Battlefield 3 - Page 406

On February 08 2012 03:19 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Or, alternatively bring the city into play. There's absolutely no reason Meto can't have the city above the metro tunnels being an active part of the map as well. That'd make it one insanely good map too.

On February 08 2012 04:32 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


yeah metro isnt THAT bad if you look at the whole map. its just the actual metro thats so shitty/ made for 16 player servers

On February 08 2012 05:53 Chriscras wrote:
WHEN is the DLC announcement in NY this week?!

On February 08 2012 06:45 WakaDoDo wrote:

Nobody knows, and we all have trouble sleeping in anticipation!
Nobody else? Just me? D:

VoIP used to increase logic and organization level

Big maps would increase teamplay and natural logic level.

Now flags are so close that everybody can walk roads as individuals and natural logic level never goes beyond the example I wrote up.

Also, in this map, basic strategies wrote by text will have a longer time to be executed.

On February 08 2012 11:43 askTeivospy wrote:


I'm sorry, but I think you give people on the internet too much credit

I see you're trying to get your map noticed by DICE so if you want to sell it as an improved teamwork map thats fine, but in reality it'll be like all other maps in any other pub server no matter how much effort you put into it. I kinda have experience with this since I worked on a pretty big WWII mod in bf1942 as a mapper as well as other things o_O

regardless GL on the map, but I remain cynical because frankly it wont turn out the way you picture it if DICE does make it.

edit-

One thing I've noticed is that the only real problem with the current maps is that all the fighting is centralized in the middle of the map with the main bases fairly close. This is the obvious reason why you end up in situations where 1 team ends up camping the other teams main base while defending the flags they own on 64p servers. Really stupid design on DICE's part IMO

On February 08 2012 12:44 Phelix wrote:
The current maps revolve around the center, and that there aren't that many flanking maneuvers, and the bases are very close. Combined with the fact that there aren't enough vehicles in the starting bases to begin, some people will have to be undoubtedly be frustrated. For example: 64 player Firestorm.

Vehicles in main base:
2 Jets. 1 Attack Chopper, 1 Transport Chopper, 4 Tanks, 1 AA Vehicle, and 1 Jeep
2+2+5+12(Hopefully enough people with CITV)+1+3=25 Players on Vehicles
Which means that no matter what, 7 players are going to be left behind on a full server, thus the decision to be made is to make the map smaller and so that these extra players can reach a main base without being frustrated walking base to base far away. If you make the maps bigger, you have to include at least 6-7 Jeeps for each side.

Also, no one bothers to use VOIP in game, I can't be bothered listening to other people. Random public games will always be random, mostly one-sided rapes with base camping. You can't expect teamwork with that many randoms, better off just trying to play your best with little consideration for others.

On February 08 2012 20:30 IveReturned wrote:

It used to be not so random, a lot of the times, even commander and good commo-rose would make a change for teamwork.

also, squads woul stick together, not only in maps like metro

edit: voip assured epic games when it happened

On February 09 2012 00:05 Rob28 wrote:


First of all, the "commander" thing is going to sink your map, mainly because DICE isn't going to want to develop a map that's been designed around a feature that they themselves will also have to develop to make the map work.

Secondly, squads will NOT stick together. The occasional squad of more seasoned players will, but in all honesty, on vehicle-heavy maps with far-spaced objectives, most WILL scatter. And if there's long distances involved, expect many lone-wolf Recons to break up your squad system.

As was said before, it won't matter how much you design the map to be played with teamwork; people will play it the way they play it, and generally there's no reason they won't play it the way they've been playing every other map. Working in squads with good coordination shows benefits on every map... but as you can see, clearly the general populace just doesn't adhere to "ideal" strategy.

Sorry to burst bubbles, but you should keep your expectations real and not waste time trying to herd cats.

PS: The VOIP thing... not going to help. Anybody who has every played COD on an XBox can attest to that.

EDIT: I've decided to inject some constructive suggestions in here. What I'd advise is to find a map already out there that you consider really good. Then play the shit out of that map. Find everything you like and do not like about that map. Design your new map around elements you like, and find a way to mitigate the parts you didn't like from the other map. Then slap a different texture palette on that thing and package it up. Voila, map successfully designed.

On February 09 2012 03:10 IveReturned wrote:


1.ONE squad will stick together, not all of them
2.Every game has its lone wolves. It is also an aspect of the game. There used to be lone volves either in Battlefield 2 and 2142, and BC2 was compiled with lone wolves. I used to find being a lone wolf fun sometimes
3.Voip worked and I will not continue to talk about this.Iit doesnt work every time.
4.Ive played the shit out of battlefield games and this is the combination of Highway Tampa, sidi power plant,zatar wetlands, dragon valley and Verdun, and some aspects of Cerbere.
5.The maps thought pocess is UNfinished, just point me out the problems.
6. This map is not the best and also the BIGGEST map ever.
7.Commander will not sink the map, since when it happens you usually win. See games on Suez w/ commander, also, have you EVER seen Port Bavaria? one order is gamebreaking, since the natural logic pulls people to the first deck everytime. Actually teamplay won anytime on most maps of 2142, except 3 of them
8.At least we will see some attack and defend orders in a map. I saw it twice in 30 hours and I only play Conq Large

Jost post, do this and that, this is a problem, you can add this.I really dont want to discuss about the teamplay anymore.

On February 09 2012 07:13 HarryHood wrote:
If anybody wants to play co-op message me in battlelog or PM here, my battlelog name is 'CarpeDizem'.

I really want to play them but none of my friends play on PC =(

On February 09 2012 13:26 askTeivospy wrote:
ugh I want to know what the DLC is ><

On February 09 2012 15:39 Miss_Cleo wrote:


Probably a shitty remake of an old map and a few more weapons and vehicles that behave just like all the other weapons and vehicles in the game.