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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 21 2011 03:46 GMT
#7581


VERY helpful video.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 03:58:24
December 21 2011 03:54 GMT
#7582
On December 21 2011 10:24 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 08:37 Hirosh wrote:
On December 21 2011 08:12 Necrophantasia wrote:
Am I missing something or is the recon class a lot harder to play than the others. Sniping takes 3 hits to the torso to generate a kill at an appreciable distance. If you're spotted people with an assault rifle + optical scope can out snipe you.

It also seems to be really hard to generate as many points as the other classes as recon.


a decent sniper will almost always be the point leader. maybe someone tank or gunnerwhoring will be above him. 3 hits? you use semi-automatic then? because with a bolt-action rifle you need 2 torso shots. but it doesn't really matter anyways because as sniper its all about the headshots. I have about 80% headshots with my M98B. and as soon as you headshot someone you get 10 points headshot bonus + marksman bonus which is the distance in points. so for instance a headshot from 450 meters away will give you 560 points (100 for kill, 10 for headshot, 450 marksman)
and yeah getting shots from 50-400 meters should always be headshots on first try.


I guess I'm just bad at the game then. I can't hit people from that far. Getting a headshot while adjusting for bullet drop in a target that's 400m out is quite diificult. Do you have any tips?

Maybe I could hit a stationary target, but hitting moving targets from far away is quite hard.

I also have a ton of trouble actually finding people to shoot at in conquest mode since everyone is do spread across the map.

I guess recon has a higher skill floor then the other 3 classes.


Honestly it's one of those things that you just need to practice and learn naturally how high you need to aim for bullet drop at certain distances.

I was bad at first, by the time I got to the last sniper rifle unlock I was nailing 250m HS on the 1st round with ease, moving targets with ease, granted they weren't zig zagging while trying to blow their head off <.<

With that said. Learning good snipers spots with lots of open space and a natural or manmade funnel for opponents comes with the practice that I mentioned before. Theres lots of good spots on every map but I'm bad at connecting map names and actual maps so I can't really rattle off some good spots :/ without randomly naming spots you would have no clue about.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 21 2011 04:04 GMT
#7583
Wait, people can get 400m headshots consistently?

The fuck?

;-;
Insomniac22
Profile Joined February 2011
United States907 Posts
December 21 2011 05:10 GMT
#7584
Am I the only one who really likes the Sg553 engineer gun?

That thing is a beast :s
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 21 2011 05:47 GMT
#7585
Can someone tell me what to do with this origin crap? I can't join 9/10 games and get just random errors on the battlelog thing saying just "error - cannot connect to server" and "you were disconnected from ea online" and just random errors. this is why i hate this game is because i can't jump into a server and just play. this is the only game that does this to me. i have to keep spamming join on a server until it works.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Graviton
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 06:03:51
December 21 2011 05:57 GMT
#7586
On December 21 2011 09:37 madcow305 wrote:
Also, are there any experienced jet/chopper pilots who can give some tips about how to dominate a game as a solo pilot, without the help of a TV missile gunner?

It is extremely difficult to play effectively in the helicopter against a competent team without some form of communication with your copilot. You need to adapt your combined modifications to the situation at hand each time you re spawn, in addition to being able to coordinate the use of your counter measures. You also need to be communicate with your gunner in order to respond to air threats, whether that be spotting them, or devising an angle of attack/retreat. You also need to be able identify and communicate with your copilot ground targets whether they be mass infantry, tanks, SOFLAMS or AA tanks. I would recommend finding a clan, or at least a group of online friends to play with, in order to optimize your chopper gameplay.

That being said, as a solo pilot, the best thing you can do in order to excel is master your flying, as well as the tactics and strategies that you generally use. You really need a great deal of experience in the vehicle itself in order to really grasp these techniques, but three of the primary areas you have to be competent in is moderating your speed and movement in order to fit the specific situation you're in, developing a good aerial and ground awareness no matter you angle of view, and how to prioritize threats in the order of importance to the team's chances of winning.The numerous techniques that can be applied to specific situations are too myriad to list here but I'll give you my favorite method for taking out AAs without use of the TV or Guided missiles, at least when you aren't a super-experienced pilot.

First of all, you want to locate the AA on the map, preferably marking it. Then, you need to fly low over the terrain, in an area where you are either out of the AA's LoS, or at distance far enough from it where it becomes difficult to accurately hit the helicopter.As you approach it, hide the helicopter behind the largest elevation in the area near it. It is then simply a matter of lifting the helicopter above or to the side of the rise , and releasing a missile and auto cannon salvo. Continue this process until the vehicle is disabled (or until a repair is attempted), where either two things will happen: the driver attempts to repair the vehicle, at which point you move in and kill him and finish the vehicle, or he remains inside it, and you remain behind the cover, and continue the process, or wait it out.
Vanchelon
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 07:28:18
December 21 2011 07:24 GMT
#7587
On December 21 2011 10:24 Necrophantasia wrote:

I guess I'm just bad at the game then. I can't hit people from that far. Getting a headshot while adjusting for bullet drop in a target that's 400m out is quite diificult. Do you have any tips?

Maybe I could hit a stationary target, but hitting moving targets from far away is quite hard.

I also have a ton of trouble actually finding people to shoot at in conquest mode since everyone is do spread across the map.

I guess recon has a higher skill floor then the other 3 classes.


It's a matter of experience, there are no real shortcuts sadly
Bullet drop also varies depending on the gun, with the M98B having the fastest bullet speed and thus lower effective drop over a certain distance.

SV98: 520m/s, bolt time 1.25s
M40: 490m/s, bolt time 1.1s
M98: 650m/s, bolt time 1.3s
L96: 540m/s, bolt time 1.1s

With each of these you have to aim differently past ~100m or so, which can also make it harder to feel like yer getting a hang of it. I would suggest sticking with the L96 or M98B, the latter being my own favourite but I'll be trying out the L96 and the faster reload speed.

As an example of experience giving consistency in accuracy at longer ranges, I'll relink my vid but start it at 1 minute.

[image loading]


Edit: Having some issues getting the vid to appear in the post, so heres the URL
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 21 2011 08:19 GMT
#7588
On December 21 2011 13:04 Fruscainte wrote:
Wait, people can get 400m headshots consistently?

The fuck?

;-;


quoted for truth. haha. my personal furthest headshot is only 500m+ .. my recon usually kill people at around 100-250m range, where bullet drop is limited. after i got my service star on my recon i was so glad to stop being a recon. its boring to the max.

as to the guy on how to hit people, the only thing i can say is practice, and lots of it. each gun has different velocity affecting the bullet drop as mentioned, get a gun you like and stick to it. you will naturally improve, abeit slowly at 1st. i remember grinding my Recon Service star out with the 1st bolt action rifle, because i couldnt handle the new guns(not used to it) and didnt feel like capturing the feel back haha.

I love playing any of the 3 classes,except Recon
Mew Mew Pew Pew
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 08:30:05
December 21 2011 08:29 GMT
#7589
On December 21 2011 12:46 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK3nuUAWcGY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

VERY helpful video.


This video is great. I always thought RPGs are abit buggy, now i know better.


On December 21 2011 14:10 Insomniac22 wrote:
Am I the only one who really likes the Sg553 engineer gun?

That thing is a beast :s


For me the SG553 was a bit of a letdown. I only played the boring coop to get this gun (since its a swiss gun) and when i got it, it somehow felt like the G36C. Add to this that its the only gun i have ever used in real life and was eager to compare it. So i was a bit disapointed, that it doesent sound at all like the real life version.

EDIT: Right after i wrote that i checked the stats and its basicaly the same gun as the G36C. G36C has even a higher ROF and speed although not much.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
December 21 2011 08:45 GMT
#7590
On December 21 2011 17:19 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 13:04 Fruscainte wrote:
Wait, people can get 400m headshots consistently?

The fuck?

;-;


quoted for truth. haha. my personal furthest headshot is only 500m+ .. my recon usually kill people at around 100-250m range, where bullet drop is limited. after i got my service star on my recon i was so glad to stop being a recon. its boring to the max.

as to the guy on how to hit people, the only thing i can say is practice, and lots of it. each gun has different velocity affecting the bullet drop as mentioned, get a gun you like and stick to it. you will naturally improve, abeit slowly at 1st. i remember grinding my Recon Service star out with the 1st bolt action rifle, because i couldnt handle the new guns(not used to it) and didnt feel like capturing the feel back haha.

I love playing any of the 3 classes,except Recon


I know that feeling, hate playing recon too. Now im almost colonel 7 and have only 20% of my first recon servicestar. But last night i wanted to play a bit to finally get some unlocks, so i put a ACOG on my MK11 and gave it a go. I was surprised how much fun (and how effective) sniping can be when you only stay at medium distance to the enemy and keep moving.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
December 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#7591
I always ridicule people that put ballistic scopes on their semi-autos. The only true snipers use bolt action thank you very much. A semi-auto fine with a small scope for short/mid range fight but don't embarrass yourself in front of the whole server by putting a good scope on a semi-auto.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 21 2011 09:08 GMT
#7592
On December 21 2011 17:53 Latham wrote:
I always ridicule people that put ballistic scopes on their semi-autos. The only true snipers use bolt action thank you very much. A semi-auto fine with a small scope for short/mid range fight but don't embarrass yourself in front of the whole server by putting a good scope on a semi-auto.


Haha you have a point. The furthest scope that should be on a semi-auto i feel, is a 4x. should be sufficient to handle at the range your using the semi-auto at. i would run with a holo(1.5x) /3.4x with my semi personally haha.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
December 21 2011 20:45 GMT
#7593
Do you guys know how to choose the traits for vehicles? I'm 100% sure I unlocked the zoom for the tank's main gun but for the love of God I can't find the button to zoom in, so I assume I must have smth else in place and would like to change it.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 21 2011 20:56 GMT
#7594
On December 22 2011 05:45 Latham wrote:
Do you guys know how to choose the traits for vehicles? I'm 100% sure I unlocked the zoom for the tank's main gun but for the love of God I can't find the button to zoom in, so I assume I must have smth else in place and would like to change it.


There should be a vehicles tab next to weapons tab in the customize menu, I'm surprised how many people have trouble finding it. :d

Absolutely in love with MG36 atm, feels more like an assault rifle with huge clip rather than an LMG.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9592 Posts
December 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#7595
Oh man I'm having so much fun with the M16A3. But I can't run with suppressors. I think I have good aim and the -dmg on every shot really kills my feel for a weapon. Laser sight better for spray&pray encounters anyway.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 21 2011 21:04 GMT
#7596
I also found suppressors garbage and unenjoyable, only use them with pistols for the occasional sneaky snake kill but never with main weapon.

Many people seem to think they are mandatory but I rather just go with lower recoil weapons and stay away from suppressors.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
December 21 2011 21:11 GMT
#7597
well a noticeable amount of my kills / prevention of my deaths are from looking at my minimap so suppressor is good imo

not mandatory, but it def is one of the good unlocks
hihihi
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
December 21 2011 21:27 GMT
#7598
Yeah, since the choice is between heavy barrel (hurts autofire accuracy which I use a lot), flash supressor (hurts autofire accuracy), laser sight (gives away my position, I don't hipfire with assault rifles anyways), tac light (gives away position at distances, nerfed) and supressor (shorten my range a bit for less recoil AND hide signs of my presence? yes please!) - I invariably end up using a supressor.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#7599
On December 21 2011 17:53 Latham wrote:
I always ridicule people that put ballistic scopes on their semi-autos. The only true snipers use bolt action thank you very much. A semi-auto fine with a small scope for short/mid range fight but don't embarrass yourself in front of the whole server by putting a good scope on a semi-auto.

I actually love to put small scopes on bolt action snipers on small maps (bazaar, metro and some of the new maps), you don't get spotted right away and you can quickscope people from really close. It might not be the most effective way to play, but it sure is fun.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
December 22 2011 01:13 GMT
#7600
Hey guys I just got the game, and when I play campaign it runs smoothly for a few minutes and then randomly crashes, citing a DirectX error. I can't read the message itself since the crashed game window is blocking it. Any ideas? I googled this issue and I couldn't find any working solutions.

My specs:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2 Ghz
4 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600 Mhz
ATI 4890 HD 1 GB GDDR5
Windows Vista Business SP2 32 bit
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