantastic drive.
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 12 2011 21:29 GMT
#488
On June 13 2011 06:23 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 06:19 Aristodemus wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:13 Vernom wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:11 Lachrymose wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:07 Aristodemus wrote:
On June 13 2011 06:05 Vernom wrote:
Button will be punished anyways.

For the Hamilton incident? He was at fault I thought but it was just a racing incident, get over it. If you are saying that about Alonso then he served a drive-through penalty.


Okay, understeering and driving into somebody as a racing incident is one thing, but pushing somebody into a wall? seriously?

Button's drive through was for speeding behind the safety car, not the collision with Alonso.


Don't discuss, everything done by Hamilton or Button is a racing incident.

In fact the only one I didnt like was Schumacher moving and pushing off Hamilton in the breaking zone, but I wont complain.


Well at least you don't deny your blatant bias towards Hamilton.

I dont deny I am a Hamilton fan. Webber agreed with me about the first incident who has the most reason to be biased. Lewis and Jenson both agreed about their incident. Its pretty clear you cannot move in the breaking zone, so my bias lies to my eyes I guess because that is what I saw.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
June 12 2011 21:33 GMT
#489
cracking race, Button had the drive of his career... shame about Lewis I really thought this was his to loose and he is probaly the best wet driver out there.... was one of those things Lewis being Lewis he pushed like mad into everything and is always fully commited, very sena-esk...

...but yeah Vettel is walking away with the championship, I don't think anyone can stop him now.... which is a shame
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
June 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#490
Unbelievable race, sad for Ferrari though. Tough luck for them they had a great drive this weekend leading up to the race.

Great job by Button. I wonder if he would have caught Vettel if Vettel hadn't went off.
Fantasy is a beast
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
June 12 2011 21:39 GMT
#491
Webber didn't deserve 3 MSC did.
Everything else: amazing race
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 21:45:21
June 12 2011 21:41 GMT
#492
On June 13 2011 06:39 fanta[Rn] wrote:
Webber didn't deserve 3 MSC did.
Everything else: amazing race


>the benefit of having the fastest car on the track...

I'd argue that Vettel dsn't deserve to be the championship leader or to have it pretty much in the bag... but thats a diffrent discussion all together
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 12 2011 21:53 GMT
#493
Managed to watch whole race, maybe becouse its been good 2 months since i've watched F1 live.
But the wait was worth it, crazy stuff happening left and right after the rain break(lol).
So wanted MSC to get 3rd and see him on podium once again, oh well, maybe next time.

On June 13 2011 06:38 Housemd wrote:
I wonder if he would have caught Vettel if Vettel hadn't went off.


Nah, he wouldn't, i was already making jokes of Mclaren crew for celebrating when he was catching up Vettel, like he was already in front of him.And then, boom, Vettel's out haha.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 12 2011 22:29 GMT
#494
We want to see racing.
Now THAT was racing.
I hope that the stewards don't go and ruin it all.
Hamilton drove stupidly and paid for it, should've been more patient.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
June 12 2011 22:48 GMT
#495
On June 13 2011 07:29 Klive5ive wrote:
Hamilton drove stupidly and paid for it, should've been more patient.


I think thats a little much, Lewis has always been a driver where he races on the edge 100% of the time, you give him a gap and he will go, he has a better run on a driver and he will go... it's what won him the Chinese GP and its what won him his championship in 08.

He just got unlucky that Jenson didn't see him... though I think it would have been a joke if they had penlised him for touching Mark... Mark left him so much room on the entry he knew he was going to be coming through but didn't leave enough space on the exit of the corner and due to the conditions they touched... was a racing insident just like Alonso/Button... neither require the stuards envolvment.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#496
Beautiful race. Absolutely brilliant last minute drive by Jenson Button. Michael Schumacher was if you ask me the better driver against Webber and probably against Button, but the Mercedes just isn't good enough to withstand another car pushing it with DRS.

With a better car MSC still got the potential to be world champion.. he's so good in driving. First time I saw Vettel doing a crucial mistake, don't think that would have happened to MSC, but anyways I won't complain sincei t was a really good race.

Hamilton really.. had a bad day once again being too agressive and blaming nothing but the conditions when he should blame himself a lot more.
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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 23:54:16
June 12 2011 23:47 GMT
#497
Webber did two crucial mistakes in consecutive laps against MSC and still took him :/ really undeserved 3rd place. Other that I think it's good that Button wasn't penalized after the race, he deserved the win.

Sucks for Vettel, leading a race for 69/70 laps and then making one crucial mistake to lose the race. But oh well
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 00:23:06
June 13 2011 00:22 GMT
#498
I thought it was a great race despite the red flag. To me it didn't seem as if Vettel fell apart due to the pressure; it's more like he was pushing so hard because he knew Button was closing fast. All throughout the last two laps you could see just how hard Vettel was pushing and how close to wrecking he was on almost every single corner. I think Button would have passed Vettel either way on the DRS zone, and Vettel knew this and thus why he was pushing so hard. It's too bad MSC couldn't have gotten a podium, if they could have stayed on intermediates then I think he could have gotten it for sure.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 13 2011 00:45 GMT
#499
God, had to wait long enough but that was a glorious race.
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
June 13 2011 00:50 GMT
#500
Damn, Schumacher still has it in him and he's still the god of rain apparently =). If they can make that car competitive for next season I see him as a strong contender for the title again.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
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