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On May 04 2015 00:02 RoieTRS wrote:
http://legendstech.tumblr.com/post/117807127391/the-magic-the-gathering-pro-tour-sucks
Once you embrace the misconceptions and contradictions, this is a fun article.

On May 04 2015 02:51 deth2munkies wrote:
Thinking about running a G/W deck for now based around Collected Company because that card seems awesome.

On May 04 2015 03:37 MoonBear wrote:

I had a lot of difficulty reading this and I couldn't figure out what the author was trying to get at tbh. Does someone mind explaining it to me?


Anafenza is cute but the WW requirement does stretch you quite hard. Not being able to hit the right colour lands is actually quite harsh since all your 3-drops have a WW or GG requirement which you can'y always hit on curve. Not sure what the best way to address te clunky nature is though. Cause in order to fix the mana you're playing Courser of Kruphix over something that beats face harder like Boon Satyr.

On May 04 2015 04:32 xAdra wrote:
I really don't know if this is the place to ask it (first time participating in this thread) but I'm a relatively new MTG player and I'm hoping to make an R/B deck that plays to Kolaghan's strengths. I have Thunderbreak Regents so ideally I'd use those too. Any other strong cards that you can recommend me to have?

On May 04 2015 04:15 deth2munkies wrote:


To be fair, literally half the lands in the deck produce both colors.

The other 2 options are G/B so I have Deathdealer and Herald of Torment plus a spot for Boon Satyr OR just go mono green and toss in some Surraks for the highend. It leans a lot on Collected Company to get Anafenza into play, though I'm not 100% clear on the ruling about whether getting her in lets her trigger off the other one coming in off Company (guessing no).

It's possible I just want to cut Anafenza and Brimaz altogether and just go with Boon Satyr and Heir of the Wilds or something. Going full Abzan would be pointless because I wouldn't be able to play sets of Abzan Charm, Downfall, or Thoughtseize because I lose creature density for Company.

The real point of this deck is to flood the board just as fast as a deck like red does, but with better creatures.

On May 02 2015 07:56 dudeman001 wrote:
I'm trying to force Ghastly Conscription to work lol. I'm also trying to keep it to Khans block cards, so that's the reason for the lack of temples. Here's the decklist I've come up with:

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Cards that I've been debating to add/subtract have been Stratus Dancer, Courser of Kruphix, Qarsi High Priest, Qarsi Deceiver, Secret Plans and Obscuring AEther. Naturally I know adding bombs like Deathmist Raptor and Whisperwood Elementary would always be nice, but if anyone has some ideas on optimizing the deck's strategy until I get my hands on those bombs would be greatly appreciated : D

Also should I cut the non basic lands all together due to the fetching nature of Trail of Mystery? Or should I still include some Polluted Deltas and maybe even splash in a bit of delve? Or keep it as-is. Since nobody in their right mind runs a bizzare card like Ghastly Conscription I haven't found any comparable decks so I'm open to any kinds of tinkering.

On May 04 2015 03:37 MoonBear wrote:

I had a lot of difficulty reading this and I couldn't figure out what the author was trying to get at tbh. Does someone mind explaining it to me?

On May 04 2015 07:00 MoonBear wrote:

That's fair, but main the issue with the double colour cost 3 drops is that you stumble trying to play them on curve consistently. While TappedOut says the majority of your deck is 2-drops, it's not quite true because Dromoka's Command is not something you play on T2. Your deck is mainly 3-drops so it's super crucial to hit the 3 mana on time. Otherwise your plays are super lackluster. I don't really know what the answer is here but that's the biggest weakness atm.

That being said Anafenza -> Brimaz -> Raptor/Den engine is a pretty nut draw if you land it.


EDIT: Craig Wescoe's deck in the Top 8 from GP Toronto is pretty spicy and worth looking at for GW Aggro with Collected Company.

On May 04 2015 09:36 deth2munkies wrote:


Even in testing my deck I rarely hit 2 creatures with Collected Company and I'm playing 6 more than him. I do think 4 Warden is wrong after testing a bit with it, but I'm not sure 1 is right either.

Then again, he made T8 of a GP and I haven't.

On May 04 2015 09:46 MoonBear wrote:

Yeah. Warden seemed rather lack luster cause it's a one-drop that did nothing most of the time I goldfished (like you play it turn 1 and it just sits there super sad as a 1/1 for the next 7 turns cause you're too busy trying to hit your 3-drops). It's a nice mana sink late game though.

I can't remember the math I relied on for designed with Collected Company in Modern, but iirc you have 80+% chance to hit at least 2 creatrues with it if you're running 28 creatures and even with 26 it's still like 60+%? But even if you hit only 1 it's still great cause you get to dig 6 cards deep, pick out a creature, and then clear the other 5 cards worth of chaff away. Also if you play it on your opponent's end step your creatures get pseudo-haste but you still have all your lands untapped for combat tricks and stuff and since you've cleared the 5 useless cards you're fairly likely to draw gas.

On May 04 2015 23:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:


The problem with Collected Company is not the number of creatures you hit, but the number of relevant creatures you hit.

Since you need at least 20 creatures--but realistically 28-32--this has to be an aggressive creature deck. Running nothing but 3 drops is not efficient, so you run some one drops, some two drops, etc... Just so you can be on curve if you don't run the company.

But everytime you company and reveal less than four mana worth of creatures, you immedietely start to ask yourself "Why aren't I just casting Siege Rhino and get a Goyf + Lightning Helix instead of this crappy version of Bloodbraid Elf..."

On May 05 2015 07:56 Judicator wrote:
Not sure if flash is better here for variance.