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BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
February 03 2012 00:48 GMT
#8061
On February 03 2012 09:45 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:25 DNB wrote:
Why use rifles when you can just use m320... LOL ^^



Real men kill people with smoke grenades on Metro


That video gets me a little upset lol.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:02:30
February 03 2012 01:01 GMT
#8062
On February 01 2012 20:28 ChoboCop wrote:
Hi folks I'm the leader of Area 51 Gaming's BF3 team. We also have a Starcraft 2 team that's been doing great. http://www.area51gaming.com I'll be happy to clear up what's going on with the N.A. BF3 scene.

News:
Going on presently is a tournament by Plantronics, Alienware is having the playoffs this Saturday and Sunday.
Pro gaming team Epsilon(European) was discovered hacking recently and they hacked to win the North American NewEgg WanFest(sadly hacking vs my team eliminating us in the finals).

Guns(default: shoot in 5 shot bursts):
M16A3 is the best weapon by default. The recoil pattern is consistently up and to the right and tight. The reload is the fastest.
AEK is 2nd choice because of high ROF. This can be used to overcome the M16 in closer combat.
FAMAS is going to win you a battle against almost any gun if you can get your bullets on target, sadly at mid/long range that's not going to happen.
F2000 WAS the gun of choice before it was nerfed a couple months back. It got a higher % of headshots because the first bullet would often climb and hit the exact same spot as the 2nd bullet giving instant HS kills.
PKP is the best Support gun overall due to the highest non-sniper base damage and the lowest max recoil spread so you can really hold down mouse1 and let her rip.
M27IAR very nice if you want more accuracy on your support traded for lesser base damage.
M4A1 is the best engineer gun.
A91 is the best hipfire engineer gun.
M98B is the best bold action base damage 95.
QBU88(karkand) is the best semi-auto sniper. (very accurate)
ASVal or USAS12 for rungun sniper.
-M320 Grenade launcher is OP and will be banned from league play soon.

Perks(In order of what you should get if not already gotten):
Sprint
Ammo
Dbl Grenade(gives extra 320's :D)
Flak
Explosives
Suppression
Cover

Sights:
Kobra is best giving you increased FOV.
Reflex is 2nd and gives slightly more zoomed in tighter shots.
Iron sights pop up the quickest.
8x for being a campy douche.
3.4x for being actually effective. You want the 3.4 by default. No scope glint is a big deal and this scope pulls up fast.

Attachments:
Heavy barrel sucks.
Use the silencer or use nothing.
If you use the silencer account at longer range for increased bullet drop.
Laser sight gives your position away.(trust me)(to use this you must toggle it effectively which most people can't consistently do quickly)
Foregrip is essential. Never leave spawn without it.

Vehicles:
You can stack perks on the tank. (driver=armor,gunner=prox scan,3seat=therm camo)
Canister shell is the best, get good with it. (Bye bye choppers)
You can place a medpack on the side of the Z11 or Littlebird while there is a pilot inside which will stay in place and heal you while flying.
AAMTRAC has a #2 gun and built in smoke. -unstealable-
Steal vehicles. Repair on his backside til he gets out to kill you then hop in his tank and kill him. :D
Best Jet loadout: Air Radar, Extinguisher(learn to dodge missles noob), Rocket Pods
Best Lil bird loadout(can you fly through the sewer under the building on canals?): Laser Painter, ECM Jammer, Guided also good is Stealth, ECM, Seekers
Improve your rocket accuracy in the planes and chopper by using the upper case i to tell you the 'offset' on where it will land in correspondence to your reticle.

Tweaks:
Increase saturation(ATI) or digital vibrance(Nvidia) on your video card settings to make colors(enemies) pop out better.
Play in your native resolution.
All settings on Low except MESH which goes on ultra.
You can record your games with minimal FPS lag using MSI Afterburner.

Competitive community forum: bf3esports.com


I'll add anyone from Teamliquid and I'm happy to answer any questions.
Battlelog: 51-BLaZN

Love you Teamliquid.



Thanks for the visual settings this is great! Also stats seem to suggest the QBU88 is not really superior to the MK11 or EMR. Is it a preference thing or is the recoil just that much better?

whoops I meant to edit this into my post above but accidentally posted sorry
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
GDR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada407 Posts
February 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#8063
On February 03 2012 10:01 BearStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 20:28 ChoboCop wrote:
Hi folks I'm the leader of Area 51 Gaming's BF3 team. We also have a Starcraft 2 team that's been doing great. http://www.area51gaming.com I'll be happy to clear up what's going on with the N.A. BF3 scene.

News:
Going on presently is a tournament by Plantronics, Alienware is having the playoffs this Saturday and Sunday.
Pro gaming team Epsilon(European) was discovered hacking recently and they hacked to win the North American NewEgg WanFest(sadly hacking vs my team eliminating us in the finals).

Guns(default: shoot in 5 shot bursts):
M16A3 is the best weapon by default. The recoil pattern is consistently up and to the right and tight. The reload is the fastest.
AEK is 2nd choice because of high ROF. This can be used to overcome the M16 in closer combat.
FAMAS is going to win you a battle against almost any gun if you can get your bullets on target, sadly at mid/long range that's not going to happen.
F2000 WAS the gun of choice before it was nerfed a couple months back. It got a higher % of headshots because the first bullet would often climb and hit the exact same spot as the 2nd bullet giving instant HS kills.
PKP is the best Support gun overall due to the highest non-sniper base damage and the lowest max recoil spread so you can really hold down mouse1 and let her rip.
M27IAR very nice if you want more accuracy on your support traded for lesser base damage.
M4A1 is the best engineer gun.
A91 is the best hipfire engineer gun.
M98B is the best bold action base damage 95.
QBU88(karkand) is the best semi-auto sniper. (very accurate)
ASVal or USAS12 for rungun sniper.
-M320 Grenade launcher is OP and will be banned from league play soon.

Perks(In order of what you should get if not already gotten):
Sprint
Ammo
Dbl Grenade(gives extra 320's :D)
Flak
Explosives
Suppression
Cover

Sights:
Kobra is best giving you increased FOV.
Reflex is 2nd and gives slightly more zoomed in tighter shots.
Iron sights pop up the quickest.
8x for being a campy douche.
3.4x for being actually effective. You want the 3.4 by default. No scope glint is a big deal and this scope pulls up fast.

Attachments:
Heavy barrel sucks.
Use the silencer or use nothing.
If you use the silencer account at longer range for increased bullet drop.
Laser sight gives your position away.(trust me)(to use this you must toggle it effectively which most people can't consistently do quickly)
Foregrip is essential. Never leave spawn without it.

Vehicles:
You can stack perks on the tank. (driver=armor,gunner=prox scan,3seat=therm camo)
Canister shell is the best, get good with it. (Bye bye choppers)
You can place a medpack on the side of the Z11 or Littlebird while there is a pilot inside which will stay in place and heal you while flying.
AAMTRAC has a #2 gun and built in smoke. -unstealable-
Steal vehicles. Repair on his backside til he gets out to kill you then hop in his tank and kill him. :D
Best Jet loadout: Air Radar, Extinguisher(learn to dodge missles noob), Rocket Pods
Best Lil bird loadout(can you fly through the sewer under the building on canals?): Laser Painter, ECM Jammer, Guided also good is Stealth, ECM, Seekers
Improve your rocket accuracy in the planes and chopper by using the upper case i to tell you the 'offset' on where it will land in correspondence to your reticle.

Tweaks:
Increase saturation(ATI) or digital vibrance(Nvidia) on your video card settings to make colors(enemies) pop out better.
Play in your native resolution.
All settings on Low except MESH which goes on ultra.
You can record your games with minimal FPS lag using MSI Afterburner.

Competitive community forum: bf3esports.com


I'll add anyone from Teamliquid and I'm happy to answer any questions.
Battlelog: 51-BLaZN

Love you Teamliquid.



Thanks for the visual settings this is great! Also stats seem to suggest the QBU88 is not really superior to the MK11 or EMR. Is it a preference thing or is the recoil just that much better?

whoops I meant to edit this into my post above but accidentally posted sorry


I didn't see it in his post, but play in color blind mode. It takes a lot of the stress of the eyes, everything pops out more, and makes it easier to go from lets say Metro to Canals (a map with a very annoying sunglare).
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
February 03 2012 18:29 GMT
#8064
On February 01 2012 20:28 ChoboCop wrote:
All settings on Low except MESH which goes on ultra.


I just got a new PC and went from everything on low and 20FPS to everything on high and 60FPS so I'm curious if there's any deeper reasoning behind this than just FPS gain? The MESH on ultra I can understand though.

I do recall low graphics giving some advantages in previous BF games (at least in BC2) like making enemies easier to seeand seeing through smoke effects easier etc but I'm curious if thats still the case.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 03 2012 18:54 GMT
#8065
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
February 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#8066
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Everyone has to go through a stage of no-unlocks. My advice for tanks: go into strictly tank vs tank battles until you unlock coaxial gun, then you make very big leaps in your unlocks by killing infantry. Other option is to take up the gunner slot and just pick off infantry... it counts to your tank experience.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
February 03 2012 21:34 GMT
#8067
On February 04 2012 04:08 Rob28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Everyone has to go through a stage of no-unlocks. My advice for tanks: go into strictly tank vs tank battles until you unlock coaxial gun, then you make very big leaps in your unlocks by killing infantry. Other option is to take up the gunner slot and just pick off infantry... it counts to your tank experience.

Another way is to get in the tank ASAP, and start capturing points. 250 points in a tank to start is a great way to farm unlocks with vehicles, especially the AA one because most of the points you get from them are killing infantry and capping points, not shooting down air vehicles (I mean you could, but any competent pilot will dodge your missiles, and guns aren't the most reliable thing unless they fly straight towards you).

Origin is down for some people, including me for now...hope they get it fixed soon.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#8068
After a few games I think I would just stick to play as infantry.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 04 2012 05:16 GMT
#8069
On February 04 2012 04:08 Rob28 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Everyone has to go through a stage of no-unlocks. My advice for tanks: go into strictly tank vs tank battles until you unlock coaxial gun, then you make very big leaps in your unlocks by killing infantry. Other option is to take up the gunner slot and just pick off infantry... it counts to your tank experience.


digimouse i would suggest you watching some videos out there. I would suggest LevelCapGaming or rivalxfactor. they have some good guides for people and also how to use weapons correctly etc. just stick to the suggested weapons like M16A3 and M4A1. To be honest all of the Assault guns are pretty darn good. Engineers just stick with M4A1 or A91
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
February 04 2012 12:10 GMT
#8070
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Oh. Man. I can totally sympathize. I'm in exactly the same boat though not with tanks but with recon.

I think I bottomed out at -550 skill and like 0.20 kid or something.

It's frustrating as hell. Still hoping I can contribute to my team properly one day.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#8071
On February 04 2012 21:10 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Oh. Man. I can totally sympathize. I'm in exactly the same boat though not with tanks but with recon.

I think I bottomed out at -550 skill and like 0.20 kid or something.

It's frustrating as hell. Still hoping I can contribute to my team properly one day.


Necro, if your 0.20 KD as a sniper, perhaps you can consider moving more up. For me the optimum distance for me to play my sniper is 100-200m. This is the distance where there is practically no-little bullet drop, where i aim is where i hit. Thus my kill rates go up.

However it also do mean im more exposed. But i counter that by not camping. I move about the map helping the team cover objectives that are being capped etc. One good thing about bolt action sniper rifles are their high damage, if the enemy takes the slightest damage from your teammates, a sniper shot into his body still gets you the kill. There's no need to "MUST" aim for a headshot at 100-200m. a body shot, or 2 will still kill someone.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 14:11:57
February 04 2012 14:11 GMT
#8072
Looking for people who are willing to play with an fps newbie. :D

Add me up.

Battlelog: SpaceFlare
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
February 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#8073
And if anyone is still interested in playing BC2, hit me up @ FlamingForce on Steam.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2012 15:38 GMT
#8074
Thx for the advice guys, maybe I'll stick with playing 32man rush till I get a better PC.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 17:45:18
February 04 2012 17:43 GMT
#8075
On February 04 2012 06:34 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 04:08 Rob28 wrote:
On February 04 2012 03:54 digmouse wrote:
On February 01 2012 18:03 IveReturned wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:40 digmouse wrote:
So what do you guys suggest as a new player? Though played BF2 and BF2142, still don't figure out what to do in this game and yeah my aiming sucks due to bad system performance so it's kinda painful to play it now.


Woo bf2142 veteran!! :D

If you don't think you can aim properly, try out the tanks. They have splash damage ,they die hard and you can find one immediately.


Riding a tank as an assault with no unlocks feels like... meh don't wanna talk about it, the last 2 days I tried a lot other solutions only get my skill drop further to -400 with a KD of 0.25.


Everyone has to go through a stage of no-unlocks. My advice for tanks: go into strictly tank vs tank battles until you unlock coaxial gun, then you make very big leaps in your unlocks by killing infantry. Other option is to take up the gunner slot and just pick off infantry... it counts to your tank experience.

Another way is to get in the tank ASAP, and start capturing points. 250 points in a tank to start is a great way to farm unlocks with vehicles, especially the AA one because most of the points you get from them are killing infantry and capping points, not shooting down air vehicles (I mean you could, but any competent pilot will dodge your missiles, and guns aren't the most reliable thing unless they fly straight towards you).

Origin is down for some people, including me for now...hope they get it fixed soon.


the aa is damn strong against infantry yeah but still i find it quite a waste just using it that way. even if you dont kill that much (and you should still get plenty of kills) just the presence of a AA locking on enemies and shooting is VERY important.

also since i read so much about it how do you reliably dodge missiles? i mean i often do it but since i often dont know where the missiles come from and the distance where they where shot from i still get hit sometimes.

and btw ive read that the air radar is supposed to show missiles? never saw one on my radar. in general dont quite see the point of the air radar since the "n-n" minimap is even bigger and while it doesnt show all the "noise" it also doesnt show ground vehicles. atm i rather use stealth so im pretty much not lockable together with the ecm.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#8076
Anyone else who really liked the L85A2? I realize it's one of the worst guns for CQB, but I feel like it's extremely good at mid-long distances. I can't really make myself use a gun like the FAMAS (insane bullet spewer, not my style, lol), and unless something changed lately I can't be bothered to use the faction specific guns either, since if you select the M16 as a russian, when you switch to US later, you have the AK equipped, etc. Really annoying.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#8077
On February 05 2012 05:14 Maxie wrote:
Anyone else who really liked the L85A2? I realize it's one of the worst guns for CQB, but I feel like it's extremely good at mid-long distances. I can't really make myself use a gun like the FAMAS (insane bullet spewer, not my style, lol), and unless something changed lately I can't be bothered to use the faction specific guns either, since if you select the M16 as a russian, when you switch to US later, you have the AK equipped, etc. Really annoying.


...You managed to win 5 SQDM games? I tip my hat off to you sir. I will stick with the AN-94/g3a3 for the time being, played about 6-7 games of SQDM and i nearly ripped my own head off in frustration...what an awful gamemode :<
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 21:55:29
February 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#8078
On February 05 2012 02:43 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
also since i read so much about it how do you reliably dodge missiles? i mean i often do it but since i often dont know where the missiles come from and the distance where they where shot from i still get hit sometimes.

and btw ive read that the air radar is supposed to show missiles? never saw one on my radar. in general dont quite see the point of the air radar since the "n-n" minimap is even bigger and while it doesnt show all the "noise" it also doesnt show ground vehicles. atm i rather use stealth so im pretty much not lockable together with the ecm.

I'll defer that to Teivospy as he is the resident jet expert on TL, and wrote an excellent Youtube guide to fly past missiles.

Air radar does not show missiles. I guess I'll have to learn how to fly jets competently someday, just need to know how to shoot, and press the trigger quickly.

Should I switch my pistol (93R) to another one once I get my 5th service star, and start unlocking dogtags for another one, or keep the same pistol?

Another rant, I dislike how mortar kills don't count unless you get the hit animation from the mortar being hit while in the mortar. I prefer to move my mortar after every shot to prevent from being counter-mortared, but even then it's hard because there's a white flash on your mini-map if you set-up your mortar in the first place.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 05 2012 02:26 GMT
#8079
On February 05 2012 05:52 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 05:14 Maxie wrote:
Anyone else who really liked the L85A2? I realize it's one of the worst guns for CQB, but I feel like it's extremely good at mid-long distances. I can't really make myself use a gun like the FAMAS (insane bullet spewer, not my style, lol), and unless something changed lately I can't be bothered to use the faction specific guns either, since if you select the M16 as a russian, when you switch to US later, you have the AK equipped, etc. Really annoying.


...You managed to win 5 SQDM games? I tip my hat off to you sir. I will stick with the AN-94/g3a3 for the time being, played about 6-7 games of SQDM and i nearly ripped my own head off in frustration...what an awful gamemode :<


i cheated. i traded wins with a friend on a SQDM server that only requires 1kill to win. we both got our guns together. you can search for SQDM mode on Battlelog.
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Last Edited: 2012-02-05 03:03:37
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On February 01 2012 20:28 ChoboCop wrote:
Tweaks:
Increase saturation(ATI) or digital vibrance(Nvidia) on your video card settings to make colors(enemies) pop out better.
Play in your native resolution.
All settings on Low except MESH which goes on ultra.
You can record your games with minimal FPS lag using MSI Afterburner.


If you want to see what these tweaks (+add colorblind mode - it helps) looks like I uploaded a unlisted video.

Filmed with afterburner (use RTV1 compression), and then I just shortned a clip in Vegas and rendered out as a (.wmv). If you record with afterburner, and you are having trouble seeing footage try a different media player (VLC does not work).



Edit: Yes, there is K-POP. Deal with it.
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