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BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
June 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#221
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#222
On May 20 2011 07:05 Fruscainte wrote:
[image loading]

I'm beyond hating on this game.

This is just disappointing. It's flat out sad that this is what they have turned into.

Lol some people are so easy to troll. Obvious fake is obvious.

Welcome to the internet guys!
Off-season = best season
Sceptor87
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada266 Posts
June 08 2011 23:35 GMT
#223
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.

If I heard right during the livestream that was done earlier today it's supposed to be the entire Quarian fleet in orbit. And the Quarian migrant fleet is supposed to consist of about 50,000 ships. Plus the entire battle wasn't shown. They're probably not going to spoil a fairly large set-piece like that.
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Goliathsorrow
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy317 Posts
June 08 2011 23:45 GMT
#224
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.

That was my thought in the E3 thread.

I have a bad feeling about how are we supposed to kill the Repears...

It took a fleet to kill one of them in ME1
There are dozens and dozens on them, if not more.
There can't be enough fleets available.

They might end up with the classical cheesy move where you infiltrate/attack one core thing/unit and, for some reason, it's enough to provoke a chain reaction that kills all the Repears.

The Kinect thing seems a bit complicated to be put in the game so that is probably much less effort towards more important stuff and that is obviously bad imo.

And by the way (I didn't read all the infos and fan reactions yet so...) did you notice those soldiers that shepard face in the trailer and gameplay ? They seem like 90% Batarians to me, which would explain why they put DLC Arrival and the fact that you cannot choose to not kill the Batarians (which would make them angry enough to join the Repears as indocrinated I guess ?).



Sceptor87
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada266 Posts
June 09 2011 20:01 GMT
#225
On June 09 2011 08:45 Goliathsorrow wrote:And by the way (I didn't read all the infos and fan reactions yet so...) did you notice those soldiers that shepard face in the trailer and gameplay ? They seem like 90% Batarians to me, which would explain why they put DLC Arrival and the fact that you cannot choose to not kill the Batarians (which would make them angry enough to join the Repears as indocrinated I guess ?).

The soldiers in white armor are indoctrinated Cerberus, so they'll all be humans since Cerberus is supposed to be human only.

However the things that look like Husks that you see during the Earth sequence, only bigger, are called Cannibals. They're supposed to be Batarians that got turned on the way to Earth, just like Husks are to humans.
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Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
June 10 2011 12:59 GMT
#226
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.


I strongly agree, this has been my main concern about the game.

3rd episodes in trilogies often disappoint, because the first two have built up to a climax that doesnt pay off. In this case, having the mystery and awesomeness of the Reapers ruined would be a way that can happen. They've wiped out countless intergalactic civilizations so Bioware had better convince me they're something actually capable of doing that.
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
June 10 2011 13:03 GMT
#227
On May 07 2011 04:49 kef wrote:
All I know is that I just spent the entirety of ME2 getting a team together, and if I have to spend half of ME3 getting a new team I'm gonna abandon Earth to the Reapers... that'll teach EA's descendents.


So far everything indicates that ME3 will be recruiting other civilizations to come to the aid of Earth rather then recruiting party members.

Just hope the things you have to do to convince them to help dont feel contrived and that the game mantains a sense of urgency. Be pretty stupid if you're carrying out courier missions across the galaxy to win over allies while Earth is getting vaporized.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#228
What range of months can we hope for ME3 to come out?
Gonna have to replay through the others to get a decent save before that
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
June 12 2011 11:49 GMT
#229
On June 10 2011 21:59 Spitfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.


I strongly agree, this has been my main concern about the game.

3rd episodes in trilogies often disappoint, because the first two have built up to a climax that doesnt pay off. In this case, having the mystery and awesomeness of the Reapers ruined would be a way that can happen. They've wiped out countless intergalactic civilizations so Bioware had better convince me they're something actually capable of doing that.


I also agree. I don't see how a Reaper defeat is possible without a deus ex machina. The Mass Effect team is talented though, just because I can't think of something good doesn't mean that they can't either.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
June 12 2011 11:54 GMT
#230
On June 12 2011 20:49 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 21:59 Spitfire wrote:
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.


I strongly agree, this has been my main concern about the game.

3rd episodes in trilogies often disappoint, because the first two have built up to a climax that doesnt pay off. In this case, having the mystery and awesomeness of the Reapers ruined would be a way that can happen. They've wiped out countless intergalactic civilizations so Bioware had better convince me they're something actually capable of doing that.


I also agree. I don't see how a Reaper defeat is possible without a deus ex machina. The Mass Effect team is talented though, just because I can't think of something good doesn't mean that they can't either.


I bet you either the Geth or EDI give them a technical solution that will turn the tide.

Sentient AI will be the final solution to defeating other sentient AI.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 12 2011 12:03 GMT
#231
I bet they will steal one of their ships, fly to the mothership and then upload a virus using a Unix console that will disable all shields on all reaper ships :D
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
June 12 2011 12:05 GMT
#232
On May 20 2011 07:05 Fruscainte wrote:
[image loading]

I'm beyond hating on this game.

This is just disappointing. It's flat out sad that this is what they have turned into.


I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite bulge on the Citadel.

(sorry, just had to)
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 12 2011 12:10 GMT
#233
On June 12 2011 19:13 DisaFear wrote:
What range of months can we hope for ME3 to come out?
Gonna have to replay through the others to get a decent save before that



I'm fairly sure I saw March 2012 in E3, personally I was expecting it to come around x-mas this year but I really don't mind waiting longer if it makes the game more awesome.
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
June 12 2011 12:41 GMT
#234
On June 12 2011 21:03 -Archangel- wrote:
I bet they will steal one of their ships, fly to the mothership and then upload a virus using a Unix console that will disable all shields on all reaper ships :D


LOL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
June 12 2011 12:45 GMT
#235
On June 12 2011 21:03 -Archangel- wrote:
I bet they will steal one of their ships, fly to the mothership and then upload a virus using a Unix console that will disable all shields on all reaper ships :D


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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#236
On June 12 2011 21:03 -Archangel- wrote:
I bet they will steal one of their ships, fly to the mothership and then upload a virus using a Unix console that will disable all shields on all reaper ships :D


LOL, great post!
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:21:07
June 12 2011 13:16 GMT
#237
On June 10 2011 21:59 Spitfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:48 BryanSC wrote:
I hope they don't trivialize battling reapers. In ME1, it took an entire fleet to take down Sovereign and in the demo at E3, you take a reaper down with just a vehicle with a machine gun attached? Otherwise, really excited for ME3 and I'm hopefully they do a decent job at closing the series.


I strongly agree, this has been my main concern about the game.

3rd episodes in trilogies often disappoint, because the first two have built up to a climax that doesnt pay off. In this case, having the mystery and awesomeness of the Reapers ruined would be a way that can happen. They've wiped out countless intergalactic civilizations so Bioware had better convince me they're something actually capable of doing that.


I think it is even more important that they are able to give a plausible motivation for the whole sentient life extermination business which would not be some sort of a Star Control 3 rip-off. + Show Spoiler [Star Control 3 plot] +
In that game the basic story was pretty similar, a mysterious race of "Eternal Ones" with super advanced technology went across the galaxy once in a while and exterminated all sentient life. During the game it is discovered that the "Eternal Ones" are a race that evolved into a higher (as in pure energy) state of being, but they were "addicted" to the energy patterns produced by the thinking process of sentient beings, and those patterns were the strongest when a sentient being was being murdered. They kept "feeding" on sentient life by killing most of it once it was sufficiently evolved, and then let it evolve from the beginning once again. The final solution was for the player (with the help of all of the sentient races) to assemble a device that would harmlessly amplify the thought energy patterns valued by the "Eternal Ones" so that it would let them "feed" without having to kill anyone.
While not the most amazing and plausible explanation, I thought it was rather satisfactory, and much better that the token "let's own their mothership!" solution.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 12 2011 13:39 GMT
#238
Well, what do you want bioware to do?
The options are
A) Shepard with the help of a dues ex machina saves the day and defeats the reapers
B) An impasse occurs where neither side is destroyed
C) All civilization is wiped out.


C sucks for the player though it gives truth to what two games have built up, that Reapers are unstoppable.
B People will be let down by an ending that wasn't an ending at all, despite it being plausible.
A Don't forget to light the cigars AFTER the fat lady sings. You'll jinx the whole thing.


Either Reapers aren't as strong as described or their countless years of destroying better civilizations than this one continues with another culmination of the cycle. What would you rather have?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 12 2011 19:56 GMT
#239
On June 12 2011 19:13 DisaFear wrote:
What range of months can we hope for ME3 to come out?
Gonna have to replay through the others to get a decent save before that


I'll probably just utilize some random website to find a save to download that has everything maxed out with the choices that I want. Kind of like I did for ME2
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 09:21:25
June 13 2011 09:18 GMT
#240
On June 12 2011 22:39 Probe1 wrote:

Either Reapers aren't as strong as described or their countless years of destroying better civilizations than this one continues with another culmination of the cycle.


I haven't played ME or ME2 recently, but as I recall, the Reapers destroyed every single "better civilization" before this one by immediately seizing through surprise a certain sector of space that was...

1: The command-and-control post of every universe-spanning civilization.

2: The single most important mass effect relay node for interstellar travel.

Even then, it took decades to centuries to eliminate said civilizations. In this case, the previous dead civilization made it impossible for the Reapers to seize command-and-control immediately, and the current civilization has had quite a few years to screw around with Reaper-level technology.

And everyone knows about Reaper tricks like indoctrinated moles, even if the Council is too terrified to consider the threat directly.
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