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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:57:04
December 05 2011 16:56 GMT
#8901
Edit: Please ignore
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
December 05 2011 16:57 GMT
#8902
Yea, all my perks are in sneaking, archery, smithing and speechcraft so far.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 16:59:39
December 05 2011 16:57 GMT
#8903
On December 06 2011 01:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 01:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
time to start 2 handed, or block?


Whats fun about those? Block or two-handed means reequiping and Im already doing Archery and the one-hand + heal set.

Master of any weapon, great for RP.


RP?


Roleplay

Conjuration is siqq btw, killed a dragon priest while I am only level 23.
And yeah, dragons take like 0 dmg from my bow on my rogue/assasin character, I end up pulling my dagger/swords and just slice him and dice him.

Archery is only really good if you have an insane bow or abuse the whole shoot arrow and resneak thing.

well either that or you let a companion/summon tank the shit for you.
WriterXiao8~~
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#8904
Nah, I'm playing on master level 46 and I only use re-sneak with melee weapons. I'm using the Nightingale Bow for like 10 levels now and with Archery perks, I can kill an ass load of things. Moving faster with bow drawn perk is pretty key for kiting. You just have to use Archery like an Archer - sitting there throwing shit at someone isn't going to work at higher levels/difficulties.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
eodynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:04:12
December 05 2011 17:03 GMT
#8905
nevermind. How did you guys post so much in 5 sec?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 05 2011 17:38 GMT
#8906
archery relies on perks to do well, without perks you're like a little boy with a slingshot trying to take bring down rock formations.
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 17:43:20
December 05 2011 17:41 GMT
#8907
On December 06 2011 01:57 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 01:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
time to start 2 handed, or block?


Whats fun about those? Block or two-handed means reequiping and Im already doing Archery and the one-hand + heal set.

Master of any weapon, great for RP.


RP?


Roleplay

Conjuration is siqq btw, killed a dragon priest while I am only level 23.
And yeah, dragons take like 0 dmg from my bow on my rogue/assasin character, I end up pulling my dagger/swords and just slice him and dice him.

Archery is only really good if you have an insane bow or abuse the whole shoot arrow and resneak thing.

well either that or you let a companion/summon tank the shit for you.


If using berserker rage and bow damage items, it becomes real high real quickly. Furthermore, you can get 3.0x multiplier with sneak pearks on your first arrow.

The issue with the bow is that it fowllows a rigid trajectory and the rate of fire is slow at first.

The most damaging things are sneak with a dagger (30.0x multiplier with DB items) or to simply go with berserker rage (orc racial ability for 2.0x damage) and dual wield perks.

No matter your level, you will kill stuff, just about anything in less than 3 seconds.

By the way, does anyone know if the redguard racial attack speed stacks with the shout speed? I was thinking of trying a dual wield redguard.
Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 05 2011 17:58 GMT
#8908
How is a rigid trajectory an issue. If it weren't rigid, how are you going to consistently hit?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
December 05 2011 18:00 GMT
#8909
Has anybody received a second letter from faendal? In one of my playthroughs i killed a whole bunch of people in riverwood and was approached by a courier afterwards with a letter from faendal stating he had a proposition for me and he didn't care about me killing everyone. I couldn't find him at the time and have reloaded an older save and saved over since, i've attempted to get the letter again by slaughtering the people again but to no avail.

Is there anybody at all who knows what faendal wanted with me at that time? I can't seem to find any mention of this anywhere on the net so i thought i'd enquire here.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 05 2011 18:05 GMT
#8910
he wants you to kill Sven I'd suppose. Because when you do that he sends you a letter thanking you for killing him
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 19:04:12
December 05 2011 19:03 GMT
#8911
On December 06 2011 02:58 lynx.oblige wrote:
How is a rigid trajectory an issue. If it weren't rigid, how are you going to consistently hit?


No issue there I don't think. I wish there were bigger penalties and bonuses for hitting enemies in vulnerable areas.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 05 2011 19:06 GMT
#8912
On December 06 2011 04:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 02:58 lynx.oblige wrote:
How is a rigid trajectory an issue. If it weren't rigid, how are you going to consistently hit?


No issue there I don't think. I wish there were bigger penalties and bonuses for hitting enemies in vulnerable areas.


You crit if you hit in the head if i remember correctly.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 19:07:41
December 05 2011 19:07 GMT
#8913
On December 06 2011 04:06 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 04:03 Zorkmid wrote:
On December 06 2011 02:58 lynx.oblige wrote:
How is a rigid trajectory an issue. If it weren't rigid, how are you going to consistently hit?


No issue there I don't think. I wish there were bigger penalties and bonuses for hitting enemies in vulnerable areas.


You crit if you hit in the head if i remember correctly.


Nope, not everytime. And u can crit hitting anywhere.
Liph
Profile Joined April 2011
United States151 Posts
December 05 2011 19:47 GMT
#8914
I need some help with some tips for a new Orc 2 handed warrior class. Ive started and will only play master difficulty. I plan to use as little magic as possible, but Im not opposed to leveling Magic spells to level up quicker. Should I invest in blocking for 2handers as well. Any armor type I should get asap? Should I bother with sneaking. Going heavy armor.
"You Miss 100% of the Shots You Don't Take - Wayne Gretsky" Michael Gary Scott
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
December 05 2011 20:02 GMT
#8915
Heavy Armor and Sneaking don't really work that well together. Blocking is essential with 2h and IMO power bash is a necessity. Bash will probably be your most important maneuver in combat too. Sweep is nice. 2h is mostly the balance between offense and defense, IMO. Pure offense is dual wielding, obviously, with sword/shield being a more defensive way. 2h lets you block but you still have pretty hard hitting attacks and AoE.

Not sure which follower you should go with, gut says a mage of some sort. Chick from the Azura's Star quest should work decently. Make sure to dismiss her and disable/enable her via consoles before reinviting her every 5 or 10 levels just to keep her current, as the game still doesn't scale followers properly in the vast majority of cases.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 20:38:39
December 05 2011 20:10 GMT
#8916
On December 06 2011 02:41 StatX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 01:57 Kipsate wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
time to start 2 handed, or block?


Whats fun about those? Block or two-handed means reequiping and Im already doing Archery and the one-hand + heal set.

Master of any weapon, great for RP.


RP?


Roleplay

Conjuration is siqq btw, killed a dragon priest while I am only level 23.
And yeah, dragons take like 0 dmg from my bow on my rogue/assasin character, I end up pulling my dagger/swords and just slice him and dice him.

Archery is only really good if you have an insane bow or abuse the whole shoot arrow and resneak thing.

well either that or you let a companion/summon tank the shit for you.


If using berserker rage and bow damage items, it becomes real high real quickly. Furthermore, you can get 3.0x multiplier with sneak pearks on your first arrow.

The issue with the bow is that it fowllows a rigid trajectory and the rate of fire is slow at first.

The most damaging things are sneak with a dagger (30.0x multiplier with DB items) or to simply go with berserker rage (orc racial ability for 2.0x damage) and dual wield perks.

No matter your level, you will kill stuff, just about anything in less than 3 seconds.

By the way, does anyone know if the redguard racial attack speed stacks with the shout speed? I was thinking of trying a dual wield redguard.


The redguard racial doesn't increase attack speed. It multiplies stamina regeneration 10x for 60 seconds, once a day, like histskin for health and highborn for magicka.

Speaking of the elemental fury shout, has anyone else had the bug where attempting to use it with an enchanted weapon equipped causes it to say "this weapon is already enchanted"? This IS a bug, right?
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 05 2011 20:44 GMT
#8917
On December 06 2011 05:10 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 02:41 StatX wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:57 Kipsate wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
time to start 2 handed, or block?


Whats fun about those? Block or two-handed means reequiping and Im already doing Archery and the one-hand + heal set.

Master of any weapon, great for RP.


RP?


Roleplay

Conjuration is siqq btw, killed a dragon priest while I am only level 23.
And yeah, dragons take like 0 dmg from my bow on my rogue/assasin character, I end up pulling my dagger/swords and just slice him and dice him.

Archery is only really good if you have an insane bow or abuse the whole shoot arrow and resneak thing.

well either that or you let a companion/summon tank the shit for you.


If using berserker rage and bow damage items, it becomes real high real quickly. Furthermore, you can get 3.0x multiplier with sneak pearks on your first arrow.

The issue with the bow is that it fowllows a rigid trajectory and the rate of fire is slow at first.

The most damaging things are sneak with a dagger (30.0x multiplier with DB items) or to simply go with berserker rage (orc racial ability for 2.0x damage) and dual wield perks.

No matter your level, you will kill stuff, just about anything in less than 3 seconds.

By the way, does anyone know if the redguard racial attack speed stacks with the shout speed? I was thinking of trying a dual wield redguard.


The redguard racial doesn't increase attack speed. It multiplies stamina regeneration 10x for 60 seconds, once a day, like histskin for health and highborn for magicka.

Speaking of the elemental fury shout, has anyone else had the bug where attempting to use it with an enchanted weapon equipped causes it to say "this weapon is already enchanted"? This IS a bug, right?

Bug or not, it definitely won't work with enchanted weapons (even with double-enchant perk) and it's pretty well agreed upon that unenchanted weapons are better for dps for this reason (when combined with this shout of course). Hopefully it's a bug and they'll fix it
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 21:11:33
December 05 2011 21:00 GMT
#8918
On December 06 2011 02:41 StatX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 01:57 Kipsate wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 06 2011 01:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
time to start 2 handed, or block?


Whats fun about those? Block or two-handed means reequiping and Im already doing Archery and the one-hand + heal set.

Master of any weapon, great for RP.


RP?


Roleplay

Conjuration is siqq btw, killed a dragon priest while I am only level 23.
And yeah, dragons take like 0 dmg from my bow on my rogue/assasin character, I end up pulling my dagger/swords and just slice him and dice him.

Archery is only really good if you have an insane bow or abuse the whole shoot arrow and resneak thing.

well either that or you let a companion/summon tank the shit for you.


If using berserker rage and bow damage items, it becomes real high real quickly. Furthermore, you can get 3.0x multiplier with sneak pearks on your first arrow.

The issue with the bow is that it fowllows a rigid trajectory and the rate of fire is slow at first.

The most damaging things are sneak with a dagger (30.0x multiplier with DB items) or to simply go with berserker rage (orc racial ability for 2.0x damage) and dual wield perks.

No matter your level, you will kill stuff, just about anything in less than 3 seconds.

By the way, does anyone know if the redguard racial attack speed stacks with the shout speed? I was thinking of trying a dual wield redguard.


currently playing a now lvl 35 i think female redguard sneak archer / dualwield. great fun if you dont abuse and dualwield power attacks are MAD strong.+ Show Spoiler +
with upgraded chillrend and nightingale blade it took me like 8 seconds to rush down the last blood dragon i met. once he landed he was sliced meat. and this is BEFORE the 50% more dmg on dualwield power attacks since atm im just at like 67 one handed... on master ofc.


/edit forgot to mention that i also used lvl 2 mark for death. which helps quite some ~~ so far my favourite shout together with blasting enemys of bridges etc with the force shout.

On December 06 2011 04:47 Liph wrote:
I need some help with some tips for a new Orc 2 handed warrior class. Ive started and will only play master difficulty. I plan to use as little magic as possible, but Im not opposed to leveling Magic spells to level up quicker. Should I invest in blocking for 2handers as well. Any armor type I should get asap? Should I bother with sneaking. Going heavy armor.


orcs dont sneak! sneak is amazing in this game. but doesnt go too well with heavy armor esp at the beginning(without proper gear and perks). also pretty much all stealth gear you get for quests is light armor.

could recommend board and sword as a 2nd option when your 2handing doesnt cut it in a situation. i found shields quite entertaining and looking at the perks very very powerful. just doesnt fit my char very well, but with proper blocking and dodging you can beat enemys that with plain smashing would totally destroy you.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 05 2011 21:17 GMT
#8919
On December 06 2011 04:47 Liph wrote:
I need some help with some tips for a new Orc 2 handed warrior class. Ive started and will only play master difficulty. I plan to use as little magic as possible, but Im not opposed to leveling Magic spells to level up quicker. Should I invest in blocking for 2handers as well. Any armor type I should get asap? Should I bother with sneaking. Going heavy armor.



the slow time perk in blocking is nice. I didnt bother to level increaased blocking beyond 10% yet, i dont think 5% for 2 handers is worth much.
i have a swordmaster orc myself and at 30 right now i havent gotten enough perks to spend outside of heavy armor/block/smith/2h. a few points in healing are nice just to decrease downtimes.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 21:31:06
December 05 2011 21:30 GMT
#8920
So, if I failed to retrieve the Stone of Barenziah from Astrid's room before + Show Spoiler +
the Dark Brotherhood catastrophe
am I fucked?
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