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Alaron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States225 Posts
August 11 2011 05:30 GMT
#801
Lets go HESTER! clap clap clapclapclap!
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 06:02:29
August 11 2011 05:39 GMT
#802
On August 11 2011 13:05 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 10:26 BloodNinja wrote:
On August 11 2011 09:02 Tegin wrote:
On August 11 2011 08:58 DannyJ wrote:
Rex Grossman found himself in a super bowl one year... anything is possible.

That's just like Trent Dilfer story..winning simply on good defense.


I don't remember Dilfer being as epicly terrible as Grossman. I've always felt the statement "the Bears made the Super Bowl despite Rex Grossman" to be fairly accurate. I remember Dilfer being mediocre but steady, as opposed to to Grossman who repeatedly submarined games single-handedly.

Edit- Maybe Rex wasnt as bad as consistently as I remember. But he had a below average season to say the least.

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Average QB rating: 73.9


Rex Grossman hasn't been relevant since 2007

+ Show Spoiler +


Anybody else remember this game? Keep dreaming Grossman.


The Dallas fan in me wants to vomit when I see disgustingly pretty deep throws like that, the VT alumni in me is proud as hell..... Ugh!

Also I agree on Grossman, although as shown by the graph above the only relevant discussion even in 2006 was which Grossman was going to show up to the Bears game.

Edit - Also, no one who seriously follows football is sleeping on the Packers. Most talk radio (and some of them are borderline retarded) I am hearing currently is saying any challenger in the NFC who wants to go to the Super Bowl is going have to go through the Packers. They have just elevated the Eagles to the rank of serious contender at this point. Its just the fact that the Eagles were already a playoff contender last season and then they decided to go all-in this season.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 11 2011 11:49 GMT
#803
I know it's just the preseason, but, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 13:40:39
August 11 2011 13:39 GMT
#804
I spent like two hours preparing a bunch of shit for my brother's live draft league bc he is a moron and asks before the day of the event.

it's a ppr + return yards, so scoring is kind of funky. one spot i've been confused on is the saints RB battle. Ivory carried for most of last season, averaging around 5ypc. Thomas was resigned for 4 years in the offseason. Mark Ingrahm was drafted at the end of the first round. And Sproles was signed in the offseason to essentially replace bush.

Most mocks had Sproles fairly low, but I'm thinking with PPR (.5) and return (50 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 200 yards), he should certainly be a good mid draft pick.

anyone else want to provide insight here?

On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3
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rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
August 11 2011 14:35 GMT
#805
On August 11 2011 22:39 Hawk wrote:
I spent like two hours preparing a bunch of shit for my brother's live draft league bc he is a moron and asks before the day of the event.

it's a ppr + return yards, so scoring is kind of funky. one spot i've been confused on is the saints RB battle. Ivory carried for most of last season, averaging around 5ypc. Thomas was resigned for 4 years in the offseason. Mark Ingrahm was drafted at the end of the first round. And Sproles was signed in the offseason to essentially replace bush.

Most mocks had Sproles fairly low, but I'm thinking with PPR (.5) and return (50 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 200 yards), he should certainly be a good mid draft pick.

anyone else want to provide insight here?

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3


The Saints have alot of options, so my advised would be to stay away from them. But then agian, ppr + return yards could give sproles a good value as a second back. Not totally sure what I would have done, go on your feeling.

Steve Smith is solid, eagles are boosting it up for sure.
IMmvp~~
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
August 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#806
I think most of the pre draft lists I saw had no Saints rb higher than like 6/7th, so he'd be drafting as a back up most likely
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 11 2011 14:43 GMT
#807
On August 11 2011 20:49 Ferrose wrote:
I know it's just the preseason, but, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!


Hell yeah.

And seeing the Eagles are definitely trying to make a superbowl run I'm super excited for this season
Computer says mafia
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
August 11 2011 15:12 GMT
#808
On August 11 2011 23:39 Hawk wrote:
I think most of the pre draft lists I saw had no Saints rb higher than like 6/7th, so he'd be drafting as a back up most likely


Personally I avoid Saints RBs as much as I avoided Mike Shannahan RBs in Denver. The situations always appear to be way too convoluted (especially drafting this early when no one has had a chance to establish themselves to a role in camps yet). That said, if Sproles has secured himself the job as the return man, he could be worth a late round flier, imo.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 11 2011 15:14 GMT
#809
On August 11 2011 22:39 Hawk wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3



Didn't he have a pretty bad injury and people were actually wondering if he'd be able to play again? Otherwise, he's one of the better #2 receivers in the league. He's probably one of the best safety valves to get first downs if the first option is covered.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
August 11 2011 15:23 GMT
#810
On August 12 2011 00:14 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 22:39 Hawk wrote:

On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3



Didn't he have a pretty bad injury and people were actually wondering if he'd be able to play again? Otherwise, he's one of the better #2 receivers in the league. He's probably one of the best safety valves to get first downs if the first option is covered.

Yeah microfracture, but that's hardly career ending in 2011, esp on such a young dude. I can see the team's resistance to giving him a multi year, but the gmen low balled him on the 1 year as well. A dude who had a 100+ catch season just 16 games ago deserves to get $4m on a one year for sure and the giants werent offering
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 15:30:26
August 11 2011 15:29 GMT
#811
On August 12 2011 00:23 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 00:14 andrewlt wrote:
On August 11 2011 22:39 Hawk wrote:

On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3



Didn't he have a pretty bad injury and people were actually wondering if he'd be able to play again? Otherwise, he's one of the better #2 receivers in the league. He's probably one of the best safety valves to get first downs if the first option is covered.

Yeah microfracture, but that's hardly career ending in 2011, esp on such a young dude. I can see the team's resistance to giving him a multi year, but the gmen low balled him on the 1 year as well. A dude who had a 100+ catch season just 16 games ago deserves to get $4m on a one year for sure and the giants werent offering


You are right it is not a career ending injury, but the thing is he might not be able able to play a full season right now. Is he still worth $4 million if he is only able to play 3/4 the season? What if there is any kind of setback in rehab and he is only there for 1/2 a season now? I think the offer they gave him is right in line with their expectations for his injury. The Eagles took a gamble, but it was a good gamble imo since they are really going all out this year for a Super Bowl run.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
August 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#812
He's overpaid $1m at the very most if he only shows up for half, and the Iggles seem to think he doesnt miss more than 4, if that.

I was arguing bout this with my giants buddy and then I went to look up salary figures. Corey Webster gets $8m, just a hair under what Eli Manning makes. Haha.
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rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
August 11 2011 23:15 GMT
#813
damn! Im so ready for some football now, just got my gamepass. Dont even care if its only preseason, with the lockout going on I just got so pumped for some games.

Go Chargers, should be a good year, gl to all of the teams and fans :D
IMmvp~~
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 12 2011 01:32 GMT
#814
Will be good for the Chargers if Bob Sanders can play more than ONE GAME without getting hurt
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
August 12 2011 02:33 GMT
#815
On August 12 2011 10:32 tonight wrote:
Will be good for the Chargers if Bob Sanders can play more than ONE GAME without getting hurt



Won't happen, the guy throws himself around at 100 mph every play, but his body just can't handle the punishment. Who knows, when he played a full season in 2007 (I think, dun quote me) he won defensive player of the year and was one of about 3 good defenders the colts had. The guy is a savage, his body just doesn't like 20 mph head on collisions with 200+ pound running backs.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
August 12 2011 03:52 GMT
#816
On August 12 2011 00:55 Hawk wrote:
He's overpaid $1m at the very most if he only shows up for half, and the Iggles seem to think he doesnt miss more than 4, if that.

I was arguing bout this with my giants buddy and then I went to look up salary figures. Corey Webster gets $8m, just a hair under what Eli Manning makes. Haha.


I didn't know Maclin was not practicing yet due to an unknown illness.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp11/story/_/id/6853488/jeremy-maclin-philadelphia-eagles-more-testing
Given the latest reports this was a good pickup even if they overpaid him.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 12 2011 04:03 GMT
#817
On August 12 2011 00:23 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 00:14 andrewlt wrote:
On August 11 2011 22:39 Hawk wrote:

On August 11 2011 08:50 slyboogie wrote:
Steve Smith of USC and the New York Giants has been signed by the Eagles. Totally solid third receiver and can be a second option if Maclin can't get healthy.


He really should be a good #2 on a team somewhere. A bit of a waste of his talents ot have him as the #3



Didn't he have a pretty bad injury and people were actually wondering if he'd be able to play again? Otherwise, he's one of the better #2 receivers in the league. He's probably one of the best safety valves to get first downs if the first option is covered.

Yeah microfracture, but that's hardly career ending in 2011, esp on such a young dude. I can see the team's resistance to giving him a multi year, but the gmen low balled him on the 1 year as well. A dude who had a 100+ catch season just 16 games ago deserves to get $4m on a one year for sure and the giants werent offering


I don't really think he's a great number 2 receiver. He had that really nice year in New York when Manningham, Nicks and Smith all had breakout or semi-breakout seasons - 2009? Plus he had that ligament damage, which isn't career ending, but robs athletes of leap and cut: Think 2003 Amar'e Stoudemire and 2008 Amar'e.

On the other hand, I probably couldn't list...25? receivers I'd rather have and he's young, so it's definitely a fine signing.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 12 2011 18:45 GMT
#818
LEE EVANS!
*insert excited whoop*
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 19:05:49
August 12 2011 18:52 GMT
#819
On August 13 2011 03:45 Southlight wrote:
LEE EVANS!
*insert excited whoop*


Lee Evans to the Ravens for a 4th round pick. Nice job by the Ravens. I know he is a great downfield threat, but I dont know much about the rest of his game.

Edit - I didn't get to watch the Cowboys game yesterday, but the reports I read described exactly what I was expecting. Sloppy/Confused defense that has had 1 week to learn a new system. It still way too early to be worrying about it, and I have hope they will pick things up as pre-season progresses.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 12 2011 19:34 GMT
#820
So I haven't been following all the news that closely. I just heard that the Vikings released T Bryant McKinnie because they were afraid his cholesterol is too high for him to play. I know some players get fat in the offseason but this takes the cake. ROFL
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