EPTOn February 11 2013 16:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I know for a fact both those players are cheaters, both using the same manner of aimbot. I would not ever claim someone was cheating without significant evidence or seeing it myself. I was simply expressing my confusion over SOE banning one of them but not the other, given that they exhibit very similar behavior (at least from the perspective of playing against them in-game).
I am collecting and studying the stats of known cheaters, but I'm trying to get more information so that I can determine for myself whether cheaters can be located reliably through the stats we have available. I'd ask for links on the main forums, but I wouldn't trust anyone there with a fake dollar bill, much less data.
I don't see anything weird in that Daddy guy's stats tbh. K/D is a pretty awful stat - it's next to meaningless in this game unless you know how skilled or unskilled the player is beforehand and their normal manner of approaching gameplay. The thing that stands out to me is his headshot rate - he very clearly doesn't play infantry. Just his headshot rate and most played class: engineer explain his K/D.
A very large majority of people in the game play as mostly infantry. They tend to have 10% headshot rate - that seems to be the headshot rate from just aiming and firing normally. Some people have 20% (it's rare to find something in between from what I've seen). I would guess these are people that aim more deliberately for headshots or play infiltrator more often. Then there are infiltrators which very commonly show up as most played and have between 20-40 (the ones at 20 tend to have significantly higher vehicle kills - a sign that they play other classes more often than the only-infiltrator guys). These are patterns I've noticed that are statistically significant. That means that anyone outside this pattern is a statistical outlier. I think that you can't ultimately prove cheating based on stats, but you can find statistical outliers. Statistical outliers are either going to be exceptional players, players with a rare playstyle or approach to gameplay, or cheaters.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I know for a fact both those players are cheaters, both using the same manner of aimbot. I would not ever claim someone was cheating without significant evidence or seeing it myself. I was simply expressing my confusion over SOE banning one of them but not the other, given that they exhibit very similar behavior (at least from the perspective of playing against them in-game).
I am collecting and studying the stats of known cheaters, but I'm trying to get more information so that I can determine for myself whether cheaters can be located reliably through the stats we have available. I'd ask for links on the main forums, but I wouldn't trust anyone there with a fake dollar bill, much less data.
I don't see anything weird in that Daddy guy's stats tbh. K/D is a pretty awful stat - it's next to meaningless in this game unless you know how skilled or unskilled the player is beforehand and their normal manner of approaching gameplay. The thing that stands out to me is his headshot rate - he very clearly doesn't play infantry. Just his headshot rate and most played class: engineer explain his K/D.
A very large majority of people in the game play as mostly infantry. They tend to have 10% headshot rate - that seems to be the headshot rate from just aiming and firing normally. Some people have 20% (it's rare to find something in between from what I've seen). I would guess these are people that aim more deliberately for headshots or play infiltrator more often. Then there are infiltrators which very commonly show up as most played and have between 20-40 (the ones at 20 tend to have significantly higher vehicle kills - a sign that they play other classes more often than the only-infiltrator guys). These are patterns I've noticed that are statistically significant. That means that anyone outside this pattern is a statistical outlier. I think that you can't ultimately prove cheating based on stats, but you can find statistical outliers. Statistical outliers are either going to be exceptional players, players with a rare playstyle or approach to gameplay, or cheaters.
Ok, if you want more links:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/character.php?stats=ThatNameOIsUnavailable
This guy is a cheater i ran into the other night. Shot me through walls, flew backwards with a Scythe, shot sideways with the Scythe primary, etc.
Obvious statistical outlier with 3.7 kills/minute.
A few weeks ago there was this guy:
http://www.planetside-universe.com/character.php?stats=Banek192
50% headshot ratio, 2 kills/minute.
I run into one of those maybe once a week and i usually just report them (prepatch through ticket), i don't bother writing down the names since they are too rare to really concern me. I just remembered the name of the first one since it was just 2 nights ago and for the other guy i had a support ticket in the service history.
EDIT:
I f*cking hate the NC -.-
I spent the last 3 hours falling back from base to base while groups of 3-4 people captured every base i defended and no NC anywhere in sight eventhough the continent was maxed out, so i had to 1v3+ on every single base to try to slow them down as much as possible in the hopes of at some point getting reinforcements. We went from almost warpgating the VS to losing Mao Tech Plant to a single VS squad.
If it wasn't for Zukhov and his fun platoon, i'd switch factions in a heartbeat. NC appears to attract the least intelligent people of all 3 factions, those that go around spamming "SPACE MURICA" and such.
I f*cking hate the NC -.-
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I f*cking hate the NC. Seriously.
