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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 05 2012 06:05 GMT
#3721
Vile Rebirth is a card. Calling it now.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 05 2012 06:16 GMT
#3722
Of course it is. It's an instant speed 2/2 for B that stops reanimation/moorland haunt. Beckon apparition sees play in modern and this one has tribal synergy in zombies.
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
July 05 2012 06:24 GMT
#3723
On July 05 2012 13:04 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 12:59 hkf wrote:
On July 05 2012 12:31 Judicator wrote:
Shows you how much I care for either of those cards or viable 8 drops are.

Well everything automatically passes titantests when M12 rotates soooooooo.....


Does it pass the can you live till turn 8 test while dealing with Undying/Hexproof/Exalted test? I really see no reason to play Grixis after rotation since you lose the two most efficient sweepers in Standard.


That is another test ^^
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 05 2012 13:11 GMT
#3724
Ode to Blade Splicer when SOM block rotates. That guy has been a champ for me this entire standard, blocking everything short of Thrun and laying down beats on control decks in the mirrors.
Get it by your hands...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 06 2012 01:09 GMT
#3725
On July 05 2012 22:11 Judicator wrote:
Ode to Blade Splicer when SOM block rotates. That guy has been a champ for me this entire standard, blocking everything short of Thrun and laying down beats on control decks in the mirrors.


It's still peaking too now that it's resto's best friend. Better then GoST in more situations then I can count. I've lost countless games because of that card
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 07 2012 19:35 GMT
#3726
Anyone else slightly disappointed by prerelease this weekend? I feel liek the BW exalted deck is the only way to win. I played BW last night to 4-1 and GW to to 1-2 drop. I couldn't win vs BW even when I dropped a serra angel on turn 3....
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 07 2012 20:03 GMT
#3727
On July 08 2012 04:35 Shotcoder wrote:
Anyone else slightly disappointed by prerelease this weekend? I feel liek the BW exalted deck is the only way to win. I played BW last night to 4-1 and GW to to 1-2 drop. I couldn't win vs BW even when I dropped a serra angel on turn 3....


? My friend ran UB to a 2nd place (5-1) finish only due to the BW player topping Exalted 3/1, O-Ring, Divine Verdict. I ran RG to 4th finish with RG playing only 1 rare only losing to UB. Dunno why you are complaining about WB Exalted when arguably Rancor on a Hexproof is straight beats/removal.
Get it by your hands...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 07 2012 22:11 GMT
#3728
I opened both ajani and liliana had to go BW. went 3-1
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 08 2012 23:08 GMT
#3729
On July 08 2012 05:03 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 04:35 Shotcoder wrote:
Anyone else slightly disappointed by prerelease this weekend? I feel liek the BW exalted deck is the only way to win. I played BW last night to 4-1 and GW to to 1-2 drop. I couldn't win vs BW even when I dropped a serra angel on turn 3....


? My friend ran UB to a 2nd place (5-1) finish only due to the BW player topping Exalted 3/1, O-Ring, Divine Verdict. I ran RG to 4th finish with RG playing only 1 rare only losing to UB. Dunno why you are complaining about WB Exalted when arguably Rancor on a Hexproof is straight beats/removal.



They dont even need removal to out race you though. Rancor is all good but when they look up a lifelinker or a tiny dude with the +2/+2 lifelink and a couple favors you're automatically on the back foot. plus you add in exalted and they're gaining anywhere from 6-12 life a turn and your bombs are pathetic. especially in GW when your only removal is the 4 mana attacking/block or planar cleansing....
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
July 08 2012 23:30 GMT
#3730
Very disappointed with the set so far.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 01:08:58
July 09 2012 00:26 GMT
#3731
Limited is quite fun. People really underrate Liliana's Shade. Him + Courtly Provocateur is basically a repeatable Death Wind.

I ended up going 2-2, losing the final game of the tournament to a ripped Exalted Archangel. I opened no playable rares (not "no playable rares in my color", just no playable rares) and did quite well in spite of it.

The only thing I don't like about the set is there are very few ways to fix mana, no Cultivates or Rampant Growths...you have to rely on crap like Gilded Lotus (which I played*, but was never any good for me).


*I don't think it's playable, when you're at 5 you really don't need 3 more. I played it because I needed SOMETHING to go in my deck and it was a helluva lot better than putting in a 3rd one of those B -1/-1 things.

Also just jumped in a draft with Kibler and ended up taking out the guy he lost to in the finals. My deck:

+ Show Spoiler +

1x Silverblade Paladin
1x Angel of Jubilation
1x Hound of Gristlebrand
1x Burn at the Stake
2x Heirs of Stromkirk
1x Havengul Vampire
1x Fervent Cathar
1x Angel's Tomb
1x Somberwald Vigilante
1x Thunderbolt
1x Stonewright
1x Gang of Devils
1x Guise of Fire
1x Call to Serve
1x Defang
1x Hanweir Lancer
2x Scalding Devil
1x Zealous Strike
1x Righteous Blow
1x Spectral Gateguards
1x Mad Prophet
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 00:28:48
July 09 2012 00:27 GMT
#3732
On July 09 2012 08:08 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 05:03 Judicator wrote:
On July 08 2012 04:35 Shotcoder wrote:
Anyone else slightly disappointed by prerelease this weekend? I feel liek the BW exalted deck is the only way to win. I played BW last night to 4-1 and GW to to 1-2 drop. I couldn't win vs BW even when I dropped a serra angel on turn 3....


? My friend ran UB to a 2nd place (5-1) finish only due to the BW player topping Exalted 3/1, O-Ring, Divine Verdict. I ran RG to 4th finish with RG playing only 1 rare only losing to UB. Dunno why you are complaining about WB Exalted when arguably Rancor on a Hexproof is straight beats/removal.



They dont even need removal to out race you though. Rancor is all good but when they look up a lifelinker or a tiny dude with the +2/+2 lifelink and a couple favors you're automatically on the back foot. plus you add in exalted and they're gaining anywhere from 6-12 life a turn and your bombs are pathetic. especially in GW when your only removal is the 4 mana attacking/block or planar cleansing....


Sure, but that comes with the color pie you are playing.

Rancor just wins, turn everything into a threat.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 11 2012 03:50 GMT
#3733
I haven't had a chance to do any drafting of M13, any tips before I go to my store on Thursday? G/W midrange (4/4 reach-vigi spider looks ridonk) and U/B exalted looks quite strong but I'm forever the contrarian - any other controlly archetypes that can perform?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 12 2012 02:44 GMT
#3734
On July 11 2012 12:50 slyboogie wrote:
I haven't had a chance to do any drafting of M13, any tips before I go to my store on Thursday? G/W midrange (4/4 reach-vigi spider looks ridonk) and U/B exalted looks quite strong but I'm forever the contrarian - any other controlly archetypes that can perform?


Well saw this too late...for anyone else that cares (both about M13 and about what I have to say)...

There aren't any blistering fast decks that just present stupidly sized creatures like in M12. Exalted is slower than Bloodthirst, anyone who tells you otherwise probably hasn't played Bloodthirst in M12. The idea is that you are still only attacking with 1 creature per turn which simplifies combat (not complicate it). With cards like Fog Bank. Deadly Recluse, Sunstriker, etc, it is difficult getting in there like you can with Bloodthirst (lest you waste your Exalted triggers).

The flipside to that coin is that the mid game is much more difficult to assess than in M12. Creatures that can get in there unopposed are very good (more so than previous sets), creatures who can get in there and only have to worry about combat are very good...which is how we arrive at the 3/3 hexproofer for 3G being an extremely good card, especially if you start attaching auras to it. Removal is fairly common and getting tempo-ed in this set is still pretty punishing, albeit no where as bad as it was in M12 when you're staring down at 3/3s and bigger on turn 3.

Cards that I feel players will not readily play around:

Divine Verdict in a GW deck, is it Titanic Growth or is it DV?
Volcanic Geyser, yes it's instant speed.
Arms Dealer, it pitches Goblins and its a considerable 4 damage which you can kind of ambush with 5 mana open.
Get it by your hands...
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
July 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#3735
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 23:28:44
July 12 2012 23:28 GMT
#3736
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote:
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...


Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains.

And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace.
Get it by your hands...
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
July 12 2012 23:45 GMT
#3737
On July 13 2012 08:28 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote:
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...


Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains.

And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace.

4/5 of those are scars ^_^
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 13 2012 00:27 GMT
#3738
On July 13 2012 08:45 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:28 Judicator wrote:
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote:
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...


Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains.

And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace.

4/5 of those are scars ^_^


Likewise, so is Shrine and Volt Charge and Berserker.
Get it by your hands...
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 02:00:27
July 13 2012 02:00 GMT
#3739
On July 13 2012 09:27 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 08:45 hkf wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:28 Judicator wrote:
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote:
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...


Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains.

And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace.

4/5 of those are scars ^_^


Likewise, so is Shrine and Volt Charge and Berserker.

flunkies > berserker
nothing > volt charge + shrine (proliferate was only good with koth n shrine anyways )

they need to reprint a really good 2/1 1drop for RDW to have a decent shot at tier 1 though. I miss the rage that I got for just jamming t1 guide vs people on modo

also a good haste 3drop to play nice w flunkies
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 13 2012 02:35 GMT
#3740
On July 13 2012 11:00 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 09:27 Judicator wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:45 hkf wrote:
On July 13 2012 08:28 Judicator wrote:
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote:
Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback...


Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains.

And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace.

4/5 of those are scars ^_^


Likewise, so is Shrine and Volt Charge and Berserker.

flunkies > berserker
nothing > volt charge + shrine (proliferate was only good with koth n shrine anyways )

they need to reprint a really good 2/1 1drop for RDW to have a decent shot at tier 1 though. I miss the rage that I got for just jamming t1 guide vs people on modo

also a good haste 3drop to play nice w flunkies


Dunno, Berserker on the curve with BT > Flunkies. Shrine is good just because so few cards interact with it. Volt Charge was about as good as it got, effectively 3+ most of the time.

But yes, it needs a good one drop.
Get it by your hands...
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