Is there still any merit to going stat-less (dexless sin, lukless mage, etc)? If one of those is viable without requiring me to be loaded I might just pick that.

ketomai

United States2789 Posts

October 23 2011 09:57 GMT

#5510

On October 23 2011 18:28 Trukk wrote:
Is there still any merit to going stat-less (dexless sin, lukless mage, etc)? If one of those is viable without requiring me to be loaded I might just pick that.

If you aren't funded to begin with, then it's sort of hard to pull off those builds, depending on your class. That's because all of the equips are significantly better at a higher level now due to a new system, and if you're statless you might not be able to wear that armor and you will miss out on a ton of damage. The new system basically attaches %stat to an equip so that if you have 100% total strength on all of your armor and you have 500 strength base, you will end up with 1000 strength total, which is more than any old weapon/armors could give you by far.

Before, you might be ok with just wearing a lvl 30 sauna robe and using the lvl 64 maple weapon, for example on a statless character. You would only really miss out on like 10 stats from the armor and the attack from the weapon. However, now, wearing the lvl 30 sauna robe can get you on average 4-5% while wearing the highest tier armor can give you 12-15% average (possibly 100 stats or more different PER item) on each item. This all adds to the fact that you are limited weapon wise, so in the end going statless is, for the most part obsolete.

However, if you have enough money, you can get enough stats from armor/scrolling to still be statless AND wear the armor. It's not actually that hard nowadays because of all the rings, pendants and stuff they give you now, but it can be difficult if you are just starting off, so I don't recommend doing it for most classes.

The exception are warriors. If you're making a warrior, there's pretty much no reason to add dex at all. You only really need dex if you are going to get the highest level weapon/armor set and chances are, if you can obtain those, then you will be rich enough to pull it off dexless anyways.

Yomi.Doom

United States383 Posts

October 23 2011 13:21 GMT

#5511

The only class where you should add stats into your secondary stat is thief. That's because thieves require so much dex to equip their end game gear. I think other classes require like 120ish of their secondary stat whereas thieves require 160.

When I started, I just used gear that had +stat potential until I had enough money to scroll for my secondary stat. If you want to do a lot of damage, you're gonna have to do work and get money, there's no way around it unless you feel like spending RL $$.

IMO just choose whatever class you want to play and try it for a bit. Worse come to worse, you can just make something else. Takes like no time at all to level anymore

Trukk

United States38 Posts

October 23 2011 20:32 GMT

#5512

Thanks guys. I've always been partial to statless characters, so I went with a lukless mage (class undetermined so far). I just wanted to know if it's still possible at all. It's been so long that I couldn't even figure out my mage advancement after they moved Grendel to the middle of the map (sigh).

Added to guild :D

Nub4ever

Canada1981 Posts

October 24 2011 04:59 GMT

#5513

Doooont goo f/p!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah they're kinda strong but I'm I/L and have an extreme hatred and bias against f/p

... Also, I could just be bad... But non-overpriced decent Mage gear is really tough to find...

kesrith

Germany393 Posts

October 24 2011 06:37 GMT

#5514

On October 24 2011 13:59 Nub4ever wrote:
Doooont goo f/p!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah they're kinda strong but I'm I/L and have an extreme hatred and bias against f/p

... Also, I could just be bad... But non-overpriced decent Mage gear is really tough to find...

Why you hate me?

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 24 2011 07:19 GMT

#5515

On October 23 2011 17:26 kesrith wrote:

No, ur wrong. SV #1

Trukk

United States38 Posts

October 24 2011 08:31 GMT

#5516

Level 28 right now and I still have no idea what my mage is gonna be. Also, his damage blooooows right now (lvl 8 wand). Google says Zakum drops Zakum's tree branch but I don't see anyone selling it in FM, so I assume people just don't use it? If you guys do Zak runs and find one that you don't need (or any lukless mage weapon somehow...?) I'd love a shot at using it.

JonsaBoy

Denmark457 Posts

October 24 2011 08:38 GMT

#5517

iirc zak tree branch is untradeable, but you should just stick to whatever freebies you can get for now. I had that level 8 wand until i hit 80ish and i got a paintbrush.