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bumatlarge
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DEN1ED
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
On July 05 2012 13:04 Judicator wrote: Does it pass the can you live till turn 8 test while dealing with Undying/Hexproof/Exalted test? I really see no reason to play Grixis after rotation since you lose the two most efficient sweepers in Standard. That is another test ^^ | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On July 05 2012 22:11 Judicator wrote: Ode to Blade Splicer when SOM block rotates. That guy has been a champ for me this entire standard, blocking everything short of Thrun and laying down beats on control decks in the mirrors. It's still peaking too now that it's resto's best friend. Better then GoST in more situations then I can count. I've lost countless games because of that card  | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 08 2012 04:35 Shotcoder wrote: Anyone else slightly disappointed by prerelease this weekend? I feel liek the BW exalted deck is the only way to win. I played BW last night to 4-1 and GW to to 1-2 drop. I couldn't win vs BW even when I dropped a serra angel on turn 3.... ? My friend ran UB to a 2nd place (5-1) finish only due to the BW player topping Exalted 3/1, O-Ring, Divine Verdict. I ran RG to 4th finish with RG playing only 1 rare only losing to UB. Dunno why you are complaining about WB Exalted when arguably Rancor on a Hexproof is straight beats/removal. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
 had to go BW. went 3-1 | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On July 08 2012 05:03 Judicator wrote: ? My friend ran UB to a 2nd place (5-1) finish only due to the BW player topping Exalted 3/1, O-Ring, Divine Verdict. I ran RG to 4th finish with RG playing only 1 rare only losing to UB. Dunno why you are complaining about WB Exalted when arguably Rancor on a Hexproof is straight beats/removal. They dont even need removal to out race you though. Rancor is all good but when they look up a lifelinker or a tiny dude with the +2/+2 lifelink and a couple favors you're automatically on the back foot. plus you add in exalted and they're gaining anywhere from 6-12 life a turn and your bombs are pathetic. especially in GW when your only removal is the 4 mana attacking/block or planar cleansing.... | ||
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ParanoiaDHerO
United States183 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
I ended up going 2-2, losing the final game of the tournament to a ripped Exalted Archangel. I opened no playable rares (not "no playable rares in my color", just no playable rares) and did quite well in spite of it. The only thing I don't like about the set is there are very few ways to fix mana, no Cultivates or Rampant Growths...you have to rely on crap like Gilded Lotus (which I played*, but was never any good for me). *I don't think it's playable, when you're at 5 you really don't need 3 more. I played it because I needed SOMETHING to go in my deck and it was a helluva lot better than putting in a 3rd one of those B -1/-1 things. Also just jumped in a draft with Kibler and ended up taking out the guy he lost to in the finals. My deck: + Show Spoiler + 1x Silverblade Paladin 1x Angel of Jubilation 1x Hound of Gristlebrand 1x Burn at the Stake 2x Heirs of Stromkirk 1x Havengul Vampire 1x Fervent Cathar 1x Angel's Tomb 1x Somberwald Vigilante 1x Thunderbolt 1x Stonewright 1x Gang of Devils 1x Guise of Fire 1x Call to Serve 1x Defang 1x Hanweir Lancer 2x Scalding Devil 1x Zealous Strike 1x Righteous Blow 1x Spectral Gateguards 1x Mad Prophet | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 09 2012 08:08 Shotcoder wrote: They dont even need removal to out race you though. Rancor is all good but when they look up a lifelinker or a tiny dude with the +2/+2 lifelink and a couple favors you're automatically on the back foot. plus you add in exalted and they're gaining anywhere from 6-12 life a turn and your bombs are pathetic. especially in GW when your only removal is the 4 mana attacking/block or planar cleansing.... Sure, but that comes with the color pie you are playing. Rancor just wins, turn everything into a threat. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 11 2012 12:50 slyboogie wrote: I haven't had a chance to do any drafting of M13, any tips before I go to my store on Thursday? G/W midrange (4/4 reach-vigi spider looks ridonk) and U/B exalted looks quite strong but I'm forever the contrarian - any other controlly archetypes that can perform? Well saw this too late...for anyone else that cares (both about M13 and about what I have to say)... There aren't any blistering fast decks that just present stupidly sized creatures like in M12. Exalted is slower than Bloodthirst, anyone who tells you otherwise probably hasn't played Bloodthirst in M12. The idea is that you are still only attacking with 1 creature per turn which simplifies combat (not complicate it). With cards like Fog Bank. Deadly Recluse, Sunstriker, etc, it is difficult getting in there like you can with Bloodthirst (lest you waste your Exalted triggers). The flipside to that coin is that the mid game is much more difficult to assess than in M12. Creatures that can get in there unopposed are very good (more so than previous sets), creatures who can get in there and only have to worry about combat are very good...which is how we arrive at the 3/3 hexproofer for 3G being an extremely good card, especially if you start attaching auras to it. Removal is fairly common and getting tempo-ed in this set is still pretty punishing, albeit no where as bad as it was in M12 when you're staring down at 3/3s and bigger on turn 3. Cards that I feel players will not readily play around: Divine Verdict in a GW deck, is it Titanic Growth or is it DV? Volcanic Geyser, yes it's instant speed. Arms Dealer, it pitches Goblins and its a considerable 4 damage which you can kind of ambush with 5 mana open. | ||
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 13 2012 07:37 hkf wrote: Feels like red has all the tools sans GG(goblin guide) to make a comeback... Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains. And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace. | ||
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
On July 13 2012 08:28 Judicator wrote: Depends on Rav, Red can't be a deck as long as Timely/Batterskull/Wurmcoil/Pristine Talisman remains. And everyone's favorite 20 lifepoint swing card, Sword of War and Peace. 4/5 of those are scars ^_^ | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Likewise, so is Shrine and Volt Charge and Berserker. | ||
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
On July 13 2012 09:27 Judicator wrote: Likewise, so is Shrine and Volt Charge and Berserker. flunkies > berserker nothing > volt charge + shrine (proliferate was only good with koth n shrine anyways )they need to reprint a really good 2/1 1drop for RDW to have a decent shot at tier 1 though. I miss the rage that I got for just jamming t1 guide vs people on modo also a good haste 3drop to play nice w flunkies | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 13 2012 11:00 hkf wrote: flunkies > berserker nothing > volt charge + shrine (proliferate was only good with koth n shrine anyways )they need to reprint a really good 2/1 1drop for RDW to have a decent shot at tier 1 though. I miss the rage that I got for just jamming t1 guide vs people on modo also a good haste 3drop to play nice w flunkies Dunno, Berserker on the curve with BT > Flunkies. Shrine is good just because so few cards interact with it. Volt Charge was about as good as it got, effectively 3+ most of the time. But yes, it needs a good one drop. | ||
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