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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:24:59
January 26 2012 21:24 GMT
#7961
So I've been playing some after receiving really helpful feedback after my previous whining. I've been playing a lot with friends who know the game, so it started being really fun. I decided to be a heli/jet pilot, so I've been doing some research on controlling them with keyboard/mouse.

This guy is my favorite so far, he's damn good. I've been going in empty servers and crashing helis and I've started to improve

#1 Grubby Fan.
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
January 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#7962
On January 27 2012 05:25 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 05:17 Rob28 wrote:
On January 27 2012 04:47 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On January 26 2012 06:08 Rob28 wrote:
On January 26 2012 05:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
btw whats a normal spm? im currently at ~245 and rising playing like 95% big vehicle conquest maps. see people with 500++, am i right to assume they mostly play metro etc or is my spm just bad ? my spm was very low when i started since i fooled around A LOT more and in general sucked so im not sure yet what i will peak at.

also whats up with the weird time outs i get more and more often. suddenly i disc from the server and battlelog says i timed out.


BTW, I also get those server timeouts. It's on the server's end I believe, so there's really nothing to be done about it.


starting to question that. i got the some timeouts or disc from time to time before. but now i get it in more then half of my games. i have finished maybe 2 of the last 15 games i joined (sometimes leaving cause of obvious bad game/hack, rest discs).

maybe something is wrong with my install? cause i think it started to happen that often after i installed my ssd + fresh windows 7. moved the battlefield folder to the ssd, hit install in origin and it instantly accepted the old install. could this have something to do with it?

just reinstalling is not really an option since i dont have a dvd drive atm and dont have the installer anymore. so i would have to dl 16gb just to test...

only other option i see atm is that the new server patch somehow fukked something up for me since thats the only other thing that changed during the day i havent played cause of new system setup.


Actually IIRC changing my router really helped me out with disconnects. Maybe your problem lies there...


would be weird since my router is unchanged since 2 windows installs back. but what do you mean by "changing router"?


My old router sucked, so I swapped it out with a different one.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Fumble
Profile Joined May 2010
156 Posts
January 27 2012 01:23 GMT
#7963
On January 26 2012 05:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
btw whats a normal spm? im currently at ~245 and rising playing like 95% big vehicle conquest maps. see people with 500++, am i right to assume they mostly play metro etc or is my spm just bad ? my spm was very low when i started since i fooled around A LOT more and in general sucked so im not sure yet what i will peak at.


Mine is about 529. I play about 20% hardcore, 80% normal. Almost a perfect split between conquest and rush games. Of my 750 games, i've only played conquest metro maybe 8 times. (i avoid it like the plague because I want to keep my stats legitimate). I have some friends who are also completely legit (they play 100% rush) and they have just under 600 SPM.

Imo, maybe as much as 70% of players who avg more than 500 SPM are conquest metro boosters. However there are other ways to easily get more than 500 SPM, none of which i like or condone. People who play on fast vehicle respawn maps can really dominate if they are a good vehicle driver to begin with. Spawning only when a tank or jet is available (which is easy to do if you keep on dieing with your vehicle) can rack you major SPM. Those players can get up to 700-800 SPM. If they are over 800 SPM, it is almost guaranteed they are metro spammers. Playing TDM can also boost you up a bit but not too much. A very underrated way people get super high SPM is to play conquest bazzaar only. Its not as good as conquest metro but allows for people to easily get high SPM while boosting that they dont play conquest metro.

My guess for the cap for a completely legitimate player is about 750 SPM if they constantly play with friends only and always get ace squad ribbon and always win along with other benefits with owning with a squad such as better spawn positions.

The key ribbon to really put you in the 600 SPM range is to get lots of combat efficiency ribbon. That ribbon is the most overpowered ribbon in the game by far. It gives you 500 points per ribbon + it only requires 30 to get your 10000 point medal. Once you get on a 5 person kill streak, every 3 additional kills essentially gets you 800 bonus points. Everyone I have seen and known that averages around 600 SPM have a buttload of those. I only have like 210 of them but i've been getting better at getting them. My friends who avg around 600 would have 400 of that ribbon in 100 hours of play.
GDR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada407 Posts
January 27 2012 02:37 GMT
#7964
Low graphics setting + color blind mode, gogo.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
January 27 2012 03:21 GMT
#7965
On January 27 2012 10:23 Fumble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 05:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
btw whats a normal spm? im currently at ~245 and rising playing like 95% big vehicle conquest maps. see people with 500++, am i right to assume they mostly play metro etc or is my spm just bad ? my spm was very low when i started since i fooled around A LOT more and in general sucked so im not sure yet what i will peak at.


Mine is about 529. I play about 20% hardcore, 80% normal. Almost a perfect split between conquest and rush games. Of my 750 games, i've only played conquest metro maybe 8 times. (i avoid it like the plague because I want to keep my stats legitimate). I have some friends who are also completely legit (they play 100% rush) and they have just under 600 SPM.

Imo, maybe as much as 70% of players who avg more than 500 SPM are conquest metro boosters. However there are other ways to easily get more than 500 SPM, none of which i like or condone. People who play on fast vehicle respawn maps can really dominate if they are a good vehicle driver to begin with. Spawning only when a tank or jet is available (which is easy to do if you keep on dieing with your vehicle) can rack you major SPM. Those players can get up to 700-800 SPM. If they are over 800 SPM, it is almost guaranteed they are metro spammers. Playing TDM can also boost you up a bit but not too much. A very underrated way people get super high SPM is to play conquest bazzaar only. Its not as good as conquest metro but allows for people to easily get high SPM while boosting that they dont play conquest metro.

My guess for the cap for a completely legitimate player is about 750 SPM if they constantly play with friends only and always get ace squad ribbon and always win along with other benefits with owning with a squad such as better spawn positions.

The key ribbon to really put you in the 600 SPM range is to get lots of combat efficiency ribbon. That ribbon is the most overpowered ribbon in the game by far. It gives you 500 points per ribbon + it only requires 30 to get your 10000 point medal. Once you get on a 5 person kill streak, every 3 additional kills essentially gets you 800 bonus points. Everyone I have seen and known that averages around 600 SPM have a buttload of those. I only have like 210 of them but i've been getting better at getting them. My friends who avg around 600 would have 400 of that ribbon in 100 hours of play.


My friend Gatz is a jet pilot in 20ID (as close as you can get to a pro team in BF3) and he's at like 700. Jets are really good to get points since you get 250 points per jet, a LOT of vehicle disable / destroy, a good number of points if you spam Q and the kill streak bonuses as you said

IMO what you need to do is just be extremely mobile, difficult to kill and get a lot of kills. Jets are probably the easiest way to do that when you understand them
hihihi
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 27 2012 03:37 GMT
#7966
Im only at 353 SPM i feel nub now
Mew Mew Pew Pew
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
January 27 2012 03:40 GMT
#7967
Mmm from what I have read average spm is about 250, though you need to keep in mind that the average player is not particularly good. Mine is only 370 or so, but slowly going up, conquest is pretty op for spm on maps such as caspian, where you dont need a vehicle to do super well anyway since C and D are so close to one another, and everything else is still within walking distance. Good way to get your score high is to just play well, a la avoid getting killed, seek out conflicts but do it smartly (again...battles for C and D on caspian conquest large are perfect examples), make use of whatever gear you have, or otherwise destroy people with vehicles. It does annoy me a little bit sometimes when I see someone with 700ish spm, but they have like 90% vehicle exp points and 10% everything else. Just seems weird. I guess its not boosting a la metro, and yet... :/
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 27 2012 07:55 GMT
#7968
Got this game a few days ago and have been playing mostly as recon. It's a lot of fun, but it's also really annoying any time you come up against any vehicle. I've been able to kill a few people in helicopters, but if it's anything else, it feels like I just have to bend over and take it. I really wish I had at least a fighting chance if a tank rolls in to take a point on conquest.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
January 27 2012 08:49 GMT
#7969
On January 27 2012 16:55 aksfjh wrote:
Got this game a few days ago and have been playing mostly as recon. It's a lot of fun, but it's also really annoying any time you come up against any vehicle. I've been able to kill a few people in helicopters, but if it's anything else, it feels like I just have to bend over and take it. I really wish I had at least a fighting chance if a tank rolls in to take a point on conquest.

heres some things you can do:
- roll in your own tank
- snipe them when they get out to repair
- throw a grenade at it
- get help from teammates
- flying a mav into a helicopter/jet is instant-kill

anyway im out of ideas.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 27 2012 09:05 GMT
#7970
On January 27 2012 17:49 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 16:55 aksfjh wrote:
Got this game a few days ago and have been playing mostly as recon. It's a lot of fun, but it's also really annoying any time you come up against any vehicle. I've been able to kill a few people in helicopters, but if it's anything else, it feels like I just have to bend over and take it. I really wish I had at least a fighting chance if a tank rolls in to take a point on conquest.

heres some things you can do:
- roll in your own tank
- snipe them when they get out to repair
- throw a grenade at it
- get help from teammates
- flying a mav into a helicopter/jet is instant-kill

anyway im out of ideas.

Don't servers get mad about the MAV thing though?
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 27 2012 09:07 GMT
#7971
On January 27 2012 16:55 aksfjh wrote:
Got this game a few days ago and have been playing mostly as recon. It's a lot of fun, but it's also really annoying any time you come up against any vehicle. I've been able to kill a few people in helicopters, but if it's anything else, it feels like I just have to bend over and take it. I really wish I had at least a fighting chance if a tank rolls in to take a point on conquest.


Well there's nothing you can do about that. If you want a class that has a fighting chance vs everything, try Engineer.

Recon is strictly anti-personnel only.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 09:58:59
January 27 2012 09:58 GMT
#7972
wrong thread
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
January 27 2012 10:34 GMT
#7973
Played my first couple matches tonight and its been about a month and a half since my last round of games and I noticed when the game starts to want to crash now it somehow "bounces back" and seems to balance itself out. Pretty nice to see there fixing the crash issues.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
January 29 2012 03:39 GMT
#7974
I make thread on battlelog for jet tutorials if anyone wants to watch them

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654624860550003/
hihihi
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:58:04
January 29 2012 03:56 GMT
#7975
It's silly how the M26 (shotgun attachment for the ARs, replaces the medpack) doesn't register as a shotgun kill for the shotgun ribbon. Also, the fact that it has 3 unlocks, while Battlelog doesn't show it makes it frustrating. Getting my 30 kills and be done with this weapon forever.

Also, managed to make my 93R on my #1 weapon list with 370 kills.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
January 29 2012 10:20 GMT
#7976
Everyone keeps talking about offensive recon/battle recon to say they contribute their team.

But what exactly is offensive recon?

I gave it a go with the L96 acog 4x, laser sight, straight pull bolt, and the g18 suppressed as a side arm. I started sniping and instead of my usual 200-300m headshots, most of my targets were between 100-150, though surprisingly you can shoot up to 200 relatively easily with 4x :O.

I must be doing it wrong though, I was getting schooled by machine gunners and struggling to break even on KDR. Only when the teams were pretty stacked was I able to pull off some pretty good ratios.
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 10:36:06
January 29 2012 10:34 GMT
#7977
I love this game but I've been met with some annoying bugs these few days. For example, after joining a server, during every third map change the game goes down and I get the battlelog error saying "Game disconnected: Something went wrong", the crash happens just after the finishing score screen countdown of the previous game, when the next game is supposed to load. I often lose good teams when this happens, ARGHH! I Google'd this, apparently many PC users seem to have this problem (and various others...) EA/Dice seem to take long with these.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#7978
On January 29 2012 19:20 Necrophantasia wrote:
Everyone keeps talking about offensive recon/battle recon to say they contribute their team.

But what exactly is offensive recon?

I gave it a go with the L96 acog 4x, laser sight, straight pull bolt, and the g18 suppressed as a side arm. I started sniping and instead of my usual 200-300m headshots, most of my targets were between 100-150, though surprisingly you can shoot up to 200 relatively easily with 4x :O.

I must be doing it wrong though, I was getting schooled by machine gunners and struggling to break even on KDR. Only when the teams were pretty stacked was I able to pull off some pretty good ratios.


offensive recon basically is a term refering to people moving up to 100-150m range to fight with a lower power scope, instead of the long range sniping people expect from a recon. its a pretty effective style seeing how a sniper rifle does at least 65dmg per shot(bolt action), if you follow your squad and capture points, you can pretty much expect a 1hit ko if the enemy takes any sort of damage....of course its dependent on how accurate you are since you pretty much get only 1shot.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
January 29 2012 14:07 GMT
#7979
On January 29 2012 22:58 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 19:20 Necrophantasia wrote:
Everyone keeps talking about offensive recon/battle recon to say they contribute their team.

But what exactly is offensive recon?

I gave it a go with the L96 acog 4x, laser sight, straight pull bolt, and the g18 suppressed as a side arm. I started sniping and instead of my usual 200-300m headshots, most of my targets were between 100-150, though surprisingly you can shoot up to 200 relatively easily with 4x :O.

I must be doing it wrong though, I was getting schooled by machine gunners and struggling to break even on KDR. Only when the teams were pretty stacked was I able to pull off some pretty good ratios.


offensive recon basically is a term refering to people moving up to 100-150m range to fight with a lower power scope, instead of the long range sniping people expect from a recon. its a pretty effective style seeing how a sniper rifle does at least 65dmg per shot(bolt action), if you follow your squad and capture points, you can pretty much expect a 1hit ko if the enemy takes any sort of damage....of course its dependent on how accurate you are since you pretty much get only 1shot.


It has many connotations.

Some mean going up with your team with a shotgun or some other general weapon and using your motion sensor and whatnot to support your team as you push. I generally just stay back 50-100m with a low power scope and pick off people, however.
DNB
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland995 Posts
January 29 2012 21:27 GMT
#7980
And now I keep getting "Served timed out"-disconnects every second game... Apparently many others too. Such a good game yet I can't really enjoy it like this.
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