On December 31 2011 05:21 tokicheese wrote: i cant decide :/ canister shells, hmg or lmg for tanks?
regarding bipod vs the bolt i usually go with the bipod but it is a pain the ass when it goes down by mistake or it refuses to go down... it's mostly preference i would think
always always always ALWAYS canister shells. The range and ability to combo it with normal shells makes it amazing. It can also disable a chopper/jet at medium range with one shot. The only other option IMO is guided shell when you know you have a reliable source of laser designations. Either a few SOFLAM constantly up or someone in the 3rd seta of the tank with you.
On one of the B2K maps.. I can't think of its name I haven't played too much yet but the one where the attack heli spawns on top of a skyscraper. Soflam+Guided Shell=imba. the heli will never take off. never.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Supressors say on the tooltip that they specifically do reduced dmg at long range so unless the tooltip is directly lying to us and someone did testing on it I'm inclined to disagree.
Also OT, its never ok to use suppressors. Period. Like others have said the bullet drop is significantly increased and it almost impossible to hit someone from like 500m away with a supressor without acting like your shooting someone at 1000m away.
On December 31 2011 08:06 Probe1 wrote: On one of the B2K maps.. I can't think of its name I haven't played too much yet but the one where the attack heli spawns on top of a skyscraper. Soflam+Guided Shell=imba. the heli will never take off. never.
Think it's on Sharqi Peninsula, w/e map has the TV Station lol. Yes, solfma + guided missile/Javelin in the hands of anyone competent means the opposing team will never ever fly their heli or take any kind of vehicle out of their spawn. Makes it very very unfair, same could be said the other way around with the TV Station spawn heli too, it spawns right in the open on top of the building.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Supressors say on the tooltip that they specifically do reduced dmg at long range so unless the tooltip is directly lying to us and someone did testing on it I'm inclined to disagree.
DICE has been lying to us this entire time about our guns. I bet their employees know everything about every gun while we're left in the dark - it's all a scheme to make them feel good about themselves!
#OccupyKarkand
In all seriousness though, silencer is useful if you can get used to it because it allows you to shoot many more times without being spotted. Normally, if you shoot, the enemy turns around and tries to get behind cover. With a silencer, they won't hear you until much later.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Cool, thanks.
Did they change the straight pull bolt for recons?
I thought you could take 2 shots before need for zoomout. Now I don't need to zoom out at all.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Cool, thanks.
Did they change the straight pull bolt for recons?
I thought you could take 2 shots before need for zoomout. Now I don't need to zoom out at all.
? The straight pull allows you to chamber a new bullet in your rifle without having to zoom out. e.g. you can shoot 10 times with your SV98 without having to zoom out, because it auto-reloads itself, but doesn't change the clip. It has always worked that way?
On December 31 2011 05:21 tokicheese wrote: i cant decide :/ canister shells, hmg or lmg for tanks?
regarding bipod vs the bolt i usually go with the bipod but it is a pain the ass when it goes down by mistake or it refuses to go down... it's mostly preference i would think
always always always ALWAYS canister shells. The range and ability to combo it with normal shells makes it amazing. It can also disable a chopper/jet at medium range with one shot. The only other option IMO is guided shell when you know you have a reliable source of laser designations. Either a few SOFLAM constantly up or someone in the 3rd seta of the tank with you.
That's subjective to the map. I love coaxial LMG on long range maps. Why? It's sOOOOOO accurate at a distance it's retarded scary. On Firestorm you can hit snipers up in the mountain from the Army Base objective with only like 1 millimeter rise in the gun to account for drop. It's scary accurate at long range.
Yes, cannister can take out helis and the occasional jet, but personally, any aircraft I can nail with a cannister will be dropped by my main cannon in 1-shot anyway. You'll only rely on cannister for that stuff if you aren't as completely accurate with your main gun as you could be. It's like people who use shotguns; they get them so they don't need to aim.
Coaxial machine gun is also AMAZING against scout choppers and transport choppers, because it has no dropoff, and all passengers/pilot are exposed.
Heavy coaxial machine gun is crap. Don't use it. The light version has WAY better range, and makes up for lack damage with increased RPM anyways.
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Cool, thanks.
Did they change the straight pull bolt for recons?
I thought you could take 2 shots before need for zoomout. Now I don't need to zoom out at all.
? The straight pull allows you to chamber a new bullet in your rifle without having to zoom out. e.g. you can shoot 10 times with your SV98 without having to zoom out, because it auto-reloads itself, but doesn't change the clip. It has always worked that way?
Yeah, you're right. For some strange reason I thought it meant you could shoot twice without zooming out and not until the clip is empty.
Rofl. I have the last 3 weeks zoomed out after firing twice since I thought you had to do that, else it wouldn't fire another round.
I happend to notice that you can fire until the clip is empty by accident today when I was just firing at a wall testing some bullet drop effect.
Finally got the L85A2. Was on a good squad and won 4 in a row and then went to one of those 5 kill servers and killed 4 people and won the game. Fuck that game mode though. It's really stupid that you can get BMP's in SQDM.
On December 31 2011 05:21 tokicheese wrote: i cant decide :/ canister shells, hmg or lmg for tanks?
regarding bipod vs the bolt i usually go with the bipod but it is a pain the ass when it goes down by mistake or it refuses to go down... it's mostly preference i would think
for me what i did was go LMG all the way till i unlocked Canister shells.
LMG > HMG imo because of the firerate. HMG fires soooooooo slowwwwwww. Arguements abt HMG higher damage, is negated by just trying to get headshots with the LMG instead. LMG faster rate of fire provides suppression effects, which as a tank is good. you want them to try keep their heads in while you cap a point for example, instead of coming out taking pots shots.
Canister shells are awesome. Its basically a point and kill weapon, as it has no bullet drop to speak of. it practically flies straight until it disappears. It feels like im killing people with my eyes hahaha. I look at infantry, and they drop. It's amazingly good.
My tank usual combo : Proximity Scanner / Zoom Optics / Canisters. If my friend is around: Reactive armor / Zoom optics / canisters
Dont know if anyone had the same issues with an ATI card:
Since the last big patch, Bf3 really didnt feel smooth at all anymore. I always had the feeling it was kind of micro-stuttering (and no, I dont know about the sli/xfire micro-stuttering so I just named it after what it feels like) a bit when moving, turning etc etc and it was annoying like hell. Especially when your gaming suffers that much and you can't figure out what the problem is.
I tried everything, going back to the 11.10 drivers (which made it a bit better), then installing the newest 11.12 as soon as they were realesed but things went worse again. Lowering res, lowering quality overall, nothing worked...
Then I tried the 12.1 preview drivers and wut, the game is back to being awesome again =) And the game is running at stable 47-55fps on my system again! So if anyone got the same issues with the latest bf3 patch, try the 12.1 preview drivers, they are really awesome, and it is funny enough, ati recommends every gamer to install those anyway (but doesnt show em directly on the download site...)
On December 31 2011 07:08 papaz wrote: How much less damage does sniper rifles do with the suppressor?
When is it good to use the suppressor as a recon?
It does less damage to the body afaik, but still 1 hit to the head. It's good if you're in dense bush, like on Caspian
Wrong. Suppressors does not reduce damage at all. It only slows bullet speed, reduce recoil, increase bullet drop and makes you not appear on the mini-map.
And as a recon, suppressor is bad because it dramatically increases bullet drop especially for ranges that a sniper fights at. Do not use a suppressor, your sniper rifle will behave very differently.
Supressors say on the tooltip that they specifically do reduced dmg at long range so unless the tooltip is directly lying to us and someone did testing on it I'm inclined to disagree.
Never ever ever ever ever trust the tooltips. They're always wrong.
In this particular case, the jury's actually still out. Whatever it is that controls the silencer drop off isn't immediately apparent in the game files, so we have to rely on practical testing. We know that silencers reduce bullet velocity to about 2/3rds or less, and we know that it brings the damage-reduction-at-range threshold in by a fair way.
The actual minimum damage doesn't appear to be significantly reduced, though. A couple people have reported it dropping a point or two below the unsuppressed minimum, but that could also be attributed to leg shots from the increased bullet drop. If there is a reduction at all, it's very small. In the order of 17 down to 15 at max range for assault rifles. I haven't seen any numbers on the snipers specifically.
On January 01 2012 22:33 Skullflower wrote: Finally got the L85A2. Was on a good squad and won 4 in a row and then went to one of those 5 kill servers and killed 4 people and won the game. Fuck that game mode though. It's really stupid that you can get BMP's in SQDM.
Oh true that. I had to play like 25 games to get those 5 wins. It's completely luck dependent if you don't have good friends to play with. But that gun is just brutal, i'm using it with a good scope and single shot mode. So good and accurate and with good memories from BF2.
On December 31 2011 05:21 tokicheese wrote: i cant decide :/ canister shells, hmg or lmg for tanks?
regarding bipod vs the bolt i usually go with the bipod but it is a pain the ass when it goes down by mistake or it refuses to go down... it's mostly preference i would think
for me what i did was go LMG all the way till i unlocked Canister shells.
LMG > HMG imo because of the firerate. HMG fires soooooooo slowwwwwww. Arguements abt HMG higher damage, is negated by just trying to get headshots with the LMG instead. LMG faster rate of fire provides suppression effects, which as a tank is good. you want them to try keep their heads in while you cap a point for example, instead of coming out taking pots shots.
Canister shells are awesome. Its basically a point and kill weapon, as it has no bullet drop to speak of. it practically flies straight until it disappears. It feels like im killing people with my eyes hahaha. I look at infantry, and they drop. It's amazingly good.
My tank usual combo : Proximity Scanner / Zoom Optics / Canisters. If my friend is around: Reactive armor / Zoom optics / canisters
The only thing the HMG has for it, is that it doesnt overheat, you can have your finger on the fire button 24/7
still confused about 2 things tho: 1. next recon unlock seems to be the sks . but i already have that gun , whats up with that?
That's for anyone who doesn't have the Physical Warfare Pack, which is what you have already. Therefore, this is a useless unlock for you. The SKS comes with the pack so it is unlocked earlier, but Battlelog still doesn't count it as "earned" through unlocking until you have the necessary experience points.
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