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On November 07 2011 10:04 Onlinejaguar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 08:53 LaNague wrote:On November 07 2011 08:47 Probe1 wrote:He meant he extrapolates the fact that people are cheating by people being kicked from the server for.. cheatingOn November 07 2011 08:27 LaNague wrote:
how do i play support properly? i get like no points when goion support with machinegun-.- Uh.. step one: set up bipod on the angle no one else is covering. step two: unleash a stream of violent death as soon as anyone walks nearby. Throw ammo bitches love ammo. A tanks ass can only handle two C4 charges. Your life is not as important as a dead tank and one to two other lives is it? Toss toss boom baby. so you camp? :D Yes, i don't know why people hate camping so much. makes more sense then constantly running around like a tard getting gunned down.
I constantly run around and get caps, take out vehicles, and stop people from rotating to other objectives.
The only time I camp is when we have them choked down (or if I'm playing Rush).
If you move smart you won't get gunned down.
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On November 07 2011 08:12 Butcherski wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 06:35 LaNague wrote:
every 2nd match soeone is cheating, this is getting on my nerves. How can you tell someone is cheating ? ATM im using a gun with IR scope and i get accused constantly. So how do you tell ?
I ask myself the same thing. I see people saying hackers here hackers there all the time, but i myself have never seen something in the game that made me think this is 100% a hack. I dont want to say there are no hackers or that you are not able to see them. I just want to know what are the things that give hacking away for shure.
There are two phenomena i observed, that i could imagine, people mistake for hacking. The first one is getting shot behind a wall. But that almost always happens when you run behind cover and die after you are already behind it so its probably a lag issue.
The second i noticed yesterday is when i shot a guy 4 times in the head with single shot, and got 4 hit markers (i had plenty of time because he was looking and shooting in another direction) but he didnt die. Then he turned around shot me and in the killcam i saw he had still 100% life. I thought he was maybe hacking but when i searched his name on the score list i saw that this guy has died 10 times and only shot 3 people so this would be hillarious if he was hacking. Probably it was just a hit detection bug.
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I can't really see "camping" as a bad thing apart for a few situations in BF, sure it's one thing if you're sitting in the corner of the map as a Recon getting a kill once a minute and thats all you contribute but if one has the patience to actually camp and defend a base in Conquest especially I can't see the issue.
Reminded me of this one recon that was in my squad, he spent an entire Conquest round playing Recon and just crawling across the map, he stayed prone even near our main base. He didn't get a single kill and barely any points but died a few times. Looked like he was playing his very own sniper simulation or something.
Also am I the only one that has always thought that the score bonus for ranged headshots is dumb and kind a against rest of the teamplay oriented style of Battlefields? I guess it's the only way for Recons to get decent scores but everything else that you get score from somehow contributes to the team effort. You could say that if you're at sniper ranges taking those headshot bonuses you won't die much and due to that reduce the tickets of your team but thats a long shot.
Or maybe I'm just jealous because I can't headshot moving targets from range with bolt action rifles...
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Did any of you play 1942? Camping is more like when you sit next to a grenade box and just keep lobbing them in for the whole game. Right place right time is different.
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On November 07 2011 10:26 altered wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 08:12 Butcherski wrote:On November 07 2011 06:35 LaNague wrote:
every 2nd match soeone is cheating, this is getting on my nerves. How can you tell someone is cheating ? ATM im using a gun with IR scope and i get accused constantly. So how do you tell ? I ask myself the same thing. I see people saying hackers here hackers there all the time, but i myself have never seen something in the game that made me think this is 100% a hack. I dont want to say there are no hackers or that you are not able to see them. I just want to know what are the things that give hacking away for shure. There are two phenomena i observed, that i could imagine, people mistake for hacking. The first one is getting shot behind a wall. But that almost always happens when you run behind cover and die after you are already behind it so its probably a lag issue. The second i noticed yesterday is when i shot a guy 4 times in the head with single shot, and got 4 hit markers (i had plenty of time because he was looking and shooting in another direction) but he didnt die. Then he turned around shot me and in the killcam i saw he had still 100% life. I thought he was maybe hacking but when i searched his name on the score list i saw that this guy has died 10 times and only shot 3 people so this would be hillarious if he was hacking. Probably it was just a hit detection bug.
Are you a naive 10 year old?
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well, some hackers just have plain stupid scores like 60-3.
others have a less obious version, but when i see someone running in an ambush of 3 people and he shoots them all down seperately while still in his "jump over wall" animation, i call hack. If hes a Quake 3 proplayer, he will get over the false accusation.
But also, there are a lot of angry people out there that just shout "hacker" because they are even more horrible than i am.
I just have a hard time with recon and support because i normally run around flanking the enemy and taking out objectives special forces style. especially with recon i find myself rather useless and normally end up taking a shotgun. With support i can see the value of a niceley setup MG, but i personally just end up getting sniped or stabbed in the back.
Oh and on the topic of cheating, does anybody know why my tank today simply exploded in 1 shot and the killer was a vodnik van? Or the one time where i died inside the tank and killer was "bad luck". Both happened in the same game on peaks and lost us the game.
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i have 59 anti-explosive ribbons
i drive tanks a lot 
(bitches always tryin to blow me) (up)
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Stupid scores are really common in BF3 because of vehicles. It's entirely possible to go 60-3 if you're part of a really good chopper team and nobody on the other side knows how to deal with that.
I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think someone is really hacking.
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how does the skill rating work? Just seems to swing drastically from game to game.
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How do you get an Infered scope? saw someone talk about it earlier but cant find post again.
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So which of these 10,000 TL clans is legit? lol
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Most guns unlock the IRNV infrared scope around 100/125 kills.
Why are you guys talking about camping and running like they're mutually exclusive? During a game on Bazaar, Tehran- medium size maps I change the tempo and direction of what I'm doing frequently. Of course camping B on Caspian is silly and running ape shit crazy on metro is going to get you killed.
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On November 07 2011 11:43 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:i have 59 anti-explosive ribbons i drive tanks a lot (bitches always tryin to blow me) (up)
Don't ya love that thermal optic scope.
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On November 07 2011 12:38 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 11:43 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:i have 59 anti-explosive ribbons i drive tanks a lot (bitches always tryin to blow me) (up) Don't ya love that thermal optic scope.
they stick out like a sore thumb
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I don't know if anyone really has hard numbers on the skill rating; at the start of BC2 it was bugged, to the point where people's scores seemed completely random. That might still be the case.
Eventually, I believe it's supposed to use an ELO-type ranking a little like the SC2 ladder, where if you kill someone you get points based on the difference between your "MMRs". That seems a little odd though, as an ELO system completely ignores objectives etc, which are such a large part of battlefield I'd be surprised if they were left off.
And the IR scopes are just unlocked by killing an awful lot of people with the weapon in question.
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Oh i see now, i am 24 kills away from getting it for my SV98. I am so bad at this game though, the last shooter game i played was like starfox for gamecube 172 kills 467 deaths  gotta work on my anti-death skillz.
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Don't worry about it. Kills are merely a byproduct of what you're attempting to achieve: Taking and holding points or attacking/defending MCOMs.
Unless you are one of the rare few that play TDM
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On November 07 2011 11:22 LaNague wrote:
Oh and on the topic of cheating, does anybody know why my tank today simply exploded in 1 shot and the killer was a vodnik van? Or the one time where i died inside the tank and killer was "bad luck". Both happened in the same game on peaks and lost us the game.
The first one was bc of mines. For some reason, if the engineer that put them down is in a vehicle when they kill someone, it shows the vehicle as killinstrument instead of the mine. If they are om foot it will say mine properly.
Second one idk 
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On November 07 2011 07:35 Brett wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 07:04 Fragile51 wrote:On November 07 2011 05:25 TunaBarrett wrote:
So i cant understand all the hype behind the scar-h, cant get over the insane recoil.
Why does everyone think its great? It can literally outperform anything save for shotguns at close range while still holding their own at range. They are fucking insane x_x They become a lot better with a foregrip though.A nerf is well deserved at this point, they make engineers better v infantry then assaults actually are, which is kinda bizarre. This. It's stupid as all hell to play an assault class (read: anti-infantry), and get outgunned by an engineer at close to mid range... SCAR + Grip + laser sight basically reduces the recoil to a very managable level and when combined with its damage output the gun is fucking strong; the small clip is irrelevant when everything drops in 4-6 bullets..
I am so glad I am not the only one who feels the gun is to strong 
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