On October 27 2010 20:17 Tilorn wrote: How can you say ME1 and 2 had stereotype characters? Urdnot, Tali Zora, Jack, Samara, well pretty much everyone on the crew is just pure awesomeness.
I don't know ME2.. In ME1 no one was really outstanding for me.
Big Alien guy was like Big Warrior Race guy with a Trauma in Kotor (but a little better). Tali was shy/misterious girl... Human Soldier Girl was more than bland..
The others i don't even remember... The others i don't even remember.
On October 27 2010 19:42 Tilorn wrote: During my 19 years of gaming expirience I'd say what games had the best story in my oppion:
1) Legacy of Kain 2) Mass Effect 1 & 2 3) Devil May Cry 3 and 4 to some extent 4) Warcraft 3 and TFT 5) Neverwinter Nights 6) KotOR 7) Starcraft (the books would be a strong 3rd place, but the game only 7th) 8) Dragon Age 9) Amnesia - The Dark Descent 10) And I almost forgot Syberia!! I don't really know on what spot to squeeze this amazing game (read story) so I'll let it chill on the 10th spot even tho it's probably better then that.
Just my 2c.
I don't know how in the world you could have 19 years of gaming experience and pick these.
Devil May Cry is the most fan service bullshit I've ever seen. Dragon Age lost massive points from good reviewers for the bland story, I have to agree.
Amneisa is scary and all, but it's only a few hours long and lets be honest, the story sucks. Can you even have a good story where you character starts with amnesia? I don't think so.
On October 27 2010 21:47 MrLonely wrote: Ohh I forgot KOTOR, that's some really good story right there.
But Devil May Cry, NWN, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, etc? Come on, lol.
People have massive hardons for anything Bioware, especially anything recent. Especially if you can have pretend sex with the characters in the game. Nevermind how stupidly generic the story itself is.
The only games i've played that I felt had truly compelling stories are PS:T, FF6 and KOTOR. I've played like every RPG in the world other than console exclusives that you can't emulate as well. I love both Dragon Age and Mass Effect but they're not good games for their story, they're good games for their characters & gameplay.
Seems like a lot of people really haven't played Xenogears. It had such a brilliant long story with many different factions and events. Too bad gameplay suffered because of budget cuts etc but the story was just so good.
On October 27 2010 21:31 keV. wrote: Amneisa is scary and all, but it's only a few hours long and lets be honest, the story sucks. Can you even have a good story where you character starts with amnesia? I don't think so.
Why many people in this thread are talking about Torment so ? :p
Well... But PS:T has a very diffrent approach about it. You discover pretty quickly that your amnesia is kinda a *normal* thing. In general amnesia is only in the game for the "big" story-swingaround int he game... See Kotor 1.
If your Hero has amnesia then normally you were some badass before your "accident" and, after some dramatic event boha!, will find out about it.
Thats exciting the first time but it gets really old really quick.
I'll get around to Torment one day... but for now Grim Fandango reigns supreme in terms of story. It was so perfect. It's one of the few games you're actually sad at the end of, simply because you're saying goodbye to such a great cast of characters.
Bon voyage, Manny and Meche. We will remember you.
The Longest Journey and Syberia come closely behind.
On October 27 2010 19:47 Velr wrote: Kotor 1+2, Mass Effect, Dragon Age and basically every other new RPG are just filled with stereotype Chars and a few actually kinda interesting ones (ok, Kotor had about 0 interesting Chars in both parts).
Kreia?
I heard they used some old threads from Ravel when coming up with her.
On October 27 2010 19:47 Velr wrote: How the fuck are there people that found Kotor had an Amazing Story? It was a fun game but the Story was about as original as Super Mario Galaxy 2. Or the original Never Winter Nights.. Just ugh.. (the first Addon is good).
What are you talking about Kotor had great stories like this one:
LoL I mean look at my name.. but uhm seroiusly. I think gameplay and story are two totally different things. Starcraft obvoiusly has the best/ most addicting/ skillful gameplay ever made. Along with half-life/counter strike.
As far as story goes and being moved by playing a game and hearing its story. FINAL FANTASY 7 obviously has the most compelling/best story of all time. *SPOLIER* Cloud is falling in love with Aeris and out of nowhere right before everyones eyes she is murdered. Creating a vengeance within the party to kill Sephiroth while also saving the planet from the madman. As well as having plenty of other plot depth that cannot be explainded in this thread.
Also XENOGEARS and CHRONO TRIGGER have great storys as well.
What, no Ico? Psychonauts? Beyond Good & Evil? Arcanum? The Witcher? Only one mention of Shadow of the Colossus, Grim Fandango, MGS3, FF:T, Vampire: the Masquerade Bloodlines, and Deus Ex? More people brought up Xenosaga than Xenogears?
In terms of storytelling, aside from the obvious picks like PS:T and Deus Ex, Ico is probably the greatest. Minimal dialogue, all nonverbal communication, and yet the entire story is told to you so beautifully through atmosphere and body language you even grow to care for Yorda in the end. It's like the WALL-E of video games.
I've started playing BG2 recently and I don't dig it at all. For some reason these fantasy stories really don't interest me at all. I was always more into sci-fi stuff, and for that reason KOTOR has the best story of any game ever for me. The plot twist was so perfect.
I also love the Mass Effect games so much. I've devoured all books (and found them way too short) and played through both games at least 3 times (I've NEVER done that with ANY game before). The setting is so amazing, with so much thought-out detail in every aspect of the games universe(which is actually pretty realistic in terms of sci-fi, the idea that you can bend space time with a zero-mass element by running an electrical charge through it is fresh and sounds possible, even though of course it isn't actually based on any scientific facts other than the mention that what they have is basically dark energy), and the main plot line (these huge hyper-intelligent alien machines with almost no hope of winning against them) is so chills-down-the-spine-inducing, it simply amazes me like no other game has before those two.
This will probably always be my favourite villain confrontation in any game, ever:
Some people suggested to me to read some H.P.Lovecraft books because he tells stories of overwhelming hopelessness and stuff like that , but I don't know where to start with his books.
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