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loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
July 27 2013 19:05 GMT
#11181
On July 28 2013 03:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
My rig is: Phenom II x4 Black 365 3.4ghz
ATI 5850 HD
1920x1080 resolution
8 gigs of ram


I get like 15 FPS if I use that ENB, if I take it off, I get 32 to 20


Probably your gpu pulling it down.
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
July 27 2013 19:11 GMT
#11182
Mine is
I5 3570k
GTX 660ti
8gb 1600mhz

45 fps on whiterun
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#11183
Yeah, probably just nothing I can do about that...
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
July 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#11184
On July 28 2013 03:26 Craze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 00:39 akatama wrote:
God damn it can someone help me a bit? Getting constant CTDs only a few hours in, despite a fresh install. Load order in spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ArmedttTeeth.esm
SPIKE.esm
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
randomthunder.esp
Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp
Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
RPChoppingAndMining.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
AttTWeapons 1.esp
AttTWeapons 3.esp
AttTWeapons 2.esp
AttTStaff.esp
Cloaks.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliersDawnguard.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp
DaedricWOP.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
More Salt Please.esp
More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
torches for RL (default life time).esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Beards.esp
3DNPC.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Requiem.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.esp
Requiem - Rebalanced potions weight.esp
Requiem - Dragonborn.esp
Requiem - Falskaar.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Requiem - SIC Patch.esp
RequiemDB - SIC Patch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp


Edit: my latest quick save CTD's moments after it loads.

Edit 2: hmm so far the ENB seems to be the problem...
Does anyone know a good ENB that makes dungeons and other interiors darker? I used to use SuperbENB-RL, but it is no longer available on the Nexus, and the one I was using for a few days caused CTD's...


You've got some really old unsupported mods on there. Hothtrooper's armor compilation became Immersive Armor and Immersive Weapons (two seperate mods) a long time ago. Better Quest Objectives conflicts with Falskaar supposedly, as does Guard Dialogue Overhaul. Warmer magic lights and Realistic Lighting may be conflicting, I haven't used WML as I find it redundant if you have a decent ENB.

Armed to the Teeth and Dual Sheath Redux may conflict.

The good news is it should be fairly easy to troubleshoot which mod is causing the problem by just turning off a couple at a time and then trying to load a game (just uncheck in your load order). Your latest save may be corrupted, this happens all the time unfortunately. So save often! I changed my autosave options so that it does so every 5 minutes. In addition to my quick save I always have a save that I can revert to.


hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation was contained in the Immersive Armors archive. Falskaar is a new addition, I haven't even started it yet. I use WML mostly for the increased light radius, since I like very dark dungeons (most of the time a simple Night Vision spell is not enough). ATTT is gone though, since it sort of conflicts with Requiem's "no armor change in combat" feature, plus I spend 90% of the time in 1st person view so it does basically nothing.

Not really sure about what ENB to use though, all that I've tried lower my fps to the low 20ies.
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
July 27 2013 19:45 GMT
#11185
Ah, you're going to struggle with an ENB with a 5850, that's the same card I used to run with. When I had that I opted for RCRN rather than a straight ENB. Name of the program is "realistic colors and real nights" and it is much less performance hungry.

You may also want to cut down on your resolution to a 1680x1050 or something along those lines. The gameplay will become much more enjoyable, especially in combat.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 27 2013 19:47 GMT
#11186
Should I turn off this other shader thing?

I don't like anything that makes the nights too dark
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 19:53:30
July 27 2013 19:48 GMT
#11187
On July 27 2013 14:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
This ENB looks like it'd take a heavy hit on my PC, does it take a lot of configuring to get the right settings? I have a lot of other graphical and lighting mods such as stronger lanterns and such.

http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=822

This is the FX Enhancer.



No; turn off SSA and Depth of Field and you get an easy 15-30 frames increase. Depth of Field is mostly annoying anyways and isn't done right by ENB, and the SSAO is very inefficient because of the way it's applied to shadows in Skyrim (and how many shadows Skyrim draws).


Most ENBs mess around with some of the lighting, shaders, and a few different other things. The two things that kill frames in ENB are SSAO and Depth of Field, neither which are necessary to get better visuals from ENB. Disable AA and you can also get another 10 frames or so depending on how high you had it. Turn down some filtering and you can even get more frames, while still maintaining some benefits.
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
July 27 2013 19:51 GMT
#11188
On July 28 2013 04:22 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 03:26 Craze wrote:
On July 28 2013 00:39 akatama wrote:
God damn it can someone help me a bit? Getting constant CTDs only a few hours in, despite a fresh install. Load order in spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ArmedttTeeth.esm
SPIKE.esm
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
randomthunder.esp
Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp
Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
RPChoppingAndMining.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
AttTWeapons 1.esp
AttTWeapons 3.esp
AttTWeapons 2.esp
AttTStaff.esp
Cloaks.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliersDawnguard.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp
DaedricWOP.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
More Salt Please.esp
More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
torches for RL (default life time).esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Beards.esp
3DNPC.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Requiem.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.esp
Requiem - Rebalanced potions weight.esp
Requiem - Dragonborn.esp
Requiem - Falskaar.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Requiem - SIC Patch.esp
RequiemDB - SIC Patch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp


Edit: my latest quick save CTD's moments after it loads.

Edit 2: hmm so far the ENB seems to be the problem...
Does anyone know a good ENB that makes dungeons and other interiors darker? I used to use SuperbENB-RL, but it is no longer available on the Nexus, and the one I was using for a few days caused CTD's...


You've got some really old unsupported mods on there. Hothtrooper's armor compilation became Immersive Armor and Immersive Weapons (two seperate mods) a long time ago. Better Quest Objectives conflicts with Falskaar supposedly, as does Guard Dialogue Overhaul. Warmer magic lights and Realistic Lighting may be conflicting, I haven't used WML as I find it redundant if you have a decent ENB.

Armed to the Teeth and Dual Sheath Redux may conflict.

The good news is it should be fairly easy to troubleshoot which mod is causing the problem by just turning off a couple at a time and then trying to load a game (just uncheck in your load order). Your latest save may be corrupted, this happens all the time unfortunately. So save often! I changed my autosave options so that it does so every 5 minutes. In addition to my quick save I always have a save that I can revert to.


hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation was contained in the Immersive Armors archive. Falskaar is a new addition, I haven't even started it yet. I use WML mostly for the increased light radius, since I like very dark dungeons (most of the time a simple Night Vision spell is not enough). ATTT is gone though, since it sort of conflicts with Requiem's "no armor change in combat" feature, plus I spend 90% of the time in 1st person view so it does basically nothing.

Not really sure about what ENB to use though, all that I've tried lower my fps to the low 20ies.


If you use nightvision spell's than you won't want an ENB, as most disable the nightvision effect - they do however make torch use look fantastic.

As I said earlier, lowering the resolution a little bit and using an ENB will still be a massive improvement over 1920x1080 without an ENB. It's your call though, you may want to check out RCRN as well

ATTK Powerloader also usually improves framerate by 5 or so, the shareware version for Skyrim is free.
ATTK Power Loader
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 29 2013 21:14 GMT
#11189
Does anyone know if the Portal mod conflicts with any other mods? It crashes my game when I get near, it didn't before and I haven't chnaged anything besides removing a ENB
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
August 02 2013 17:10 GMT
#11190
A gameplay presentation of TES: Online is set to start at 12:30 central, live from quakecon.

http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 03 2013 07:15 GMT
#11191
The S.T.E.P. guide to modding / using an ENB is really fucking extensive. Like wow. Glad I checked out this thread and saw that you could use an ENB just by dropping the right file from ENBSeries and downloading it similar to a normal mod. The S.T.E.P. wiki guide is totally min/maxing. Which is great and all, a good resource. But man, I just wanted to try Skyrim out on a new rig with some nicer stuff I couldn't use before and it was so overwhelming it knocked me outta my chair.
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
August 03 2013 07:42 GMT
#11192
On August 03 2013 16:15 Duka08 wrote:
The S.T.E.P. guide to modding / using an ENB is really fucking extensive. Like wow. Glad I checked out this thread and saw that you could use an ENB just by dropping the right file from ENBSeries and downloading it similar to a normal mod. The S.T.E.P. wiki guide is totally min/maxing. Which is great and all, a good resource. But man, I just wanted to try Skyrim out on a new rig with some nicer stuff I couldn't use before and it was so overwhelming it knocked me outta my chair.


Agreed, every time a new ENB came out I would go "oh cool I'm going to give this a try!" Then I would read the STEP guide and just alt f4, cbf.

Ty to whoever on this thread gave a quick guide on how to get ENB running without all the bs.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 03 2013 18:14 GMT
#11193
Anyone more experienced recommend an ENB that would give me good performance (capped at 60 FPS) with an i5, 16 gigs of RAM, and a GTX 660 Ti?

I'm getting the 660Ti soon (built with an older card temporarily). I moreso want to get a different, more cinematic look from an ENB rather than a massive quality upgrade. I've tried SkyRealism [Cinematic] and RealVision, and they both seem great. I'm just hovering in the 20-40fps range with my current card. My preference is for quantity over quality when it comes to frames. Will either or both of these cap with the 660? Or will I still need to aim to use an ENB that's designed with performance in mind?
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 18:21:38
August 03 2013 18:21 GMT
#11194
I have a GTX 660ti, and I got 30-45 FPS on whiterun with SkyRealism ENB

EDIT: and I5 3570k
Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
August 03 2013 18:51 GMT
#11195
I tried alot of ENBs and http://www.skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/30936 is my favorite. Good performance and looks great. No to crazy DoF, Saturating etc...
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 18:55:11
August 03 2013 18:53 GMT
#11196
On August 04 2013 03:21 OoFuzer wrote:
I have a GTX 660ti, and I got 30-45 FPS on whiterun with SkyRealism ENB

EDIT: and I5 3570k



Interesting. That's the same CPU I'm running now, but I'm getting similar numbers using a 560 Ti that's about 2 yrs old now.... Well, 30-45 is unfair, but consistently 30 (in Whiterun) in "busy" directions, never dropping below 25ish and only that low for brief moments. It'd be a shame if I didn't get much more out of a brand new 660 Ti!

Do you have any other graphical mods that would cause increased strain? Besides 2K textures and Climates of Tamriel I assume?

Also, while I'm at it... Most ENB's come with an enblocal.ini file, but what if I want to use this?:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/38649
Do I overwrite the one that actually came with the ENB I'm using?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 10 2013 14:34 GMT
#11197
Any worthy mods?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 10 2013 14:50 GMT
#11198
torte de lini if u wanna play with enb with that kind of setup u should take a look at the performance version of realvision enb with climates of tamriel and realistic lighting overhaul i think its now version 2.2a (enb 200) it has some nice performance improvements (since enb 198) and u need to take a look at the enblocal.ini for the memory settings to set it for yourself.

besides that a few enbs currently out with good performance, miles ahead of the old enbs such as sharpshooter cuz boris (the developer of enb) had some breakthrou with stuff.

other enbs that are good and not that performance heavy are hrk enb (released recently) and E enb (currently using myself)

options that could be tweaked in your enb files in enbeffect.ini is stuff like ssao and dof, both turned off can improve fps drastically.

for less stuttering with enbs it is adviced to set a fps limit value. for example i can run enbs at like 45 / 60 fps depending on location but it feels stuttery, with fps limit value set to 33 it has stable fps and runs smoothly without stuttering.

If nothing helps and ENB still has bad fps for u its not the end of the world, there is a solution for that, u will lack godrays from enb as i ve not seen it anywhere being available without enb but anything else u can get for way less performance hit for nearly the same quality (well...) so if anything with enb goes badly take a look at

Ultimate Lighting Overhaul http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/37846/?tab=1&navtag=/ajax/moddescription/?id=37846&preview=&pUp=1
dynavision for the depth of field effect without a noticable performance hit http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12525//?
imaginator for getting the colours vibrant as in any enb http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13049//?
and then u ve to look at stuff like dramatic clouds, better nebula etc to get the sky and stuff going, also take a look at skyrimgems.com and use BOSS for loading order
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 10 2013 15:05 GMT
#11199
On August 10 2013 23:34 Disregard wrote:
Any worthy mods?



I'm quoting myself from some pages ago.


On March 28 2013 23:04 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 21:46 rapture wrote:
Could you recommend any usefull Mods for somebody that just purchased Skyrim?


First things first, go here and download the nexus mod manager. With it you can easily add/remove mods.
Some mods require to be run by a custom exe file, learn how to install this here.
I assume you have all the official dlcs, hearthfire, dawnguard and dragonborn. If not get them.

Now, the mods.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4929 *A quality world map - high res map which shows roads between towns*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4929 *Balanced magic mod - revamps magic system*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/8003 *Complete crafting overhaul - self explanatory*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/4719 *Weapons and armor fixes - fixes stats, skins etc*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/3863 *SkyUI - the single most important mod, it fixes the terrible inventory system*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/607 *Skyrim HD - upgrades most testures to high quality*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27644 *Immersive weapons - gives a shitload of new lore friendly weapons*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19733 *Immersive armors - gives a shitload of new lore friendly armors*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16225 *Apocalypse spell package - gives a shitload of new spells*

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/10168 *ApachiiSkyHair - awesome hairstyles

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/5485 *Deadly combat - changes some aspects of the vanilla combat, awesome

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/33292 *Unique uniques - uniques with proper stats and custom textures

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6047 *Smithing perks overhaul - self explanatory

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/30 *No more blocky faces - vanilla faces look UGLY

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/7887 *Pretty face - and this makes them even prettier


These mods I don't see myself playing ever without. I recommend all of them.

Then it's up to you to dig in and get whatever you like.
Pro tip : search the mods by categories and sort the results out via endorsements. You will find all the great mods ez this way.

My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 10 2013 17:58 GMT
#11200
Thanks, just what I was looking for. Haven't touched Skyrim for almost a year, still see some of the mods that I've used before.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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