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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 01 2013 10:52 GMT
#1281
iirc the mind flayers do 5 int damage with their special attack (if it hits). If a character reaches zero int then it dies. Typically, you want a tank with at least 11 int so that he can survive two hits.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 11:52:15
December 01 2013 11:51 GMT
#1282
Dual classed ranger/cleric eats them alive. Plate armor, 2 strong weapons (Flail of Ages and some other good mace) with 3 stars in two weapon fighting that all rangers get for free, full set of cleric buffs and you can go to town on those Ilithids. Plus you can choose them as racial enemy for some additional small bonuses.
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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 16:38:27
December 01 2013 16:38 GMT
#1283
So are there any differences in the enhanced edition? Should i play bg1 first?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 16:43:42
December 01 2013 16:43 GMT
#1284
On December 02 2013 01:38 Zidane wrote:
So are there any differences in the enhanced edition? Should i play bg1 first?

Just better graphics I think. But BG1 is good so if you can handle old graphics then go for the orginal one then
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 01 2013 16:46 GMT
#1285
On December 02 2013 01:38 Zidane wrote:
So are there any differences in the enhanced edition? Should i play bg1 first?

Bg 1 is epic as hell too.

thing is in BG1 you start on lvl 1.

it is not a prerequisite to play bg2 though. but for 9.99 on steam atm, you will have a good 30-40 hours on this game before you beat it.

and yes there are some differences from the original ( on bg 1 at least ) they added a couple of areas, a few npcs etc. the games also plays with the newer version of D and D rules ( I think )

The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 16:56:08
December 01 2013 16:55 GMT
#1286
On December 02 2013 01:38 Zidane wrote:
So are there any differences in the enhanced edition? Should i play bg1 first?

As far as I see it there are three reasons you'd buy BG:EE/BG2:EE over the original.

1) You don't own and don't plan to buy BG2, but want to play BG1 (I don't understand why you'd do this since if you were only going to play one, BG2 is the better game)
2) You want to play multiplayer
3) You don't want to put in ~1 hour setting up basic mods/fixpacks for BG/BG2.

For the most part, the experience of the Enhanced Editions is pretty much the same as the modded experience for the original games. While BG:EE looks a LOT better than the base BG game, using Tutu or Trilogy (mods that let you play BG in the BG2 cut of the Infinity Engine) plus a Widescreen mod significantly close the gap. Most of the basic gameplay enhancements/bugfixes are also available as free fixpacks from the community, and there are some bugs that the Enhanced Editions themselves introduce.

The one thing the Enhanced Editions do really well is make multiplayer a lot easier to set up. If you have a friend you will be playing this with, then it's a good idea to play the Enhanced Editions as playing multiplayer on the older games can be an absolute nightmare.

On December 02 2013 01:46 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
and yes there are some differences from the original ( on bg 1 at least ) they added a couple of areas, a few npcs etc. the games also plays with the newer version of D and D rules ( I think )

BG:EE still uses the same cut of D&D 2E.
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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 19:13:49
December 01 2013 19:10 GMT
#1287
Interesting, thanks for the replies all. Does multiplay pretty much entail coop? each player controls their own brought in character in a shared campaign? My gf loves bg, but i havent played it but it could be fun to play through it with her.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#1288
Essentially yes. You have shared control over the party. You can bring in any number of self-made characters but IMO the NPCs in both games are great and you lose a lot of the character of the game if you pre-build your whole party.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#1289
The only way I've found multiplayer to be fun is playing it as if it were a tabletop experience. Four to six people, each controlling one character, making joint decisions and trying to roleplay.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 01 2013 20:19 GMT
#1290
On December 02 2013 01:38 Zidane wrote:
So are there any differences in the enhanced edition? Should i play bg1 first?

Enhanced Edition has built in Widescreen support, nicer graphics, a lot of bugs fixed, better character info windows, nicer looking UI, 4+1 new NPCs (BG1EE has 3+1) and additional content for those NPCs (they come with lot more voice over then original NPCs). It is also bundled with Throne of Bhaal and you get some more kits (subclasses) then original.

I would also recommend BG1EE.

You could also just play original game and install mods yourself to make it look nicer but that is not just click and install kind of process, so if you don't mind paying Enhanced Edition price buy that (BG1EE is on a sale on Steam right now) and get BG2EE in a future sale.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10852 Posts
December 03 2013 10:39 GMT
#1291
My BG2 more often than not stopped working or bugged out during some mods...
I would go with the EE.


Btw: Everytime i read the tread title i think "someone did good" :p
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2013 10:50 GMT
#1292
On December 03 2013 19:39 Velr wrote:
My BG2 more often than not stopped working or bugged out during some mods...
I would go with the EE.


Btw: Everytime i read the tread title i think "someone did good" :p

I've never had issues with mod packs, and I've done multiple playthroughs with different combinations of mods (though I still usually try to stick to the stock experience. Where did you DL your mods from? Depending on where you get them and how extreme you go with your modding, I can see them being somewhat troublesome.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 03 2013 11:09 GMT
#1293
On December 03 2013 19:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 19:39 Velr wrote:
My BG2 more often than not stopped working or bugged out during some mods...
I would go with the EE.


Btw: Everytime i read the tread title i think "someone did good" :p

I've never had issues with mod packs, and I've done multiple playthroughs with different combinations of mods (though I still usually try to stick to the stock experience. Where did you DL your mods from? Depending on where you get them and how extreme you go with your modding, I can see them being somewhat troublesome.


Well, since you never had any troubles with your mods, where did YOU get them from?

(I only played the BG series unmodded some 10+ years ago).
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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 17:53:12
December 03 2013 11:51 GMT
#1294
http://www.gibberlings3.net/
http://weidu.org/main.html

All you need for a BG2 run. The mods there are all stable. Never had problems with any of these. As a beginner the Fixpack and widescreen mod from gibberlings is basically enough to play through the game without missing out on anything.

I actually have the enhanced edition but I still prefer the original game with basic mods like tweakpack/fixpack. The only reason to play Enhanced when you already have the original game would be the new NPCs but I didn't really enjoy them that much.

Some other advanced mods can cause problems. I'd not recommend Big World Project to beginners (or anyone for that matter) for example. Not worth the trouble.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2013 17:42 GMT
#1295
AntiGrav1ty basically covered what I wanted to say.

Basically as long as you're sticking to mods that preserve the core experience, and aren't too ambitious (basic mod/fixpacks, widescreen mod, Tutu or Trilogy if you're playing BG1), you're very unlikely to run into problems.

Having played BGEE, I don't consider the enhanced content (extra zones/NPCs) to be worth the enhanced price tag. The best part about having the Enhanced Edition is that it's easier to play multiplayer.
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#1296
one thing that ill be missing with bg2 ee is the dungeon be gone! mod
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 03 2013 21:18 GMT
#1297
On December 03 2013 20:51 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
http://www.gibberlings3.net/
http://weidu.org/main.html

All you need for a BG2 run. The mods there are all stable. Never had problems with any of these. As a beginner the Fixpack and widescreen mod from gibberlings is basically enough to play through the game without missing out on anything.

I actually have the enhanced edition but I still prefer the original game with basic mods like tweakpack/fixpack. The only reason to play Enhanced when you already have the original game would be the new NPCs but I didn't really enjoy them that much.

Some other advanced mods can cause problems. I'd not recommend Big World Project to beginners (or anyone for that matter) for example. Not worth the trouble.

Hehe, my first experience with BG mods is BWP and it took me 3 days (or 3 afternoons) to make it work finally and that is only with recommended mods. After that experience I didn't need much talking into to buy BG1EE
BG2EE is currently overpriced in my opinion but BG1EE was worth it.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#1298
Does anyone remember that project where they used the Dragon Age Origins engine to try to-remake Baldur's Gate2? Whatever happened to that?
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
December 03 2013 22:55 GMT
#1299
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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
December 03 2013 22:56 GMT
#1300
On December 04 2013 02:56 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
one thing that ill be missing with bg2 ee is the dungeon be gone! mod


Oh YES! I forgot that. Huge reason why I play modded over Enhanced Edition :D
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