EPTEvery year...the Detroit Lions are OP in the preseason...Then the NFL over-nerfs the Lions by starting the season and all hell breaks loose...
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
Every year...the Detroit Lions are OP in the preseason...Then the NFL over-nerfs the Lions by starting the season and all hell breaks loose... | ||
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HyukeN
United States85 Posts
On August 11 2011 14:15 DannyJ wrote: Yeah funny how the pack is getting zero attention or hype. It's like the Eagles won teh SB last year. Kinda funny how the bullseye is on a team that didnt get passed the first round of the playoffs. Imagine if the packers had gotten a great RB and elite TE during the free agency. That's essentially what they did since Grant and Finley are coming back. Isn't almost their entire team from last year coming back healthy as well? I usually don't buy into teams repeating in the NFL, but i wouldnt be surprised at all if the Pack can do it this year. I remember an announcer saying Ryan Grant was just an average running back, nothing special. I tend to agree with that. I see him more as a product of circumstance. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On August 13 2011 08:55 EliteAzn wrote: I have concluded this after listening to my Detroit Lions for a couple of minutes... Every year...the Detroit Lions are OP in the preseason...Then the NFL over-nerfs the Lions by starting the season and all hell breaks loose... When they went 4-0 in preseason and 0-16 a friend of mine in college got a shirt that said "Lions preseason champs" on it. lol | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 13 2011 09:14 HyukeN wrote: I remember an announcer saying Ryan Grant was just an average running back, nothing special. I tend to agree with that. I see him more as a product of circumstance. Tons of RBs are a product of circumstance. Having 2 straight 1200 yard seasons before getting hurt is better than just "average" though. He's definitely great compared to the crap RBs GB had last year. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 13 2011 12:45 DannyJ wrote: Tons of RBs are a product of circumstance. Having 2 straight 1200 yard seasons before getting hurt is better than just "average" though. He's definitely great compared to the crap RBs GB had last year. Tons but not all. Now lets all think happy thoughts and watch clips of Barry Sanders. Who in my opinion was one of the few players who simply saw the game at a completely different level. A game changer who cannot be replicated. Now lets all revel in awe: | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On August 13 2011 08:55 EliteAzn wrote: I have concluded this after listening to my Detroit Lions for a couple of minutes... Every year...the Detroit Lions are OP in the preseason...Then the NFL over-nerfs the Lions by starting the season and all hell breaks loose... It's probably because there's no pressure. If you ever watch the Lions play, they're competitive in every game, then they fall apart in the foruth quarter/second half. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 13 2011 15:49 Ferrose wrote: BloodNinja you're making me sad. Every time the Lions get a good RB, he retires (like Barry), suddenly sucks for no reason, or gets injured (like Mikel LeShoure) qq It's probably because there's no pressure. If you ever watch the Lions play, they're competitive in every game, then they fall apart in the foruth quarter/second half. Im sorry! As a VT grad I wished you the the best with Kevin Jones though it never worked out. Edit - That all being said ( IE me being a die-hard Dallas fan) I have zero issues with Sanders ranked as #1 over Smith. The man was that amazing and everyone lost out when he decided to leave the game. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 13 2011 13:45 BloodNinja wrote: Tons but not all. Now lets all think happy thoughts and watch clips of Barry Sanders. Who in my opinion was one of the few players who simply saw the game at a completely different level. A game changer who cannot be replicated. Now lets all revel in awe:+ Show Spoiler + Imagine if Barry Sanders had actually played behind a legit offensive line..... All of Sander's plays during most games were like 2,0,1,-3,2 then he'd bust a long TD because he was that good. What if he was getting 5+ yards per clip + busting long TDs. As it stands, he averaged 5.0 yards per carry... I have no doubt with a good offensive line it could've been more than 6+ which would be insane since the super bowl era began. --------------- Regardless, after the Skins/Steelers game last night I came away fairly impressed by our execution most of all. Only 2 penalties on our side all game which was impressive. Execution of ZBS and pass protection were all pretty good. Dline actually got some pressure and stops. Won't try to read into it too much since it's all vanilla, but it's looking like we are at least somewhat better than our 6-10 finish last year. Can't see how we are one of the worst teams in the NFL on most power rankings, lol. But stranger things have happened. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
I think most of us grew up before the days of Dickerson, Payton, Sayers, OJ, Campbell, and Jim Brown so it's hard to compare Barry to them (at least for us). Also I think it's hard to compare RBs from different eras... the game has evolved so much, you can't really predict how certain players would do in todays game and vice versa. Everyone who's old enough I've talked to says Jim Brown was the best RB ever though. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Anyway, looking forward to some more preseason this week.... MNF preseason tomorrow, haha. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
Fascists. | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 16 2011 06:25 DannyJ wrote: I like how their "football is back" commercial ends in a kick off return. Too bad they changed the rules now every kick will be a touchback. Fascists. I enjoyed reading about Chicago not following the rules for a half and no one noticing. Took a call from the league office at half-time to put a stop to it. The response by Lovie Smith to the press was pretty good. Pretty much said putting the ball at the 35 was an auto touch-back and he wanted to see his kickoff coverage in an actual coverage scenario. Also on the conspiracy theory front, the claim is the new kickoff rule was put in as a money grab. More touchbacks means more commercials means larger TV contracts. Even if it hurts the game. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32105 Posts
also, the niners are looking at Daunte Culpepper, who had more ints than TDs in the UFL, and hasn't played in the NFL since 2009 Why do I root for this team?? anywhoHere's my brother draft. It was a live, I had to help him by the phone and then he ended up leaving early :psyduck: 16 Team QB/WR2/RB2/TE/K/D Scoring is real odd. .5 ppr though. Completions .1 Receptions .5 Passing Yards 50 yards per point; 2 points at 300 yards; 4 points at 400 yards; 6 points at 500 yards 25 yards per point; 2 points at 300 yards; 4 points at 400 yards; 6 points at 500 yards Passing Touchdowns 6 Interceptions -2 Rushing Yards 25 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 3 points at 150 yards; 4 points at 200 yards 10 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 3 points at 150 yards; 4 points at 200 yards Rushing Touchdowns 6 Reception Yards 20 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 150 yards; 5 points at 200 yards 10 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 150 yards; 5 points at 200 yards Reception Touchdowns 6 Return Yards 50 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 200 yards Kyle Orton Larry Fitzgerald Steve Smith LeSean McCoy Felix Jones Zach Miller Rob Bironas Atlanta D Fred Jackson Rob Gronkowski Lance Moore Ben Tate Emmanuel Sanders Colt McCoy I wanted Biller Miller (NO TE) and he got Zack Miller instead. Besides that, I think it looks good, especially compared to others. We waited til the 4th for a QB because everyone went QB/RB in the first and he was pick 11. We went Mccoy, Fitz, Jones, Orton. One odd thing, and this should be important for all leagues, is that Chris Johnson dropped in this and mocks I did on my own. He was still available at 11 when we were up (he went with the next pick) | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d8217dc97/Rex-Ryan-flips Rex captures the emotions of every Jets fan here so well. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On August 16 2011 09:20 BloodNinja wrote: I enjoyed reading about Chicago not following the rules for a half and no one noticing. Took a call from the league office at half-time to put a stop to it. The response by Lovie Smith to the press was pretty good. Pretty much said putting the ball at the 35 was an auto touch-back and he wanted to see his kickoff coverage in an actual coverage scenario. Also on the conspiracy theory front, the claim is the new kickoff rule was put in as a money grab. More touchbacks means more commercials means larger TV contracts. Even if it hurts the game. Clearly the solution is to intentionally get penalized for excessive celebration on every score. Then the ball is moved back 5 yards, exactly where Chicago wants it to be. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32105 Posts
On August 16 2011 13:15 slyboogie wrote: That's actually not bad for a 16 team league. McCoy is good in PPR - he made it to pick 11?!? That's nutso wacko. Yeah. I convinced my brother to not be a moron and draft a qb in the first two rounds because all the elite ones were gone by the end of the 1st. I think like 6 QB went before pick 11 haha. Everyone in that league is pretty dumb and overvalues 6td passing. For fun, here's the first three rounds. Snake draft, our picks are * 1. Adrian Peterson (Min - RB) 2. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) 3. Michael Vick (Phi - QB) 4. Tom Brady (NE - QB) 5. Drew Brees (NO - QB) 6. Philip Rivers (SD - QB) 7. Arian Foster (Hou - RB) 8. Peyton Manning (Ind - QB) 9. Ray Rice (Bal - RB) 10. Matt Ryan (Atl - QB) 11. LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) * 12. Roddy White (Atl - WR) 13. Chris Johnson (Ten - RB) 14. Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) 15. Andre Johnson (Hou - WR) 16. Matt Schaub (Hou - QB) Round 2 1. Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB) 2. Michael Turner (Atl - RB) 3. Rashard Mendenhall (Pit - RB) 4. Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 5. Tony Romo (Dal - QB) 6. Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR) * 7. Calvin Johnson (Det - WR) 8. Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB) 9. Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR) 10. Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) 11. Steven Jackson (StL - RB) 12. Matt Forte (Chi - RB) 13. Frank Gore (SF - RB) 14. Greg Jennings (GB - WR) 15. Vincent Jackson (SD - WR) 16. Josh Freeman (TB - QB) Round 3 1. Mike Wallace (Pit - WR) 2. Peyton Hillis (Cle - RB) 3. DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR) 4. Dez Bryant (Dal - WR) 5. Antonio Gates (SD - TE) 6. Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR) 7. Darren McFadden (Oak - RB) 8. Jahvid Best (Det - RB) 9. Brandon Lloyd (Den - WR) 10. Ryan Mathews (SD - RB) 11. Felix Jones (Dal - RB) * 12. Marques Colston (NO - WR) 13. Miles Austin (Dal - WR) 14. Eli Manning (NYG - QB) 15. Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB) 16. Wes Welker (NE - WR) Some major LOL picks there. Ryan in the first, Sanchez, flacco and freeman in the 2nd. Ryan Matthews and Gates in the 3rd. If the league members weren't such tools and allowed me to go to the live draft instead of helping my clueless brother over the phone, I would have crushed the league. The one thing of our selections that stands out to me is that we had a crack at Steven Jackson and Frank Gore and missed it, Taking Fitz instead. It works out bc we got F Jones who is gonna be a beast this year, but I think Jackson and Gore are due for very good years. They'll each get 250+ carries and 50 catches and somehow dropped low 2nd in a PPR. That's part the quality of the opponents here, part concerns about their respective teams and injuries | ||
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