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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
With this video up full blast | ||
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GDR
Canada407 Posts
On February 02 2012 00:39 Mithhaike wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 01 2012 20:28 ChoboCop wrote: Hi folks I'm the leader of Area 51 Gaming's BF3 team. We also have a Starcraft 2 team that's been doing great. http://www.area51gaming.com I'll be happy to clear up what's going on with the N.A. BF3 scene. News: Going on presently is a tournament by Plantronics, Alienware is having the playoffs this Saturday and Sunday. Pro gaming team Epsilon(European) was discovered hacking recently and they hacked to win the North American NewEgg WanFest(sadly hacking vs my team eliminating us in the finals). Guns(default: shoot in 5 shot bursts): M16A3 is the best weapon by default. The recoil pattern is consistently up and to the right and tight. The reload is the fastest. AEK is 2nd choice because of high ROF. This can be used to overcome the M16 in closer combat. FAMAS is going to win you a battle against almost any gun if you can get your bullets on target, sadly at mid/long range that's not going to happen. F2000 WAS the gun of choice before it was nerfed a couple months back. It got a higher % of headshots because the first bullet would often climb and hit the exact same spot as the 2nd bullet giving instant HS kills. PKP is the best Support gun overall due to the highest non-sniper base damage and the lowest max recoil spread so you can really hold down mouse1 and let her rip. M27IAR very nice if you want more accuracy on your support traded for lesser base damage. M4A1 is the best engineer gun. A91 is the best hipfire engineer gun. M98B is the best bold action base damage 95. QBU88(karkand) is the best semi-auto sniper. (very accurate) ASVal or USAS12 for rungun sniper. -M320 Grenade launcher is OP and will be banned from league play soon. Perks(In order of what you should get if not already gotten): Sprint Ammo Dbl Grenade(gives extra 320's :D) Flak Explosives Suppression Cover Sights: Kobra is best giving you increased FOV. Reflex is 2nd and gives slightly more zoomed in tighter shots. Iron sights pop up the quickest. 8x for being a campy douche. 3.4x for being actually effective. You want the 3.4 by default. No scope glint is a big deal and this scope pulls up fast. Attachments: Heavy barrel sucks. Use the silencer or use nothing. If you use the silencer account at longer range for increased bullet drop. Laser sight gives your position away.(trust me)(to use this you must toggle it effectively which most people can't consistently do quickly) Foregrip is essential. Never leave spawn without it. Vehicles: You can stack perks on the tank. (driver=armor,gunner=prox scan,3seat=therm camo) Canister shell is the best, get good with it. (Bye bye choppers) You can place a medpack on the side of the Z11 or Littlebird while there is a pilot inside which will stay in place and heal you while flying. AAMTRAC has a #2 gun and built in smoke. -unstealable- Steal vehicles. Repair on his backside til he gets out to kill you then hop in his tank and kill him. :D Best Jet loadout: Air Radar, Extinguisher(learn to dodge missles noob), Rocket Pods Best Lil bird loadout(can you fly through the sewer under the building on canals?): Laser Painter, ECM Jammer, Guided also good is Stealth, ECM, Seekers Improve your rocket accuracy in the planes and chopper by using the upper case i to tell you the 'offset' on where it will land in correspondence to your reticle. Tweaks: Increase saturation(ATI) or digital vibrance(Nvidia) on your video card settings to make colors(enemies) pop out better. Play in your native resolution. All settings on Low except MESH which goes on ultra. You can record your games with minimal FPS lag using MSI Afterburner. Competitive community forum: bf3esports.com I'll add anyone from Teamliquid and I'm happy to answer any questions. Battlelog: 51-BLaZN Love you Teamliquid.  i agree with everything you've said. Silencer = must on every gun that can equip it. It reduces recoil n makes you steathy. The best way to kill people, is to shoot them from the back. And the silencer lets you keep shooting. M16A3 is hands down the best Assault rifle, except when you go closer in, then MAYBE AEK works better. However, all i can say is always aim for head people. M16A3 will just rape regardless of any range. I disagree. Suppressor is a good attachment, and is useful for various maps and positions. However, you will be more accurate over distance without it. Laser Sight is my prefrence for matches (4v4 and 8v8). | ||
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
As for pistols.. Me and rex get on quite well. Got a lot more pistol kills since I switched to it. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On February 02 2012 11:39 Hawk wrote: I never understood why you'd use the laser sight over a holo or kobra, or a scope. Am I missing something? The first two offer the same zoom without giving up position and the other has superior range with a much less noticable identifier I dont get what your saying Hawk. You can still use a Laser Sight WITH the holo/kobra/any scopes? Laser Sight basically increases your hipfire accuracy....thats it. And it exposes your position...so GDR its not so good imo. I dont hipfire a lot, in those situation that i do hipfire, i dont need the laser pointer to hit anyway haha. Silencer is still the only attachment for me. There's nothing the laser sight can offer me that i cant do on my own, things like hipfire accuracy isn't a impt thing. Steath is. Being able to kill indiscriminately behind enemy lines is just too good to pass up, not to mention Silencer ALSO decreases Vertical Recoil. There's no other attachments that come close to what the Silencer offers in benefits. Laser Sight? meh. Times that i hipfire, the laser wont make a difference anyway.And its just a dead giveaway when you aim at someone. Many times i've killed people using laser sight just by shooting at the centre of the red light, even tho i do not have a proper visual of the enemy.In places with corners & walls, the laser sight is a deadgiveaway before you turn corners just by looking out for a red dot, that someone is aiming there. Of course you can say you can on/off it, but with the additional hassle, i do not get much of a benefit anyway. Flash Light? meh. I outgun most people anyway, dont need that slight advantage a Flashlight gives. I counter enemy flash by shooting slightly to the right and up off centre of the light for easy kills. With the nerf, its not that good anyway. Flash Suppressor? meh. Suppressor outperforms it. It's true flash suppressor doesnt give increased bullet drop, but with the Assault rifles, the bullet drop is neglible at the distance your fighting. I do not have any issues with the bullet drops because any targets thats visible through a Kobra scope is within hitting distance, with no bullet drop. Heavy Barrel? its decent on some guns. AN94 especially works perfectly with this attachment. But it also increases recoil...since im talking about M16A3, heavy barrel is not a good attachment for it. One of the pros of using M16A3 is the low recoil allowing for extremely good accuracy, why do i want to remove one of the pros of the gun? RESULTS:- Silencer is the only good attachment for any gun that can equip it....except sniper rifles and maybe Burst Fire rifles... Decreases vertical recoil + steath with no cons imo. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
Never take flashlight or laser IMO | ||
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GDR
Canada407 Posts
On February 02 2012 12:14 Mithhaike wrote: I dont get what your saying Hawk. You can still use a Laser Sight WITH the holo/kobra/any scopes? Laser Sight basically increases your hipfire accuracy....thats it. And it exposes your position...so GDR its not so good imo. I dont hipfire a lot, in those situation that i do hipfire, i dont need the laser pointer to hit anyway haha. Laser Sight? meh. Times that i hipfire, the laser wont make a difference anyway.And its just a dead giveaway when you aim at someone. Many times i've killed people using laser sight just by shooting at the centre of the red light, even tho i do not have a proper visual of the enemy.In places with corners & walls, the laser sight is a deadgiveaway before you turn corners just by looking out for a red dot, that someone is aiming there. Of course you can say you can on/off it, but with the additional hassle, i do not get much of a benefit anyway. RESULTS:- Silencer is the only good attachment for any gun that can equip it....except sniper rifles and maybe Burst Fire rifles... Decreases vertical recoil + steath with no cons imo. The laser will make a difference when you fire from the hip. Equip it: toggle it on and off. You will see the difference in the cross hair. Don't underestimate hip fire -- it is very accurate and is better for hopping corners. Suppresor is only good for medium distance. It will put you at a disadvantage over distance, because of the added bullet drop/slower bullet speed. This is why, currently, most competition players prefer laser sight or nothing. Suffice it to say, you're wrong. There are draw backs to the suppresor, and they are large when we're dealing with players of skill. | ||
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IveReturned
Turkey258 Posts
http://getsatisfaction.com/battlefield3/ideas/popular I gave a star to most of them as they all are good ideas. Just check them out and don't forget to give a star to the titan mod :D Also (mine, I would like to see some support from you): http://getsatisfaction.com/battlefield3/topics/map_sizes_and_jets http://getsatisfaction.com/battlefield3/topics/mo_unlimited_ammo | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On February 02 2012 14:47 GDR wrote: The laser will make a difference when you fire from the hip. Equip it: toggle it on and off. You will see the difference in the cross hair. Don't underestimate hip fire -- it is very accurate and is better for hopping corners. Suppresor is only good for medium distance. It will put you at a disadvantage over distance, because of the added bullet drop/slower bullet speed. This is why, currently, most competition players prefer laser sight or nothing. Suffice it to say, you're wrong. There are draw backs to the suppresor, and they are large when we're dealing with players of skill. Actually I agree with you GDR on the laser sights. I know the crosshair decrease quite a bit with the Laser Light on...i've done the toggle it on and off to compare. I do not deny hipfire is useful, and its pretty accurate. I do not deny the benefits of Laser Sights, but i do feel your denying the benefits of Suppressors. For example, i disagree with the added bullet drop/bullet speed. The bullet drop does not come into play at the distances we use a Assault Rifle,unless your engaging a target from 200m out. I define short distance as <50m, medium 50-125, long > 125m.I did not have any issues with bullet drop whatsoever. Bullet speed may be a valid point where you 2 kill each other at the same time  Most kills for Assault rifles in my hands, are at medium-short range. I usually do not bother shooting someone from 125m away because of the damage drop off in the 1st place, decent players will be able to get behind cover and survive,while knowing your general location from the damage indicator. I would rather get closer and flank the enemy because i know the direction he's taking. In short, i feel its just a difference in playstyle that we prefer different attachement. Due to me prefering to engage at medium-short distance,especially from flanking positions, silencers are handsdown the best attachment for me. I did illustrate what the other attachments do...or not do for me in my previous post. | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
Its damn hard to get the Nemisis dogtag btw , have startetd playing mainly TeamDM to get it. | ||
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
On February 02 2012 08:13 Gingerninja wrote: Can't believe the damage difference between the L96 and the M98B. Always thought the L96 would be at least the equal. Oh well... still using it. Love it, 1 shot through the face, all you need. As for pistols.. Me and rex get on quite well. Got a lot more pistol kills since I switched to it. I know that this is not real life, but even in games caliber of bullet does matter. 7.62x51mm NATO is nowhere near .338 Magnum. Bullet speed is the other thing. .50cal will always beat anything lesser, just look at this puppy (7.62x51 is not there but just add a bit diameter to that other NATO bullet) | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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askTeivospy
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
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Pippi
Sweden540 Posts
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Phelix
1931 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:46 Torte de Lini wrote: What gun is that and which class, I want to be lame like that hahahahahahaha Standard Metro spammer, USAS-12 with Frag Rounds, and M320 Launcher on the Assault class. On February 03 2012 07:25 Pippi wrote: Pretty dumb that the foregrip isnt standard on all weapons that can have that attached. First you have to kill 20-30 dudes before you can use the gun to it's full potential. I mean whould you ever use the gun without foregrip? I agree, it is asinine on how you have to get a foregrip on every weapon in order to make it more useful. Add to the fact that the only other attachment is the bipod makes it so that you have to use the foregrip. Also funny is that the A-91 states that you can't equip a foregrip according to the description, but you unlock and use the foregrip anyway. | ||
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ChinaRestaurant
Austria324 Posts
On February 03 2012 07:25 Pippi wrote: Pretty dumb that the foregrip isnt standard on all weapons that can have that attached. First you have to kill 20-30 dudes before you can use the gun to it's full potential. I mean whould you ever use the gun without foregrip? I use the AN94 with 6x scope, heavy barrel, no foregrip and m320 for faster switching if someone is behind a wall. Works pretty well since I mainly use it for medium to long range engagements (the 2shot burst is fucking amazingly accurate), if I get closer i switch to pistol usually (M1911 supp. does the trick for me, .45 APC is not as good as the .44 magnum but it has less recoil and still usually takes only 2-3 hits to kill someone on hardcore). Map awareness is key for me when playing like this so I dont get taken by surprise when I'm not on the right weapon. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On February 03 2012 06:25 DNB wrote: Why use rifles when you can just use m320... LOL ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF1gjiqzy1s Real men kill people with smoke grenades on Metro | ||
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