EPT2011 NFL Offseason/NFL Draft - Page 43
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
On August 17 2011 01:34 slyboogie wrote: Yeah, Roddy White and Andre Johnson went really high, so I guess Fitz is okay there. I definitely would have grabbed Megatron before him but that's probably a toss-up. I also must hurt that McFadden and Ryan Matthews went just a few picks ahead of Felix Jones, haha. Eh, Fitz had 90 catches last year with a scrub rotation of QBs. I think Kolb will be good, but even if he's average at best, that's an imporvement over last year's QB situation and I think it will bode well for him. Megatron is a beast too, but I think Fitz is more reliable. I'd be happy with megatron there too though. If I didn't think I could land one of McFadden/F jones in the third, I'd probably have gone Gore/Jackson over Fitz/Mega there. Personally, I think Felix Jones is in a better spot than Run DMC and definitely Matthews. Matthews is in a clear timeshare with Tolbert and didn't do a whole lot last year. Felix is bumped to the top of the depth chart and was a beast running and catching last year. He's got what, Choice competing with him? I'll take that over McFadden playing on a meh raiders team and losing some carries to Michael Bush. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14900 Posts
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Ahmose
United States21 Posts
And my only complaint with this weekends past games were that Drew Brees looked 'meh', I don't think he took it too serious. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
On August 17 2011 01:51 KOFgokuon wrote: bleh you can't expect anythign from frank gore except 4-5 missed games a year True he gets injured a lot. But the beauty of it this year is that everyone expects that, even moreso than past years because he actually missed a significant part of the season. He's 1st round talent who is going in the late 2nd in a lot of leagues after the elite RB/QB/WR start going. Depending on scoring and how you want to draft, he's a steal in the 2nd, even if he misses 2-4 games because he puts up elite averages (75 or 80 rush/game and 40yd rec/game iirc last year) I dunno, if I see him on when i'm in the 2nd in my leagues, it's an autodraft for me. I don't think it's really homer bias that is clouding that for me =] | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Dude, Gore has been very consistent. Look at his Games started. All running backs miss games - it's like saying pro gamers get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Yes, he missed tons of time last season but he's a tailback in the NFL. @Hawk You must not love McFadden as much as I do. But when both Felix and McFadden were at Arkansas and I remember being much more impressed by RunDMC; their pro careers have both been sorta whatevers - productive but not All Pro. I expect buku yards for McFadden this year though. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
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QuanticHawk
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Cutler (7) A. Johnson (1) M. Wallace (3) S. Holmes (5) S. Jackson (2) F. Jones (4) K. Winslow (6) D. Akers Oakland B. Jacobs (8) L. Moore (9) L. Tomlinson (10) T. Jones (11) M. Sanchez (12) L. Murphy (13) I think I did really damn good, though a large part of it is hoping that and Cutler pans out. I was gonna wait til five for him, but that was the long wait for me and a lot of people still needed #2s. Most teams bit on early QB rushes so they ended up with one good QB and RB/WR and lesser guys after that. I feel I've got at least four legit studs, with a few guys who could potentially have who could be great as well. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 17 2011 03:09 Hawk wrote: Nah I think skillwise RunDMC is the real deal. I just think Michael Bush, provided he comes back (still in a hold out I think or something) is good enough to earn himself 100 or so carries a season. I can't see McFadden getting more that 250 carries unless Bush gets hurt. Felix Jones has to contend with Choice and that's it really, unless their 4th rounder or whatever works in. Granted, he could end up in a split of sorts as well, but I just think he doesn't have to contend with a quality backup for carries Dont sleep on Felix Jones this year. Wade Phillips has him put on weight to become more durable (and more of an every down back [which he isnt imo]) and it seemed to kill his explosiveness and top end speed. Obviously I am not the only one to think this as Jones has cut weight this year and appears to have that burst back. He will still split carries with Choice, but this will be a breakout year again for Jones imo. On a keeper league note, keep an eye on Demarco Murray from Oklahoma that the Cowboys drafted. The kid has fucking wheels and tied Adrian Peterson's freshman rookie record for TDs (also holds a number of records at Oklahoma [a run heavy school to say the least]). At times in college he legit looked like AP 2.0. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 19 2011 11:52 Hawk wrote: Yeah I drafted Jones in the one draft I did for my brother, and in several mocks. I think he beats out Choice easily for at least 70% of the carries. Jerry loves him some razorback players Its not that Jones (and Garrett) love the Razorbacks, its that Jones (and Garrett) love that ungodly speed and elusiveness that he showed his rookie year. He is back down to roughly the same weight again as rookie year. I also think he will get a majority of carries as well, I am not sure if it will be 70% but even at say 60(65)% he should put up good numbers. | ||
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Disciple7
United States198 Posts
http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/tools/draftrecap?leagueId=524138 Not sure if you guys can actually see that. If not, I'll post a screenshot if you guys are actually interested =P. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 19 2011 12:16 Disciple7 wrote: Here's the draft recap link for one of the TL drafts. I'm team solid, the percy harvin pick was a panic pick, should have taken boldin -_- (unless lee evans has the type of season he is capable of having). Otherwise I'm very happy with the draft, roy williams was a reach though also, and steve williams questionable. http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/tools/draftrecap?leagueId=524138 Not sure if you guys can actually see that. If not, I'll post a screenshot if you guys are actually interested =P. You went #1 on AP!!! Haven't you heard the hype? Vick wins leagues son!!! LOL! As for specific legit issues (imo): -I am not sold on McFadden, prob woulda taken Hillis myself. -You could have gotten Manning in R3.... I would have taken that in a heart beat. -Harvin was a reach. -Finley was a reach imo, although you appear to have started a TE bidding war which makes its much less bad of a pick. -I am never sold on drafting a D/ST before the LATE rounds. -Drafted a kicker in round 13/16. Wut? -Drafted a backup D. Not good, take a shot at some WR/RB -Drafted a backup TE. Not good, take a shot at some WR/RB. This is all imo, obviously. | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3820 Posts
I'm glad that they show this now so they get a chance to fix whatever the problems are on offense. Defensively I'm sure the group just needs more time to gel and we missed both our run stopping DTs but... this was a shockingly poor defensive performance. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 19 2011 13:33 ShloobeR wrote: Wow eagles looked awful tonight. I'm glad that they show this now so they get a chance to fix whatever the problems are on offense. Defensively I'm sure the group just needs more time to gel and we missed both our run stopping DTs but... this was a shockingly poor defensive performance. No Philly just sucks.... (at least that is what I am hoping for somehow). Feel free to take a year or 2 to "gel" though. Edit - I actually just saw the highlights on ESPN. Dear god, Vick delivered a DAMN GOOD shot (this is for a QB) after throwing a pick. Mad props (from me) at getting angry during the preseason when no one else besides the 6th stringers who get cut 2 days later seem to care about it. (I still hope Philly takes 2 years to gel) | ||
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Disciple7
United States198 Posts
On August 19 2011 13:27 BloodNinja wrote: You went #1 on AP!!! Haven't you heard the hype? Vick wins leagues son!!! LOL! As for specific legit issues (imo): -I am not sold on McFadden, prob woulda taken Hillis myself. -You could have gotten Manning in R3.... I would have taken that in a heart beat. -Harvin was a reach. -Finley was a reach imo, although you appear to have started a TE bidding war which makes its much less bad of a pick. -I am never sold on drafting a D/ST before the LATE rounds. -Drafted a kicker in round 13/16. Wut? -Drafted a backup D. Not good, take a shot at some WR/RB -Drafted a backup TE. Not good, take a shot at some WR/RB. This is all imo, obviously. I debated Hillis/DMC in my head during the pick. I just felt that Hillis is a less prototypical runningback type, which scares me a little. Plus he's got the Madden Cover Curse =P. Also, as evidenced by my Hardesty pick, I believe he has some competition in the backfield if Hardesty stays healthy. To me, with a decent QB, Fitz>>>the rest of the receivers, while Peyton is just >MattRyan. The Finley pick was me filling out my starting roster first. It's a philosophy of mine. Also, I saw Clark go, which signaled to me that TE's weren't going to be around too long. The D/ST was again due to my philosophy, although it was too early now that I look at it. Especially because I got a ~= D/St much later as well. If I could go back and redo this pick, I think I would have taken Ryan Williams. Kicker pick, I really don't have any reasoning for o_o. I forget why I took him there. Was between him and Crosby though. Although now that I look again, I don't see anyone picked other than Lee Evans or Mike Williams (Seattle) that I would really want to take a shot on. Patriots D was too good to pass up D=. I like to play matchups as well. Rams fan. Lol. Last pick of the draft, it didn't matter to me since I can get anyone who was left anyway. Kendricks' preseason/camp = <3 I don't know though, I may be totally wrong. I usually play in a league with ~26 picks, so I get my sleepers in the later rounds after filling out my starters and atleast 1 backup each. My philosophies may not apply. Also *Steve Johnson for my last post. Btw weren't you going to be in this league? I saw you post on the thread, so I assumed you were in there. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
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DusTerr
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QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
seriously, fuck this league if that's a goddamn penalty. There was another similar hit the other day that drew a flag + fine too I believe... what a fucking joke. What's the point of having a safety over top if you can't hammer the guy that was left out to dry by his dumb QB. I can see protecting WRs when they get hit really late in similar situations, but there was fractions of a second difference between the missed catch and him getting smoked. And it wasn't even helmet to helmet! | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 23 2011 01:17 Hawk wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Broncos-rookie-safety-Rahim-Moore-defends-devast;_ylt=ApaQAkFNNq3r_ci2wpgJFDbTrYZ4?urn=nfl-wp5513#comments seriously, fuck this league if that's a goddamn penalty. There was another similar hit the other day that drew a flag + fine too I believe... what a fucking joke. What's the point of having a safety over top if you can't hammer the guy that was left out to dry by his dumb QB. I can see protecting WRs when they get hit really late in similar situations, but there was fractions of a second difference between the missed catch and him getting smoked. And it wasn't even helmet to helmet! Don't worry, in 5 years it will be the NFFL (National Flag Football League). Then we won't have to worry about these silly fines or late hits ever again. Can any Broncos fans tell me what is up with Tebow? All I heard over the weekend was that he is looking aboslutley terrible and is easily the worst QB on the roster at this point. I heard someone on ESPN breakdown some of Tebow issues this offseason: Different release points when throwing to different parts of the field, terrible accuracy, staring down recievers as much as Jamarcus Russel. I personally didn't think Tebow would cut it as an NFL QB, but he had so much hype leading into this season it felt like. | ||
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